tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post6048375879432508539..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: Brisker "Wikleaks" B O M B (Part II)Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-80994324189919796792013-01-21T14:46:03.361-05:002013-01-21T14:46:03.361-05:00לתלמיד(י) ישיבת בריסק הע"י
דאס איז בפירוש יע...לתלמיד(י) ישיבת בריסק הע"י<br /><br />דאס איז בפירוש יע געווען עכ"פ א חלק<br /> פון מיין כוונה<br /><br />און אי"ה וועט בעתיד (הקרוב) קומען נאך סחורהHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-27681676572883784532013-01-21T14:20:46.941-05:002013-01-21T14:20:46.941-05:00לכבוד ה"ה וכו' וכו' הרב צבי ציג, ה...לכבוד ה"ה וכו' וכו' הרב צבי ציג, ה' עליו יחיה.<br />חאטש אז מסתמא דאס האט נישט געווען דיין כונה, מכ"מ דו האסט משמח געווען אסאך אסאך ליטווישער אידען וואס האבען געווען ממש אויף געלעבט צו זעען אריגינעלע פרישע סחורה פון רבותינו הקדושים מבריסק. וואס על כל טפה וטפה חדשה כלתה נפשינו. בעט איך דיר אויב דו האסט ביכולתך צו באוויזען מער בריסקער סחורה, אפי' אויב ס'איז נישט זאכען וואס דו האסט א באזונדערע אינטערעס אין דעם. פון דעסט וועגען ביטע אל תמנע טוב מבעליו! איך בעט בכל לשון של בקשה אז דו זאלסט דאס מפיץ זיין מיר זאלען אלע קענען הנאה האבען.<br />בכבוד רב,<br />תלמיד(י) ישיבת בריסקAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-68040660282600524882013-01-16T06:01:35.772-05:002013-01-16T06:01:35.772-05:00I have never seen any criticism on Brown's boo...I have never seen any criticism on Brown's book. Could someone post a link.<br />The story with RAK and the LR, for example, is quoted by a known liar. I am originally from London and we always knew he is not to be trusted. For some reason Brown considers him an authority.<br />Hirschel - the sun in Crown Heights shines brighter, the chulent is greasier, the vodka stronger, the bathrooms in 770 smell like roses, the mikva is wetter and hotter, the shoelaces stay tied, noses wipe themselves and food stamps applications shorter. All in Kan tziva.yankelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04865495282241078611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-6278478527360691692013-01-15T15:20:47.854-05:002013-01-15T15:20:47.854-05:00Brown is also guilty of guessing what was in the C...Brown is also guilty of guessing what was in the CI's mind. The CI was only for an objective specific criticism. Kovnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-23136675813319311822013-01-15T14:15:19.852-05:002013-01-15T14:15:19.852-05:00Kovner
"Once you stop hagiographies,you'r...Kovner<br />"Once you stop hagiographies,you're opening up a Pandora's box"<br />but according the letter of the CI, this was his willDirshunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-19794651668407493522013-01-15T13:34:57.552-05:002013-01-15T13:34:57.552-05:00Kovner
"The problem was that Brown built a wh...Kovner<br />"The problem was that Brown built a whole derogatory theory on some vague words of the CI which didn't fit with the CI that people knew."<br />My argument is not if its true or false,( I take no sides) its against the whole concept of the Chazon Ishniks who write against Brown for having the Chutzpa, to analyze a Godal in a critical fashionDirshunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-33460530710238519812013-01-15T13:31:56.150-05:002013-01-15T13:31:56.150-05:00Kovner
I think that this letter was a mistake of t...Kovner<br />I think that this letter was a mistake of the Grieniman family to print it, it is basically not intended for consumption of the masses. I heard lately a argument that even the Emuna Ubetuchen was intended for elite crowd, especially his critic of the way the world thinks of Bitochan. Thats not the issue now, but Chazal say that if ever you saw a Talmid Chochem Sheover Aviero at night, you should not have thoughts about it at day.For sure that you are not permited to talk about it. So we see that Chazal had a different view on guarding the dignity of a Talmid chochem, they were definitely against keeping a black book with loshan hora on Gedolim.<br />I think its a mistake and should never have been printed, it was a Eis Laisos letter ... but not as a derech lerabimDirshunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-62511654503475738842013-01-15T12:55:31.640-05:002013-01-15T12:55:31.640-05:00Once you stop hagiographies,you're opening up ...Once you stop hagiographies,you're opening up a Pandora's box. On the one hand, I believe that Deutch's book on the Lubavitcher rebbe gave me very good insight into his personality. It was honest, only stories, and well researched. If only all biographies would be like that!But then you have the Friedman biography of the Rebbe where it's filled with the authors writing what they think went through the Rebbe's head. I don't buy that.That's the problem if you veer off the troden path.Kovnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-89900716017973306012013-01-15T12:44:48.915-05:002013-01-15T12:44:48.915-05:00The problem was that Brown built a whole derogator...The problem was that Brown built a whole derogatory theory on some vague words of the CI which didn't fit with the CI that people knew. And indeed, Brisk laughs at the artscrollization of gedolim. But the truth is it's impossible to present a biography with loshon horas that are many times subjective and also involve living people who will be hurt etc. And anyway the masses have no need for this loshon hora, and those who need to know have ways of finding out. Kovnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-76125621420072470112013-01-15T12:02:31.595-05:002013-01-15T12:02:31.595-05:00Kovner
Why were the Chazon Ishniks so mad on Benny...Kovner<br />Why were the Chazon Ishniks so mad on Benny browns book, when he aired some struggles in his life, Leshitosom,he did the right thing, by airing it and let the public judge,<br />On 1 point you are correct, on the MO way of Pesak, but on the other hand, the biographies that they write is more critical and truthfull, so if he quotes a pesak of some godal you still can decide if to use the pesak, since you have a honest bigraphy on him. But with the Artscroll/Aron surasky style hagiograhy,all are from the same cookie cutter, and its impossible to see the Klie Ilan or the TechelesDirshunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-44854808403751688552013-01-15T11:43:07.032-05:002013-01-15T11:43:07.032-05:00It's a halachah. The CI held that just like on...It's a halachah. The CI held that just like one is permitted to advise between doctors which doctor is better and expain why even if it entails loshon hora, it is permitted to explain why one talmid chochom should be followed over another. Just read any mizrachi or MO halachah article and you will see how right the chazon ish was. When discussing different views in halachah, "all rabbonim are created equal", and they give the same weight to any young rabbi as to a posek hador.Kovnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-87610098681440670992013-01-15T11:13:25.144-05:002013-01-15T11:13:25.144-05:00Kovner
"There is a famous letter from the Cha...Kovner<br />"There is a famous letter from the Chazon ish printed in the Igros where he wrotes that it's very important to know the exact level of talmidei chachomim, and is therefore permitted to describe that level even if it entails loshon hora. "<br />is this a Halachic pesak and on the same page with the Chofetz Chaim? or a emotional pesak? if its halachic then you think we should pasken like that. Why dont Yated, Hapeles, Maseh Ish, put in loshen horeh on the Chazon Ish, because we need to know and decide.Dirshunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-27803145852921123322013-01-14T22:31:10.963-05:002013-01-14T22:31:10.963-05:00The main "bomb" in these notes is that n...The main "bomb" in these notes is that not every talmid chochom is nececarily a manhig, and some held that R' Issur Zalman zt"l was soft and temimusdik and therfore not fit to be a manhig. Nu. Rav AJ has continued this tradition and declared that R' Chaim Kunyefsky therefore does not fit the criteria of being a manhig. Let everyone decide for himself.If you feel he's right, then listen to R' Aron Leib shlit"a who is very on the ball. If you feel that R' Chaim is so holy that he has siyata dishmaya in all that he does then follow him.Kovnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-45655964611603958002013-01-14T22:23:46.952-05:002013-01-14T22:23:46.952-05:00but Shmeryl I posted the link to box.com, which I ...but Shmeryl I posted the link to box.com, which I believe is allowed even on KosherNetHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-75100400012836012152013-01-14T22:23:02.256-05:002013-01-14T22:23:02.256-05:00There is a famous letter from the Chazon ish print...There is a famous letter from the Chazon ish printed in the Igros where he wrotes that it's very important to know the exact level of talmidei chachomim, and is therefore permitted to describe that level even if it entails loshon hora. I heard from a reliable source that the Greiniman family has a "secret" booklet where they recorded comments from the CI about various people, some derogatory.Kovnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-47640071732008413902013-01-14T22:21:55.793-05:002013-01-14T22:21:55.793-05:00Well I for one may take pride in the fact that I l...Well I for one may take pride in the fact that I listen to the Gdeolei HaDor finem Kinus Klal Yisroel, and in particular the manhig yisroel HaRosh Yeshiva R' Malkiel Kotler and do not have unfiltered internet. Scribed is blocked by KosherNet. Isnt it hashguche prutis? I cant see this lushen horeh against the malachim hakdoishim miBrisk, heichal kodsheinu. By listening to the gdolei yisroel I am spared from the motzi shem ra and lushen hora against (or from) Brisk.<br /><br />Shmeryl Tzeitelbeitelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-89984892151082963582013-01-14T20:05:00.805-05:002013-01-14T20:05:00.805-05:00Berl
where have u been?Berl<br />where have u been?gytrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-22284733151313302002013-01-14T19:38:41.023-05:002013-01-14T19:38:41.023-05:00The Italian was one of the greatest mechabrim from...The Italian was one of the greatest mechabrim from hundreds of years ago ? And Lubavitch was the one who didn't like his beard ?<br /><br />What type of burritos did you eat today that is causing you to spew your idiocy with such venom ?<br /><br />Roiv ruboi of the oilam didn't accept him, not then and certainly not the oilam who was oisek btoiras hasoid, and later on the talmidei Habesht !!<br /><br />His renaissance came about much later on, with the advent of the mussar movement etc.<br /><br />Dude, open a book occasionally and read up on some history.<br />Reb Hirshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-35728475675723561162013-01-14T18:39:06.593-05:002013-01-14T18:39:06.593-05:001. "maran" sounds like a first-class a-h...1. "maran" sounds like a first-class a-hole;<br />2. handwriting is childish and ugly, written by dim-witted ans primitive man.berl, crown heightsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-63480013512508793032013-01-14T16:26:58.266-05:002013-01-14T16:26:58.266-05:00just to clarify. that dovy that was commenting her...just to clarify. that dovy that was commenting here is not me. dovy in jerseynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-32636156731504063392013-01-14T16:18:17.532-05:002013-01-14T16:18:17.532-05:00OK, lets start with the basics. I hope that this w...OK, lets start with the basics. I hope that this will be billed at less than $35.<br /><br />Who is writing to him, and is he quoting anybody? Also, what is the date?<br /><br />If you can answer this simple question, then your reward will be more questions.<br /><br />Matan Skhuruh Be'Tziduhrebcharlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-33854472561931711052013-01-14T16:14:16.215-05:002013-01-14T16:14:16.215-05:00See page 14 of the file for a mayseh from the rece...See page 14 of the file for a mayseh from the recently departed Rav Brevda zt"l.Superintendant Chalmersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-46788365997381641132013-01-14T14:45:11.893-05:002013-01-14T14:45:11.893-05:00it's not the fact that you're commenting, ...it's not the fact that you're commenting, Dovy, it's WHAT you're saying. Shoyn.Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-17238115150698421102013-01-14T14:39:55.583-05:002013-01-14T14:39:55.583-05:00U are in the Olin hamseh and commenting at the sam...U are in the Olin hamseh and commenting at the same timedovynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-43481262956439820352013-01-14T14:39:34.075-05:002013-01-14T14:39:34.075-05:00and now we see that all sides have pearls...and now we see that all sides have pearls...Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.com