tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post4593169628162957703..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: Reb Menashe and the LubavitchersHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger120125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-36191351909951194892009-06-07T02:22:30.513-04:002009-06-07T02:22:30.513-04:00in regards to what was earlier mentioned, the Rebb...in regards to what was earlier mentioned, the Rebbe - chai vekayom,moshiach etc., muvon vegam poshut that the only direction to turn is to torah. da'as torah is all that is nogea to a yid. ubifrat the Rebbe's torah. asher lochain, benoigaiu to all these inyonim, it is paramount to know the sichos of the Rebbe which deal with these inyonim. so before anyone is to draw conclusions, they must know the sichos of 5751-2 etc.<br />after that, one is to know the hoiro'ois the Rebbe gives to bring moshiach, which are mainly discussed in the sivhos of 5751-2.<br /><br />ve'achsrei kichlos hakol, a chosid's maskono is clear:<br />1) the Rebbe is alive beguf gashmi. ay, gimmel tammuz, "ain lonu elo divrei ben amrom."<br />2)the Rebbe is moshiach.(ay, see 1)<br />3)the main way of preparing for moshiach is not by singing yechi all day etc. but rather, a) learning torah, ubifrat inyonei geulo umoshiach. b)mekayem torah umitzvos behidur in a way to be "mekabel pnei moshiach tzidkeinu".<br /><br />and all the other shtusim and shtick which goes on is klal uklala nit noigaiu.<br /><br /><br />moshaich now.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16854947022050009045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1587992300112256402009-05-19T14:05:00.000-04:002009-05-19T14:05:00.000-04:00Key
Why blaim the system? 'Eyn Haduvur Tuley Eleh...Key<br /><br />Why blaim the system? 'Eyn Haduvur Tuley Eleh By' comes to mind. You think that there is no room in the system for you to grow? The Sdom Beten element re: the top really affects you? That would mean that you sheygt ibbuhr all of those people you ridicle?<br /><br />(How about Chasidus, or the Litvishe 'machsuvuh' for some inspiration that talks to your heart)Maybe A Lubabnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-66930271035481494082009-05-18T23:34:00.000-04:002009-05-18T23:34:00.000-04:00Keep on going. Remind me why I'm not in yeshiva. I...Keep on going. Remind me why I'm not in yeshiva. It seems the best a place like lakewood can hope to create is chamoro shel pinchas ben yair and most of the time not even that.Shomer Shabbos Cownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-5887545979178889352009-05-18T23:19:00.000-04:002009-05-18T23:19:00.000-04:00Key
Don't look for terutzim, you have to be the b...Key<br /><br />Don't look for terutzim, you have to be the biggest and baddest and fattest key you can be.<br />Anyways, in Lakewood, the best guys are out of there before they hit forty with shtelers.Maybe a Lubabnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-39448167237014909662009-05-18T23:16:00.000-04:002009-05-18T23:16:00.000-04:00Keep on going. Remind me why I'm not in yeshiva. I...Keep on going. Remind me why I'm not in yeshiva. It seems the best a place that lakewood can hope to create is chamoro shel pinchas ben yair and most of the time not even that.Shomer Shabbos Cownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-80271304698304976802009-05-18T20:50:00.000-04:002009-05-18T20:50:00.000-04:00Dovy, besides for being a kind soul, you are eithe...Dovy, besides for being a kind soul, you are either ignorant or a maliciuos and conceted liar. There aren't dozens of world class talmedey chachomim in BS, if anything, the older and more accomplished TC are in Beis Eliyahu. <br />Beis Sholom is more against Aaron than the other batey midrashim? what are yous talking about? Beis Sholom isn't a social institution with membership, etc. A large percentage of them learn there for only one seder... <br />I remember hearing something about not knowing anything about Lakewood, was it you who said that?Maybe A Lubabnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-27234078202205206272009-05-18T20:28:00.000-04:002009-05-18T20:28:00.000-04:00Maybe a Lubab, besides for being an obnoxios jerk,...Maybe a Lubab, besides for being an obnoxios jerk, you obviously know nothing about Lakewood either. There happen to be hundreds of talmidei chachamim in Bais Sholom, with dozens who can rival the biggest in the world. THe ONLY problem in Lakewood is the corruption at the top.Bais Sholom is reviled by the K's because they know it is a bastion of anti-K (and anti GW) sentiment.dovynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-70579946257918368762009-05-18T00:58:00.000-04:002009-05-18T00:58:00.000-04:00"The reason Lakewood is very popular is because th..."The reason Lakewood is very popular is because there is no "force" involved:"<br /><br />Right. The alternave options are numerous<br /><br />"People are there because they want to be there"<br /><br />Right. It did not become the status quo and there is no sociatel pressure to attend Lakewood.<br /><br />"It's a big enough place that everybody finds his type of "chevreh"."<br /><br />Or, no one finds their chevra.<br /><br />"In essence it's a micrcosim of many other yeshivos, without some of the nastiness and partisanship."<br /><br />Right. There isn't uppity chaburos that are exlusive and hard to get into. There aren't two groups: the Briker/vort guys and 'others/outsiders' on the periphery<br /><br />"It's built around learning,"<br /><br />Ever been to the cofee room?<br /><br />"but again, you can learn the mesechta the yeshiva is learning or you can join one of the numerous chaburas learning different subjects at different speeds"<br /><br />Again, if someone is not learning the yeshivishe mesechtos before he finishes the cycle and then learns eyruvin or something similar-joins a halacha chabura- it is looked at by many as a 'cop out' who couldn't really make it kvetching on R' Buroch Ber's like the mitzuyanim and the geribene yeshivishe lamdonim.<br /><br />"Yes, if you are having a tough time and can't learn, nobody will "kick you out"."<br /><br />That's a good thing?<br /><br />"If you are chasidish and want to go home to the rebbes tisch, nobody will say boo."<br /><br />That's because they are not goyres the chasidim in the first place<br /><br />"On the other hand you are surounded by world class talmidei chachomim "<br /><br />Like who? How many world class talmidi chachomim are in the chaburah rooms or in Beis Shalom?Maybe A Lubabnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-79685954217440369622009-05-18T00:11:00.000-04:002009-05-18T00:11:00.000-04:00Gershon, It's very nice that you are not optimist,...Gershon, It's very nice that you are not optimist, but you are obviously not a realist and obviously don't live, learn or follow politics in Lakewooddovynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-36781757365531684732009-05-17T15:12:00.000-04:002009-05-17T15:12:00.000-04:00"Lakewood's demise has already begun,"
Why are pe..."Lakewood's demise has already begun,"<br /><br />Why are people delusional and plain wicked??<br /><br />Lakewood B"H is doing very well.<br />Al pi derech hateva it will continue doing will, again with Hashems help.The reason Lakewood is very popular is because there is no "force" involved:People are there because they want to be there.It's a big enough place that everybody finds his type of "chevreh".In essence it's a micrcosim of many other yeshivos, without some of the nastiness and partisanship.It's built around learning, but again, you can learn the mesechta the yeshiva is learning or you can join one of the numerous chaburas learning different subjects at different speeds.Yes, if you are having a tough time and can't learn, nobody will "kick you out".If you are chasidish and want to go home to the rebbes tisch, nobody will say boo.<br />On the other hand you are surounded by world class talmidei chachomim so you can ask and get answers for everything.<br />Etc., just the tip of the iceberg.<br />Five thosuand people did not just decide to get up one day and join BMG!GERSHONnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-84769185847422211942009-05-17T14:31:00.000-04:002009-05-17T14:31:00.000-04:00Proud
This are all soundbites from a fabrengen bu...Proud <br />This are all soundbites from a fabrengen but can these slogans be substanstiated with mareie mekomos and in accordabce with the Rambam since the Rebbe said multiple times that the Rambam is posek achron on the topic of moshiach and geula, ask your great list of buddiesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-11632656437543981502009-05-17T13:46:00.000-04:002009-05-17T13:46:00.000-04:00reading shturem I see exactly what proud is immita...reading shturem I see exactly what proud is immitating but he's still doing it to a degree that only about 1 in 20 commenters there do.<br /><br />As of his last post he seems to have fallen under the influence of the other "messianic Jews" the ones who don't have a leg to stand on halachically.Modeh B'Miktsasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-45865238287392029322009-05-17T10:17:00.000-04:002009-05-17T10:17:00.000-04:00Reb Hirshel,
I newver understood the whole idea of...Reb Hirshel,<br />I newver understood the whole idea of דור שביעי. When the צמח צדק set up different Rebbistves for his sons, did he really intend that because one was in the town of Lubavitch and one wasn't that the מהר"ש was the real המשך?<br />I would love to see you post on what non_Lubavitch Chabad is and how you as well as other Lubavitchers relate to it.Eli Dukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10733438132131254422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-80463506117491808172009-05-17T01:11:00.000-04:002009-05-17T01:11:00.000-04:00Telz did not die of natural causes, it was killed ...Telz did not die of natural causes, it was killed by the Rasha gamur ZG.<br />Torah Vadas' downfall also began because of machlokes as did Ponevezh's. Lakewood's demise has already begun, due solely to the corruption of the current brutal regime, especially King AK his brother and subordinate AMK and their mentor fatcat GW.dovynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-60397292216217936262009-05-16T07:26:00.000-04:002009-05-16T07:26:00.000-04:00http://bit.ly/15h4VAhttp://bit.ly/15h4VAIsaac Balbinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-43323713138808526172009-05-15T18:05:00.000-04:002009-05-15T18:05:00.000-04:00Hear are some pertinent CHAZALs to help clear up t...Hear are some pertinent CHAZALs to help clear up the confusion:<br /><br />CHAZAL: Dor Moshiach's neshamos are gilgulim of Dor Hamidbar.<br /><br />CHAZAL: Dor Acharon's Emuna (b'divrei moshe) will be tested as was Dor Rishon's fath<br /><br />CHAZAL: Geulas Moshiach will follow the same pattern as Geulas Mitzrayim.<br /><br />CHAZAL: Moshe Rabeinu proclaims the good news "pokod pokadety"<br /><br />CHAZAL: Moshe's words fall on deaf ears! Most of bnei yisroel don't believe moshe! Only a handful take his words literally!<br /><br />CHAZAL: Mosheh takes off, He disappears, Galus then gets even darker, more difficult...<br /><br />CHAZAL: Most jews disbelieved HIS words bc of the continued and increased darkness of Galus, and the apparent absence off moshe<br /><br />CHAZAL: Suddenly Moshe Returns, and leads the jews out of Galus,<br /><br />CHAZAL: NOW ALL jews believed!<br /><br />CHAZAL: the same pattern will unfold b'Dor Acharon, with the Revelation of Moshiach and the ultimate Geulah<br /><br />CHAZAL: (stage of NIGLA ) first moshiach is be revealed, but on a small scale. at that time he will proclaim "anovim higia zman geulaschem"<br /><br />CHAZAL: (stage NICHSA) Most jews will not believed HIS words or recognize him as THE REAL MOSHIACH bc of the continued and increased darkness of Galus, and the apparent absence off moshe,<br /><br />CHAZAL: bc of the darkness, this stage is also described as the time when, "yisbareru v'yislabnu" who truly has faith and who doesn't will be clarified and crystallized,<br /><br />CHAZAL: also in this final stage before the Complete Hisgalus, "Cherfu Ikvos M'Shichecho" the ones to resist and combat moshiach will be non other than BIG Rabbis Chasidim with long-white-beards,<br /><br />CHAZAL: (stage CHOZER VNISGALEH) Suddenly Moshiach Returns, and leads the jews out of Galus,<br /><br />CHAZAL: NOW ALL BELIEVE!<br /><br />FACT: the Rebbeh Proclaimed "anovim higia zman geulaschem"<br /><br />AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, SORY FOR CUTTING SHORT, BUT IT IS EREV SHABBOS AND I MUST GET THE CHULLENT GOING! TO BE CONTINUED BLN!<br /><br />in the mean time start a daily hachlata to learn and become BUKKY in this topic, after all the Rebbeh begged us to,<br />derech hayeshara... this will also help fulfill the Rebbe's campaign open your eyes!proud to be Lubavitch!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-89372015284020656832009-05-15T17:46:00.000-04:002009-05-15T17:46:00.000-04:00As far as I know Volpo, he definitely is working ...As far as I know Volpo, he definitely is working on a response for Rav Klien, Volpo loves a polemic even the Rebbe couldn"t stop him, eventough he rebuked him in front of close to 1000 people, but this mechutzef always found a new twist that deep deep the Rebbe wants it even stronger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-16725482010050960922009-05-15T17:42:00.000-04:002009-05-15T17:42:00.000-04:00Proud
Can u please stop sending everybody to the s...Proud<br />Can u please stop sending everybody to the sichos and start answering the questions Legufoi Shel Inyan? Its a long shabos find your self Reb sholom Charotonev etc.. and let them answer, stop screaming sichos sichos sichos, start looking in the sefer alreadyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-88080983448466339902009-05-15T17:41:00.000-04:002009-05-15T17:41:00.000-04:00to proud,
If you want to be proud start learning ...to proud,<br /><br />If you want to be proud start learning period, then you will realize that the Rebbe never said that his FIL is the LITERAL mashiach. Only am haratzim gmurim with little kool aid and a tip of misinformationcould have come up with such a new religion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-70975025967833889932009-05-15T16:36:00.000-04:002009-05-15T16:36:00.000-04:00I guess that spell-check doesn't work in capsI guess that spell-check doesn't work in capsFriendly Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-69504716007565813342009-05-15T15:32:00.000-04:002009-05-15T15:32:00.000-04:00TO ALL U ANTI-S
READING A SICHA HEAR AND A SICHA T...TO ALL U ANTI-S<br />READING A SICHA HEAR AND A SICHA THERE (HALEVAY U EVEN READ THE ENTIRE SICHA)<br />99.999999% OF YOUR QUESTION ARE BLATENTLY OUT OF IGNORANCE OF THE REBBE'S OWN WORDS!!!<br /><br />IF U TRULY WISH TO KNOW THE EMES FOR YOU SELF! (dont be scared! you can do what Manis Friedman does and keep it to yourself)<br />YOU NEED ONLY TO DO WHAT A CHOSSID DOES:<br />A) WHERE DOES A CHOSSID SEARCH FOR THE EMES (hint Sichos)<br />B) WHAT KIND OF CHOSSID DOESN'T BECOME "BUKKY" (FLUENT) IN THE REBBE'S SICHOS!<br />C) WHICH CHOSSID DOSENT FOLLOW THE REBBE'S REQUEST ("ha-derech hayeshara") TO OPEN YOUR EYES, BY LEARMING INYONEI GEULA U'MOSHIACH"<br /><br />AGAIN THE REBBEH HAD GOOD REASON TO BEG AND BEG US TO LEARN THIS TOP WELL! (torah sources are very useful when talking to ppl like RMK)Proud to be Lubavitchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-624254949864491012009-05-15T14:20:00.000-04:002009-05-15T14:20:00.000-04:00This fellow "proud to be lubavitch" is obviously a...This fellow "proud to be lubavitch" is obviously a satire<br />-----------------------------------<br />Go to any of the many Lubavitch sites such as ChabadOnLine,Shturem,Crownheights.info both in English and Hebrew and see that "proud to be Lubavitch" is par for the course, especially about this psak which was debated very passionately.Friendlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-45311594334684867362009-05-15T13:23:00.000-04:002009-05-15T13:23:00.000-04:00"This fellow "proud to be lubavitch" is obviously ..."This fellow "proud to be lubavitch" is obviously a satire."<br /><br />The Shpitz Meshichisten are caricatures of themselves. They ARE their own satire.<br /><br />I heard R. Shlomo Majeski speak on the Chai veKayam matter a few years back and he hedged his statements very heavily with "KeVayachol" and similar disclaimers. He presented an interesting pilpul and helped put the Chosid's post-Gimel-Tammuz attitude thing in perspective. Still, he was far from proffering any Halachic Chiddushim.CRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-19231472185576273972009-05-15T11:01:00.000-04:002009-05-15T11:01:00.000-04:00This fellow "proud to be lubavitch" is obviously a...This fellow "proud to be lubavitch" is obviously a satire. My guess is it's Burech come again. Tzig efsher an IP log?<br /><br />RE the current topic: Torah Vedaas(sic) did not go down the tubes because the chassidish side won in the beis medrash. It went down because of the mesivta and because they dropped Reb Shraga Feivels derech which made them unique. A short list including some of what he taught:<br />Tanya:<br />Moreh Nebuchim<br />R' Hirsch (both Chorev and al hatorah)<br />chovos halevavos<br />*gasp*tanach*gasp*<br />No bochur will learn these sfarim during seder if ever.Modeh B'Miktsasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-62444852189373631282009-05-14T23:10:00.000-04:002009-05-14T23:10:00.000-04:00when a mishichist asked him to proove that moshiac...<I>when a mishichist asked him to proove that moshiach cant be "min hameisim" he squirmed!!!!!</I>Are you sure he wasn't squirming at the sight of the yellow T-shirt with the Rebbe's face on it?Joe in Australianoreply@blogger.com