tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post5629191450199412947..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: "חסידים אין אמעריקא"Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger128125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-10578437921252657042011-06-20T12:32:31.675-04:002011-06-20T12:32:31.675-04:00Gorogover
"Are Lubavitchers so beyond reproac...Gorogover<br />"Are Lubavitchers so beyond reproach that any criticism requires management"<br />is that what you call rational criticism?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-62189326102528344752011-06-20T12:25:16.249-04:002011-06-20T12:25:16.249-04:00Yawn. Many people pass through the line as a joke....Yawn. Many people pass through the line as a joke. I happen to have kos shel bracha myself from before gimmel tammuz and I give plenty of it out for kiddush Shabbos morning in shul.<br /><br />Could be that some people think the wine being given out is also prepared from authentic kos shel brocho so they put up with the nonsense to get what they want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-77066128705446405612011-06-20T12:21:35.414-04:002011-06-20T12:21:35.414-04:00Bere was dyslexic? Why did he steal sforim if he c...Bere was dyslexic? Why did he steal sforim if he could not read them LOL. Do you mean dysfunctional?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-75075437535910172782011-06-20T12:21:28.292-04:002011-06-20T12:21:28.292-04:00Thank you for calling me a "bowl of vomit.&qu...Thank you for calling me a "bowl of vomit." That's completely appropriate for my comment about a "kneitch"on a hat? Are Lubavitchers so beyond reproach that any criticism requires management with Zoloft and Prozac?By the way last acharon shel Pesach hundreds passed for imaginary kos shel bracha. There is a You Tube video to prove it.Anyone can watch it,even a so called Lubavitcher.The real hate is that which is saved for the Rashag,Bere,Reb Chaim Lieberman,Reb.Chana G. and anyone else who questioned the authority of dor shevii.I argue on facts and you call me a "bowl of vomit." I rest my case.G.R.Gabbainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-32059621747175295052011-06-20T12:20:17.611-04:002011-06-20T12:20:17.611-04:00Anon
"the Malach was Shamash in the Beis Knes...Anon<br />"the Malach was Shamash in the Beis Kneses Ari in the Bronx and someone discovered him"<br />it is not true, the Malach was the Rav in that shul I know some people that used to daven by him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-44693123231684606572011-06-20T12:19:38.507-04:002011-06-20T12:19:38.507-04:00I think the Tzig does do a service here. When you ...I think the Tzig does do a service here. When you see the haters come out of the woodwork, whether with pseudo-history, rambling hatred or just plain old sinas chinam, it can only reinforce your confidence that Chabad is on the right track and the haters are as passe as 8-track.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-29949855327846912712011-06-20T12:15:01.574-04:002011-06-20T12:15:01.574-04:00Hirshel
This idiot thinks now that since nobody in...Hirshel<br />This idiot thinks now that since nobody in Chabad is smart enough to explain the difference between the Rebbe and the dislexic Bere, then he won on the PR war, and he sees fault in Chabad educational system. Let him check in by some doctor and get off your blog.<br />You are extremely naive to think that this venom has to go on your blog.<br />For gods sake just delete them....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-38713025242453395942011-06-20T12:09:39.624-04:002011-06-20T12:09:39.624-04:00Grogover gabai,
"Messichism is the direct res...Grogover gabai,<br />"Messichism is the direct result of events and conditions that existed before gimmel Tamuz.Were the Guraries running Lubavitch then? The moshiach frenzy that overtook Lubavitch was the the fault of the Rashag and Bere Gurarie?"<br />the Rebbe does not have to apologize for talking , crying, nudging on Moshiach,. It is a yesoid of emunah and the apologies has to come from gedolim that did not emphasize on it. 16 years have passed since Gimmel Tamuz, and all you have is, Kraus from Argentina and some idiots from Australia. Imagine crying on all orthodoxy because a Rav a menuval like Lieb Troper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-31325575076264149902011-06-20T11:58:52.476-04:002011-06-20T11:58:52.476-04:00Glogover Gabai
"They get kos shel brochoh fro...Glogover Gabai<br />"They get kos shel brochoh from a red upholstered chair and give aliyes and kibudim to someone who is in olem haemes. They have taken over the main beis medrash and openly spout their combination of me"<br />I don't see no difference in the level of Meshugaz, between saying Lechaim to a empty chair in 770, then saying lechaim to a spiritual death person on 48th st in BP?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-60594295585831702011-06-20T11:56:20.128-04:002011-06-20T11:56:20.128-04:00I guess I thought that somehow him getting his hat...I guess I thought that somehow him getting his hateful thoughts off his chest and you responding to him would help Chabad. But I see now that it will do no good.Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-52586130586733967252011-06-20T11:54:50.974-04:002011-06-20T11:54:50.974-04:00Glogover Gabai
".And maybe,just maybe,there&#...Glogover Gabai<br />".And maybe,just maybe,there'd be an educational system in place where people could actually learn enough mentchiskeit to conduct a normal conversation without resorting to viscious,personal insults.But then again what would we do without an army of 15 year olds in untucked Arrow shirts[no tails,please]and super-sized Borsalinos with those tell-tale kneitches in all"the right places?"I don't know about you but I'd be pretty darn depressed."<br />you realy thing that a Lubacvicher has to answer you with respect.Just because you dont go for that Kniech?<br />is their some Rational in your words, I don't see a reason why a guy like Hirshel the Baal Hablog, puts up with a such a bowl of vomit. He still thinks he does a service for chabad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-29652747957563133502011-06-20T11:52:28.606-04:002011-06-20T11:52:28.606-04:00What's more, even the nuts and the relatively ...What's more, even the nuts and the relatively small amount of damage they cause compared to the damage caused by a Spitzer or a Kolko is a tribute to the open-tent policy of Chabad.<br /><br />Those like myself who can't take what's going on in 770 have enough to do and enough places to go that we don't bemoan the circus there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-48393967450628437162011-06-20T11:39:34.373-04:002011-06-20T11:39:34.373-04:0020-70 nuts a week get the kos shel brocho or dolla...20-70 nuts a week get the kos shel brocho or dollars for real. A few go to enjoy some fun. Many is the enterprising fellow who has wanted to go through the line 100 times to bankrupt the nutters, but that is a good way of risking real trouble.<br /><br />The Gurarys would have made all of Chabad irrelevant and a historical footnote. Instead you have a huge successful movement that breathes life back into Judaism in places where it died decades ago - and these somewhat interesting Na Nach types with the flags who can't last more than a generation anyway.<br /><br />What's more, with the way Chabad spread throughout the world, that beis medrash is almost irrelevant except as a symbol. I haven't been there in years and I have no reason to go.<br /><br />The sons of the old Russians are the ones who were mekarev many of the first BT's. Now it is their grandsons who are at the forefront of shlichus. <br /><br />Take some Prozac or Zoloft if you can't control your hatred and jealousy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-71838600542367256462011-06-20T10:32:53.996-04:002011-06-20T10:32:53.996-04:00Anon.3:06 At least 50% and perhaps a whole lot mor...Anon.3:06 At least 50% and perhaps a whole lot more of chasidei chabad are vilde meshichistn. They get kos shel brochoh from a red upholstered chair and give aliyes and kibudim to someone who is in olem haemes. They have taken over the main beis medrash and openly spout their combination of mental illness and kefirah to the whole world through a wide array of publications and web sites. This is something that is unheard of in any other Chassidus or yeshivishe group.While you can be proud of some things that have been accomplished under the name of Habad,this Meshichist insanity is without prescedent in the Jewish world in the past 300 years. Who laid the groundwork for this? The Rashag and his son Bere?Messichism is the direct result of events and conditions that existed before gimmel Tamuz.Were the Guraries running Lubavitch then? The moshiach frenzy that overtook Lubavitch was the the fault of the Rashag and Bere Gurarie?I am writing very diplomatically mipnei kevod achsanyeh.You figure the rest out yourself and reach your own conclusions.If you want credit for 3000 Habad houses all over the world then you have to take the blame for the same ideaology that also created the monster that is called Meshichism.And please don't tell me what the ziknei haHassidim thought about the Bts.Save that discussion for a BT who doesn't know any better.Grogover Rebbe's Gabbainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-92149060317898585832011-06-20T10:29:57.917-04:002011-06-20T10:29:57.917-04:00And better the problems Lubavitch has than those o...And better the problems Lubavitch has than those of Skvere, Satmar or the Litvish yeshiva world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-35783253132076622002011-06-20T03:06:34.142-04:002011-06-20T03:06:34.142-04:00The question is how many frum children alive today...The question is how many frum children alive today would not even have been born had Rashag, who was just not Rebbe material, been followed by Bere Moicher Sforim who was not shomer Torah uMitzvos.<br /><br />Those eltere Chassidim and their children were the ones who were mekarev people away from Esalen and other nonsense in the 70's. <br /><br />And I guess you would rather have fewer frum Yidden. Jews being involved in New Age dreck is a symptom of golus. Only the Rebbe and his true Chassidim could turn that around and direct people to real Yiddishkeit and Chassidus.<br /><br />I happen to mix in both the world of old Russian chassidim and of New Age BT's and I have never had a single tofu latke or anything else remotely weird. If anything, gezhe families are avoiding unhealthy food like cane sugar and white flour now because of the BT influence. There are many health food stores and alternative medical practitioners in BP and Willy too - in fact there is only one small health food supplier in CH and it is just a couple of aisles in a typical NY sized pharmacy. (I happen to agree with Rav Avrohom Blumenkranz AH who called alternative medicine kishuf - sadly he was ill all his life and he knew all too well how these quacks prey on people. Healthy eating, as opposed to macrobiotics and other food fetishes, is another story.)<br /><br />I think you regularly eat a species of mushroom that induces sinas chinam and jealousy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-57334202502603536852011-06-19T21:03:11.330-04:002011-06-19T21:03:11.330-04:00The real question is what Lubavitch would have bee...The real question is what Lubavitch would have been without all the New Age,macrobiotically induced, Esalen inspired,magic mushroomed,advanced astral projection, higher chassidic, BT consciousness?Would the eltere chassidim who came in the 60's and 70's have been "bakvem"without the likes of Carlos Castaneda and the chavraye kadisha from Berkeley to be mekabel ponim them?Me thinks not.Thankfully,these people who had suffered so much"in yene medineh" were not subject to culture shock and just "fit right in."The tofu latkes tasted just like the "yuzhke" they had in Sibir.Glogover Rebbe's Gabbainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-18986485540500820232011-06-19T20:15:37.315-04:002011-06-19T20:15:37.315-04:00LOL.
Even the secular researchers who would do a...LOL. <br /><br />Even the secular researchers who would do anything to prove Bere Moicher Sforim's father should have been rebbe admit that Bere had no regard for halacha. He would have had a small neo-Chassidic group on the fringes of modern Orthodoxy, in a little shul in the back of 770. The rest of 770 would have been used only for an occasional wedding or more likely levaya.<br /><br />There would have been no Chabad under the other option, and either most of the Chassidim, especially the ones who left Russia after the war would have gone somewhere else and compelled the Rebbe to be Rebbe there or they would have fallen apart.<br /><br />In fact had the other scenario taken place some of the Chassidim who did not leave until the 60's and 70's might well never have left and who knows where they would have ended up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-51215979692777695692011-06-19T20:00:44.083-04:002011-06-19T20:00:44.083-04:00Anon8:52There are so many problems in Lubavitch to...Anon8:52There are so many problems in Lubavitch today many of which are not even touched upon in this blog because of respect for the Baal Hoachsanyah,that I must say Lubavitch under a Rashag-Bere administration would not have been the end of life on planet Earth. There certainly would not be mentally ill "Hassidics" offering "toasts" to an upholstered red chair and there probably would not be a group of mekusharim trying to put their neighbors in the penitentiary.And maybe,just maybe,there'd be an educational system in place where people could actually learn enough mentchiskeit to conduct a normal conversation without resorting to viscious,personal insults.But then again what would we do without an army of 15 year olds in untucked Arrow shirts[no tails,please]and super-sized Borsalinos with those tell-tale kneitches in all"the right places?"I don't know about you but I'd be pretty darn depressed.Glogover Rebbe's Gabbainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-55802416818156111882011-06-19T19:17:47.372-04:002011-06-19T19:17:47.372-04:00In other words, it is the story of Saba NaNach. Th...In other words, it is the story of Saba NaNach. The NaNach crew found a senile old man in a nursing home and made a fool of him.<br /><br />The Malochim found a shamash and made a rebbe of him.<br /><br />Then again, Chabad also is now run by the Rebbe's baal agule but it hardly matters because it is far bigger than any administrator and if the baal agule disappeared tomorrow, it would be as if nothing happened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-45876290930938390572011-06-19T18:06:41.876-04:002011-06-19T18:06:41.876-04:00the Malach was Shamash in the Beis Kneses Ari in t...the Malach was Shamash in the Beis Kneses Ari in the Bronx and someone discovered him, he had no intention of becoming a RebbeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-24721298029422990362011-06-18T20:52:41.979-04:002011-06-18T20:52:41.979-04:00What Chabad would have looked like had Schneur had...What Chabad would have looked like had Schneur had his way:<br /><br />September 30, 2012:<br /><br />Today might be the last day on which Schneur Zalman A., former secretary to the last Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Sholom DovBer "Barry" Gurary, can call the practically abandoned hulk of 770 Eastern Parkway his home.<br /><br />The building, which once belonged to the Lubavitch organization and served as its headquarters, had been mysteriously signed over to Gurary himself, and mortgaged, before Gurary's death in 2005. <br /><br />Bank of America has been trying to foreclose on the mortgage for over three years now, and only A's status as a senior citizen and his use of various stalling tactics has allowed him to remain there rent-free.<br /><br />Today it has become clear that A's has no legal right to remain in the building, as he has no legal proof that Gurary ever gave him the right to reside there. Bank of America has also applied to have the building condemned due to water damage and other hazardous conditions.<br /><br />A, who is considered an amateur historian and harmless neighborhood character by the mixture of modern Orthodox former Chassidim, urban professionals and middle-class blacks who live in the area, has no heat or electricity ever since the home next to him was knocked down to prepare for the building of condominiums by its owner.<br /><br />Gurary had presided over a dwindling following of Chassidim, as the already small, insular sect had lost much membership when his father, Rabbi Shmaryahu Gurary, passed away in 1989.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-31080155772668587172011-06-18T20:41:57.768-04:002011-06-18T20:41:57.768-04:00Maybe his real nickname was der Moloch?
He had no...Maybe his real nickname was der Moloch?<br /><br />He had no connections with anyone but his followers, who found him somewhere because they were looking for more than TvD had to offer at the time.<br /><br />There were no real Rebbes of note, so this is what they dredged up from the Bronx.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-30225843049837656072011-06-17T14:37:47.984-04:002011-06-17T14:37:47.984-04:00Anon
"and now only a fingerful claim any conn...Anon<br />"and now only a fingerful claim any connection to him. Even Schneur is only interested in him as a (minor) "<br />this whole fascination with the Malach comes ,from his stance that he took against Chabad. The Malochim claim that Reb Chaim, Reb Mayer Simcha and many misnagdim gedolim were enamored of his gadlus in Torah and sifrie chakira. There are no letters or hard facts on the above, it is all half baked stories. Even the brisker family are believing this.<br />There is 1 reason, that they are buying anything, he was anti Chabad from inside. I am not here to diminish his personality, it is just a observation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-33273941697503453092011-06-17T14:18:07.257-04:002011-06-17T14:18:07.257-04:00Anon Malach/ Malech
Did you ever read Lemel Schwar...Anon Malach/ Malech<br />Did you ever read Lemel Schwartz short biography on the Malach/ Malech?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com