tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post5233128571915405494..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: Das Judische Sturmer ........ ראו מה בין בןHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger83125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-20645884313397667562008-12-11T21:00:00.000-05:002008-12-11T21:00:00.000-05:00ANONChabad is raising millions of dollarsone 31 ye...ANON<BR/><BR/>Chabad is raising millions of dollars<BR/>one 31 year old guy gave half a million to Chabad Fort lauderdale , b/c MumbaiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-44440686915604128952008-12-11T20:52:00.000-05:002008-12-11T20:52:00.000-05:00http://www.vosizneias.com/24119/2008/12/11/new-yor...http://www.vosizneias.com/24119/2008/12/11/new-york-satmar-rabbi-a-chabad-house-is-a-mukam-kadush-holy-place/<BR/><BR/><BR/>this is the official Satmar view about Lub 5769Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-39051436818764122522008-12-11T17:04:00.000-05:002008-12-11T17:04:00.000-05:00psssssshhhhhאפענע נבואה פון די זלמוניםpsssssshhhhh<BR/>אפענע נבואה פון די זלמוניםHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-45330381700746950082008-12-11T16:56:00.000-05:002008-12-11T16:56:00.000-05:00"the question remains why at this sensitive time d..."the question remains why at this sensitive time did DY find it necessary to bring this up?"<BR/><BR/>Here is why:<BR/><BR/>(Open quote)<BR/>NEW YORK (JTA) -- Chabad-Lubavitch leaders are working overtime to transform the Mumbai attacks into an unparalleled opportunity for spreading the movement's message.<BR/><BR/>Chabad has received unprecedented media exposure since terrorists struck its center in Mumbai, killing two of its emissaries to the Indian city -- Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg and his wife, Rivkah -- along with four other Jews.<BR/><BR/>To capitalize on the wave of attention, the movement has conducted an orchestrated marketing and public relations campaign. Chabad officials in New York and emissaries around the world are conducting media interviews, and constituents who have been touched by the movement are reaching out in droves to local and international publications to extol its praises.<BR/>(Close quote)<BR/><BR/>As you see, this is a report by JTA. In Satmar and in its related communities, such "unparalleled opportunity for spreading the movement's message" has an echo, too.<BR/><BR/>The editoriel sought to counter that, within Satmar.<BR/><BR/>Rabbi Aron made his statement after DY published its editorial, and I will leave it for others to judge why he chose to make then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-27743299419097442272008-12-11T14:57:00.000-05:002008-12-11T14:57:00.000-05:00I did.good to hear.I did.<BR/><BR/>good to hear.Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-61017619331819573282008-12-11T14:56:00.000-05:002008-12-11T14:56:00.000-05:00Did you see the statements of RA of Kiryat Yoel la...Did you see the statements of RA of Kiryat Yoel last motzei Shabbos that every chabad house is a mokom kodoshAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-55569078340442135102008-12-11T02:13:00.000-05:002008-12-11T02:13:00.000-05:00while Hershel misunderstood the jab in the editori...while Hershel misunderstood the jab in the editorial, he rightly noticed it as such.<BR/>the reference was indeed as UD pointed out; that the Botei Chabad were not created to provide for Frum travelers (which would be acceptable to Der Yid) but to reach out to Frai Yidden (Reshoim, Kofrim, etc.)(which Satmar has a longstanding issue with)<BR/><BR/>the question remains why at this sensitive time did DY find it necessary to bring this up?<BR/>couldn't they just stick to their attack on the insensitive government? was it necessary THIS WEEK to bring up the "don't think that opening a Bais Chabad in the first place is acceptable, it's really Traife Kiruv" line?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-37663771306828693302008-12-08T00:19:00.000-05:002008-12-08T00:19:00.000-05:00HirshelIts about time you close this Eshkol, they ...Hirshel<BR/>Its about time you close this Eshkol, they are threading water.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-64721470733219204352008-12-07T20:40:00.000-05:002008-12-07T20:40:00.000-05:00Tzig:You brought all these subjects, starting with...Tzig:<BR/><BR/>You brought all these subjects, starting with the טענה against the "unsigned" editirial which you misquoted, and ending with R' SD.<BR/><BR/>SD wrote under a pseudonym or not? He did both, and it is absolutely irrelevant. Neither is my age and a number of other side issues you tucked in. At one point you even declared me illiterate in Yiddish.<BR/><BR/>What else before we are done?<BR/><BR/>What will it take for you to learn, that your opinion is not necessarily conclusive?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-41928535364229634852008-12-07T20:00:00.000-05:002008-12-07T20:00:00.000-05:00the point is we're not discussing the editorial in...the point is we're not discussing the editorial in Der Yid this week, we're on to whether or not SD wrote under a pseudonym or not.<BR/><BR/>You don't think that's diversionary?<BR/><BR/>And I'm not doing it in the name of Ahavas Yisroel, I'm doing it to show that with some people it's business as usual. Unfortunately.Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-8804908405578054522008-12-07T19:55:00.000-05:002008-12-07T19:55:00.000-05:00"smart diversion tactic"?Reb Sender wrote both, th..."smart diversion tactic"?<BR/><BR/>Reb Sender wrote both, the op-ed piece under the Epstein pseudoynym and the editorial unsigned, always! No news in here except that you dreamed it to different.<BR/><BR/>Mudslinging, for sure. Lookup all the hate you produced on this page, without a single proof of your accusations.<BR/><BR/>All in the name of אהבת ישראל...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-23421310269781377122008-12-07T17:10:00.000-05:002008-12-07T17:10:00.000-05:00very clever of you. You supposedly shlogged up the...very clever of you. You supposedly <EM>shlogged up</EM> the fact that it was a vicious editorial by "proving" that Sender Deitsch - who wrote a weekly op-ed under a pseudonym - didn't write the "editorial." I'll need to check that up again. What does that have to do with this week's mudslinging?!<BR/><BR/>But I commend you for the smart diversion tactic.Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-24479320392119658422008-12-07T17:03:00.000-05:002008-12-07T17:03:00.000-05:00Sorry, you are out of the woods.I knew Reb Sender ...Sorry, you are out of the woods.<BR/><BR/>I knew Reb Sender and spent quality time with him before you were born.<BR/><BR/>Never Ever was an editorial signed at Der Yid. Eliezer Epstein (Reb Sender) wrote an op-ed piece next to the editorial, which he wrote too.<BR/><BR/>Have you melted into you fabrication?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-6807508834901244292008-12-07T16:42:00.000-05:002008-12-07T16:42:00.000-05:00Reb Yidthe fact that you're 14 years old and don't...Reb Yid<BR/><BR/>the fact that you're 14 years old and don't remember better is not my fault. Ask your elders who Eliezer Epstein was in Der Yid for years...Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-74557413122287909722008-12-07T16:24:00.000-05:002008-12-07T16:24:00.000-05:00No editorial was ever signed in Der Yid.It is just...No editorial was ever signed in Der Yid.<BR/><BR/>It is just one of the stories you made up and refuse to withdraw. The other are in your preceding comments regarding the DY editorial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-30486735138280357322008-12-07T15:46:00.000-05:002008-12-07T15:46:00.000-05:00Ruvy discovered America!1) the old editorial in De...Ruvy discovered America!<BR/><BR/>1) the old editorial in Der Yid was signed, albeit by a pseudonym<BR/><BR/>2) since when is DY like the NYT?Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-46803918763827785972008-12-07T15:41:00.000-05:002008-12-07T15:41:00.000-05:00Heyjust checked the NY Times op-ed pages.The actua...Hey<BR/>just checked the NY Times op-ed pages.The actual editorial is not signed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-60451665045790551102008-12-07T14:18:00.000-05:002008-12-07T14:18:00.000-05:00Tzig:"prove me wrong first, then we talk apology."...Tzig:<BR/><BR/>"prove me wrong first, then we talk apology."<BR/><BR/>Do I have to prove you wrong? Prove yourself right! You have not been able to show where you have found in that editorial your (mis)statements. You are plainly fabricating stories!<BR/><BR/>"Tell the readers who writes the editorial, and despite the fact that it's published in a newspaper is too chicken to put his name on it"<BR/><BR/>Don't you know that editorials go unsigned? When did Reb Sender Deutsch Z"L ever sign an editorial? When did you see a signed editorial in ANY PAPER? Such senseless arguments on your part are just more proof of your inability to produce something real and provable.<BR/><BR/>I just hope that in your other life, as an accountant, you are more accurate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-24492798797311308932008-12-07T12:27:00.000-05:002008-12-07T12:27:00.000-05:00This editorial also has a tone to minimize the k...This editorial also has a tone to minimize the kedoshims zechus since it all happened because of the Zionist,so I am perplexed about the kedoshim of the Holocaust, are they full fleged kedoshim ?since according to the preface of the Vayoel Moshe it all happened because of the ZionistsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-4704614922410993562008-12-07T12:08:00.000-05:002008-12-07T12:08:00.000-05:00Hirshel has no problem with these Idiots in Der Yi...Hirshel has no problem with these Idiots in Der Yid, They should go on and on with their trademark philosophy of Sinas Yisroel on every Jew that walks, from Kipa Seruga Chabad Stienman Belz Viznitz (the whole aleph beis) and their own brother,But it seemed they had some hirhur teshuva on a day that Benie Kal Chai were killed on Kidush Hashem,But we reliazed that "Aririm Reshoim Shein Tovosom Shliema"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-10992403994319902182008-12-07T11:54:00.000-05:002008-12-07T11:54:00.000-05:00apologize for what?prove me wrong first, then we t...apologize for what?<BR/><BR/>prove me wrong first, then we talk apology.<BR/><BR/>Tell the readers who writes the editorial, and despite the fact that it's published in a newspaper is too chicken to put his name on it. At least Sender Deutsch made up a phony name!Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-5408301572033806552008-12-07T11:02:00.000-05:002008-12-07T11:02:00.000-05:00TzigYou can jump like a real tzig or קאָזע, but yo...Tzig<BR/><BR/>You can jump like a real tzig or קאָזע, but you have not been able to show us where you have picked up your coded reading ("the true praise hidden in their holy words") into that piece. Neither have you been able to substantiate your אהבת ישראל (the hate you are spreading) on your baseless assumptions.<BR/><BR/>Why don't you simply applogize, and let yourשונאים פּלאַצן on a better founded and more substantiated story?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-26231617276458209582008-12-07T10:03:00.000-05:002008-12-07T10:03:00.000-05:00righhhhhtso since the editorial writer (tell those...righhhhht<BR/><BR/>so since the editorial writer (tell those who don't know who he is...) and the TAY Rebbe are related.... (like the 2 Teitelbaum brothers, right? ) therefore it MUST be a positive editorial!<BR/><BR/>I find it interesting that no other publication had to write their editorial in code so that only true geniuses like UD and others can understand the true praise hidden in their holy words....Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-20014632279623204942008-12-07T07:33:00.000-05:002008-12-07T07:33:00.000-05:00I have just picked up the motto fo this blog (at t...I have just picked up the motto fo this blog (at the very end of the page):<BR/><BR/>"אלע שונאים זאלען פלאצען"...<BR/><BR/>This, I assume, is what the current didcussion is all about.<BR/><BR/>About the "documentation" that the editorial alludes to: Does every בית חב"ד have a ליקוטי שיחות? Does every בית חב"ד have literature about the Lubavitch מבצעים?<BR/><BR/>Furthermore: בתי חב"ד are created and maintained not to draw the ultra hassidic crowd such as הקדוש רבי לייבוש הי"ד, as they would in any circumstances stick to the ultimate in שמירת התורה והמצוות even in places like mumbay. בתי חב"ד are intended for another crowd and ALSO accomodate guest such as רבי לייבוש טייטלבוים זצ"ל.<BR/><BR/>We are not going to be drawn into a debate about the reasons or the merit of opposition to the above, but it is no secret that satmat בכלל and Der Yid בפרט have been opposed to both and much more of Lubavitch, including מבצע אהבת ישראל as implemented by Lubavitch.<BR/><BR/>What was wrong in pointing this out, דווקא now when people like tzig seek to sow confusion under the guise of אחדות?<BR/><BR/>Above all, what indeed did tzig want us, Yiddish readers, to read into the editorial?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-627813170402348702008-12-07T04:43:00.000-05:002008-12-07T04:43:00.000-05:00UD:The writer of the Der Yid editorial and Reb Lei...UD:<BR/><BR/>The writer of the Der Yid editorial and Reb Leibush hy"d were related by marriage (anyone familiar with the family of Toldos Aharon/Toldos Avruhom Yitzchok will attest to that). I am related to both. I have been asked by the writer to convey to you his profound thanks for the PROPER translation of his words.<BR/><BR/>Hirschl opened this discussion with a misguided intent and a purposeful wrong interpretation, and resolved to stick to it no matter what. When asked for specifics and a pointer to the alleged quotes, he either directed us to a dictionary (just an English dictionary, not even a Yiddish-English one) or decreed that anyone reading reading into the editorial something other than his twisted interpretation just dosn't read Yiddish.<BR/><BR/>Hirschl, we read אידיש as well as you, and we have also noted your statements on the subject in other forums. Combined, they say something about your אהבת ישראל in these difficult times.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Thanks again UD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com