tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post5133386028407598841..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: Winner! - Peyos of the year decadeHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger82125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-33523228161540478742009-12-16T19:15:43.584-05:002009-12-16T19:15:43.584-05:00Tzig- nice link, but I guess I do know better than...Tzig- nice link, but I guess I do know better than google maps. Both the Hebrew and the English spelling is Pressvoiceoftruthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-58190844695830841862009-12-16T18:42:13.468-05:002009-12-16T18:42:13.468-05:00Anon
"nishtakach Toras Habesht"
maybe pr...Anon<br />"nishtakach Toras Habesht"<br />maybe pressburg/siget but not real chassidim<br /><br />Those people didn't produce the rashkibhags like SR and Tchebeiner RovAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-46968636946332797242009-12-16T17:26:28.188-05:002009-12-16T17:26:28.188-05:00Anon
"nishtakach Toras Habesht"
maybe pr...Anon<br />"nishtakach Toras Habesht"<br />maybe pressburg/siget but not real chassidimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-88248769574422020482009-12-16T11:41:22.079-05:002009-12-16T11:41:22.079-05:00anon 857 am
remember kol haposel .......
shame on...anon 857 am<br />remember kol haposel .......<br /><br />shame on you for being mitzi laz on yiddisher kinder for being bnei nida!<br /><br />were you conceived on nittel?....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-51581286878283894632009-12-16T08:57:08.554-05:002009-12-16T08:57:08.554-05:00Not only do you, and you know who I mean, have all...Not only do you, and you know who I mean, have all the simanin of mamzyerus, you are also and oz punim- there wasn't even a mikvah in your parents' shtut. Maybe they were on shliychus in Outer Mongolia where they don't have a mkivah-at least not a true kosher one. that's why the kat is disenfranchised by the true Jews, they are all children of pusseleh mikvasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-18234210023405160962009-12-16T08:43:52.710-05:002009-12-16T08:43:52.710-05:00"dont try to portray a image that Rabisteve c..."dont try to portray a image that Rabisteve cant go together with Torah Immersion"<br /><br />genug shoyn mit di narishkeiten. Let's talk 20th Century and on. After it was nishtakach Toras Habesht, the Snags ran the rashkebehag department.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-30691895362763713042009-12-16T08:41:24.454-05:002009-12-16T08:41:24.454-05:00"I am not talking about Brisk they will never..."I am not talking about Brisk they will never quote him their insulated arrogance is mindboggling"<br /><br />You personify why it is dangerous for kat members to learn nigleh. You guys learn likanter, which is much worse than the Snag-shelo-lishmuh. Your plecentah should have been turned against you and straddled you and prevented you from comming to this world. You take Torah and u use it for "heypech" hatov, against its tachlis. Fech.<br /><br />HT, Brisk is on Press, btwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-21766003606238804202009-12-16T03:15:09.814-05:002009-12-16T03:15:09.814-05:00Anon,
Are you one or many?
Whatever the case you a...Anon,<br />Are you one or many?<br />Whatever the case you are quite nasty.Is that to cover up on your poor knowledge of "history"?<br />Next thing I know you''ll be be bringing proof from Chabdsker seforim that The Ramba"m the big Rationalist was a Mekubal.You think Kovetz Bais Aharon Veyisroel would allow a piece claiming that the Halo'o was no chosid,eh?<br /> Soon you"ll be screaming "chay vekayom" about the fake Cherson Genizah.<br /><br /><br />הער אויף צו זיין אזא תמימות"דיגע יאלד!<br /><br />הק" באמת יונההק" באמת. יונהnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-62850697393313839682009-12-16T00:11:35.703-05:002009-12-16T00:11:35.703-05:00Yoineh
"express my doubts to how Chasidic R&#...Yoineh<br />"express my doubts to how Chasidic R'Pinchas Halevy Horowitz baal Haflo'oh"<br />Are you sure that you befrieded Liener? the more you write the less I believe you.<br />The subject of the Hafloah was lenghtly disscussed in the Kovetz Beis Aron Vyisroel years ago,and in many other places. Nobody is forcing you to believe chassidic conspiracies, you can stick to the Aliyas Eliuye, and to Making of a Godal(banned by whom? chasidim? misnagdim? ) etc... to get the unvarnished truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-12030770849216939142009-12-16T00:01:58.840-05:002009-12-16T00:01:58.840-05:00Yoineh
"that he was immersed in learning and ...Yoineh<br />"that he was immersed in learning and was not interested in"<br />Since you are a newcomer in the field, I will teach that in his Doir Deiah there were many Rebbes that were immersed in torah as much as the Minchas Chinuch and still were big manhigim of Chassidus as the Sanzer Rov Chidushei Horim,Imrie Noam and the Tzemach Tzedek, dont try to portray a image that Rabisteve cant go together with Torah ImmersionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-30743408599642105322009-12-15T23:53:44.766-05:002009-12-15T23:53:44.766-05:00Yoineh
"the ones who "banned seforim&quo...Yoineh<br />"the ones who "banned seforim" are usually the chasidim.Kyodua"<br />Since you are a amatuer I will teach you, that the first seforim that were banned was the Tzevoat Rivash and the Toldos Yakov Yossef the first chassidic seforim.<br />Chassidim never banned seforim, they disliked some seforim but never put a fatwa on nobody.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-62266969292063603872009-12-15T23:52:22.199-05:002009-12-15T23:52:22.199-05:00voice of truth
check out this link
maybe you kno...voice of truth<br /><br /><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=&vps=2&jsv=195b&sll=31.786807,35.219486&sspn=0.004742,0.009624&ie=UTF8&geocode=FeIG5QEdI2IZAg&split=0" rel="nofollow">check out this link</a><br /><br />maybe you know better than google maps....Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-25021840116375900012009-12-15T23:18:23.591-05:002009-12-15T23:18:23.591-05:00voice of truth
I'll check the street name aga...voice of truth<br /><br />I'll check the street name again<br /><br />as far as the Rogatchover goes; I've said it once and I'll say it again. Comparing ROD to the Rogatchover is asinine, ludicrous and worse. The RG shaved not his beard, nor his hair, nor his moustache. ROD has a very nice haircut, and his <em>vontzes</em> are nice and even.<br /><br /><em>Farshtantoo?</em>Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-31910795183417848432009-12-15T23:10:04.592-05:002009-12-15T23:10:04.592-05:00Ummm.. Tzig, it actually is on Rechov Press.
And w...Ummm.. Tzig, it actually is on Rechov Press.<br />And while you keep adding in your pithy comments about how you don't get a chance to to rebut and all that, why don't you just write a real response? Methinks you have been caught speechless and guilty as charged. Be a man and own up that you messed up on this one. Do you really want someone to drag out a picture of the Rogatchover Gaon and start comparing the length, width, and depth of their Payos? Without even looking I can tell you who wins (or is it loses?).voiceoftruthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-38238696309977435472009-12-15T21:32:14.644-05:002009-12-15T21:32:14.644-05:00"I am not talking about Brisk they will never..."I am not talking about Brisk they will never quote him their insulated arrogance is mindboggling"<br /><br />u r a Chabadtzker who knows nothing about the world around him - that his mashpiyah never told him. You have no clue what seforim they do and do not learn in Brisk. u chabadtzker youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-15828014391252562622009-12-15T21:27:58.169-05:002009-12-15T21:27:58.169-05:00"I never said i am an einikel but for "
..."I never said i am an einikel but for "<br /><br />Sorry,I misunderstood your being named after him.<br /><br />Quoting from the Shaar Hatefilo means he was of the belief "of kabbel es hoemes mmi sheomro" Actually, the ones who "banned seforim" are usually the chasidim.Kyodua, that a certain group does not learn sifrei haGoan ad hayom.<br />I did not say he was a Misnaged,I said that there is no proof that he was a chosid and he surely did not come from that backround.It seems that he was immersed in learning and was not interested in the Chasidim/Misnagdim debate.<br /><br />While we are at it I may as well express my doubts to how Chasidic R'Pinchas Halevy Horowitz baal Haflo'oh was.I don't buy the conspiracy theory that his son, The Mateh Levy totally not Chasidic(interesting,no?)left out the chashishe vertlach from his sefer Ponim Yofos.yoinehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-17631870760716935882009-12-15T17:23:14.001-05:002009-12-15T17:23:14.001-05:00I never said i am an einikel but for all your rant...I never said i am an einikel but for all your ranting about the 'need' of chasidim. I don't carry water for chasidim. <br /><br />I did not bring the not mentioning of the Gaon as proof of anything but it is interesting in itself. It for sure does not imply that it had anything to do with the controversy over chasidus. <br /><br />Punkt Farkert, chasidim have no agenda to to make Reb Shlomo Kluger, Reb Yosef Shaul, or the Bais Efpraim into chasidim. I have never heard a claim that the Chasam Sofer was.. its all rediculous. (even though he cites the Tanya in Parsha Behaloscha) <br /><br />You not appreciating the citation of שער התפלה just reveals something about you more than anything. <br /><br />Yosef Perl of Tarnepol did not embitter the M"Cs life because he was a 'lamdan' for sure <br /><br />Yosef 718Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-17315973031326053932009-12-15T17:12:56.854-05:002009-12-15T17:12:56.854-05:00Yoineh,
You are not getting what people are explai...Yoineh,<br />You are not getting what people are explaining, I am skeptic on how Liener(if he was that great) could talk to a imbecile like you,Yosef said he was no misnaged and a little admirer too, period.<br />He was a BIL of A Rebbe, a SIL of A Rebbe and a father of a Rebbe, he Quotes chassidic seforim and Gave Haskomas for Chassidic seforim, if you still call it anti Chassidic, then you are stubborn idiot.<br /><br />Btw, I think that Lieners Grandfather wrote a kuntres regarding the Rambams kabalistic notions, so get off your cliff with Chabad, it was a view held by many Rishonim and AchronimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-86659807416894333812009-12-15T16:44:50.293-05:002009-12-15T16:44:50.293-05:00Yosef718
I want to add something.
You know you wer...Yosef718<br />I want to add something.<br />You know you were close to R'Yankel Leiner z'l as you wrote here once upon a time.I knew him quite well and I can tell you that one of the things I liked about him besides his open mind and wide yedios was a very honest unbiased approach.He was hungry for knowledge not hungry to pull this guy into his camp, that guy into his camp etc.<br />Unfortunately his untimely passing has left us with a void of honest,open minded talmidei chachomim shyeish bohem daas.yoinehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-58991277674256550862009-12-15T16:16:09.840-05:002009-12-15T16:16:09.840-05:00Yosef 718
Being that we are many generations off f...Yosef 718<br />Being that we are many generations off from the Minchas Chinuch your being an eynikel proves nothing about your yedios of him.Ve'aderaba.Most of the Ba'abads are Chasidish since that part of Poland became chasidish so they would have an inyan to claim that he also was chasidish.Just like the Chbdsker claim the Rambam was a mekubel, although he is the father of the Rationalists.<br />Your "chap" that he may not mention the Gaon of Vilna is quite unusual of you, you know.Because ,usually not quoting the Gaon is more of a proof on the non quoter.However, what would probably be the answer was that the Gaons seforim were not printed when he wrote THE Minchas Chinuch.Derech agav, I don't think he quotes R'Akiva Eiger directly,maybe he quotes him from someone else who quotes him and the reason being is that R'Akiva Eigers seforim were not printed at the time.The need of chasidim to "prove" the Minchas Chinuch's chasidism is perhaps the biggest proof that he was not.Do they try and prove other chasidim to be chasidim?No.Why? Because it is not even a question.With the Minchas Chinuch it is quite a question.<br />So,to be honest I don't care if he was chasidic or whatever, his sefer is probably the most beloved of all in the last two hundred yearsyoinehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-28604113924217487012009-12-15T14:53:04.920-05:002009-12-15T14:53:04.920-05:00Anon 3.09
"Reb Chaim doesn't quote them, ...Anon 3.09<br />"Reb Chaim doesn't quote them, u igno-ramus (which rhymes with..)"<br /><br />Chasam sofer, is in Hilchos Ishes 2-15<br /><br />Minchas Chinuch, is in Shemita Veyovel 9-6<br /><br />From your vast knowledge I have a feeling you learn in Brisk, can you please give us a update of Rav AJ chumas shiurim,who is in ? who is out?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-72358032697519147572009-12-15T14:47:28.710-05:002009-12-15T14:47:28.710-05:00Where is it in the sefer?
On whom side is he on th...Where is it in the sefer?<br />On whom side is he on that polemic?<br />You probably know that even Reb Zorech Eidiletz was not on the same page on this with the Prager Rov, so it not the strong proof that can change mindsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-55778085219613988142009-12-15T14:40:02.628-05:002009-12-15T14:40:02.628-05:00anon
שער התפלה is not proof??
Yosef 718anon<br /><br />שער התפלה is not proof??<br /><br />Yosef 718Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-80366389813192646902009-12-15T14:22:36.892-05:002009-12-15T14:22:36.892-05:00Yoineh
"The Rambam was a mekubel etc..."...Yoineh<br />"The Rambam was a mekubel etc..."<br />my friend this is no chassidic fabrication, it was discussed by many Rishonim as the Migdal Oiz, <br />get your facts together before you bark, don't embarrass the Snag universe, they claim to be the "Benai Torah"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-24631563830445802692009-12-15T14:01:18.940-05:002009-12-15T14:01:18.940-05:00Reb Yosef
Quoting a Sefer in Nigleh from a chosid ...Reb Yosef<br />Quoting a Sefer in Nigleh from a chosid is no proof that you are a chosid,the "דרך פקודיך" is quoted once in the Mishna Berura too, the only real sefer that gives you proof is the "נועם מגדים " <br />Reb Yosef Engel wrote a sefer on Kabola that was printed by Rav Heller of CH from a Kesav Yad.it is not too famous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com