tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post8882499150029672864..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: The great עטיפת טלית debate raging now in LubavitchHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-53831335688841377972014-11-16T20:14:34.812-05:002014-11-16T20:14:34.812-05:00R'Landa's method is basically an advertise...R'Landa's method is basically an advertisement for the reintroduction of the Rashab tallis.<br /><br />Having tried it, I can point out that R'Landa's demonstration only works with a Rashab tallis, i.e. one that is extraordinarily wide. <br /><br />A regular-sized tallis will not fit around <br />from the right side; <br />all the way around to the right of a person's back;<br />with the tzitzis still on the left side;<br />with enough to cover the "chazeh". Tallis Admirernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-5640810393358410482014-11-10T22:37:46.538-05:002014-11-10T22:37:46.538-05:00Many years ago, when I was married, I learned the ...Many years ago, when I was married, I learned the sugya in depth. I decided that there were three salient features<br /><br />a) You had to make the brocho over l'asiyoson which is why Achronim say to start the brocho as you commence the action<br />b) It was clear that Yishmaelim had to see, and Poskim considered it wrong that you shouldn't be able to see when you make the brocho and it should hang low but not too low<br />c) there was a machlockes as to whether onshore wrap to one side as in these videos, or wrap left to write. I decided to do both, so I first wrap like the Mishna Brura and then throw one over the shoulder after a brief wait<br /><br />It's important to remember that the Beged should get to your waste line when you are doing all this. Small Taleisim or people who scrunch it up often don't have their backs covered.<br /><br />Indeed, this was long long ago. At one of our Sheva Brachos, nobody had prepared, and they asked me to speak, and I had just learned it all, so I spoke about it for about 40 minutes. I'm sure everyone was asleep at the end :-)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-23991506559557405662014-11-05T11:29:19.432-05:002014-11-05T11:29:19.432-05:00I i'm not mistaken the Munkacser writes that c...I i'm not mistaken the Munkacser writes that comment re his Rebbe the Shinover that went to EY to see the atifah of the yishmaelim.<br />The Munkacser himself in Nimukei OC paskens that the atifah must be done without covering the eyes in accordance with atifas yishmaelim that dont cover their eyes (if they would cover their eyes they would be unable to see where they are going and could fall into pits etc.).strizovnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-29893856785976564322014-11-04T16:21:43.090-05:002014-11-04T16:21:43.090-05:00my father told me that in the early years the rebb...my father told me that in the early years the rebbe would put on his tallis in such a manner that the black strips would not show, to be similar to his fathers tallis which was all white (al pi kabalah), and eventually (dont know what year) the rebbe changed it to show the black strips like the frierdike rebbestrips?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-39305516363927544942014-11-04T12:23:57.233-05:002014-11-04T12:23:57.233-05:00If I am not mistaking,
the Munkacher has some wor...If I am not mistaking, <br />the Munkacher has some words in his Nimukie OC regarding the Chabad atifa,Darkie Hachasidimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-62801362149751587002014-11-04T12:21:28.083-05:002014-11-04T12:21:28.083-05:00Tzemach
Tzemach said...
In Jewish history the Tal...Tzemach<br /> Tzemach said...<br />In Jewish history the Talis was always used as an issue to cover up<br />hidden real agendas, <br />The real agenda is, today in Chabad educational entities, how many boys NOT Jewish by Halacha are trained to put on tzituis and non Jewish girls are trained to be Jewish and when they grow up one of their problems will be how to do a chabad atifa <br />I wonder why you don't discuss this difference from chabad and the rest of the frum world"<br />As you know shluchim are not doing Gierus, all is done thru Rabbi Barry Frendel or Rav Lebel TroperRCAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-83062589860075596832014-11-04T10:57:28.122-05:002014-11-04T10:57:28.122-05:00i have seen some gerer's here in IL putting th...i have seen some gerer's here in IL putting the tallis over the head like him during the bruche.Fritzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13386015963951480024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-59794359283688870212014-11-04T04:32:21.203-05:002014-11-04T04:32:21.203-05:00Hit the big news site.
http://crownheights.info/so...Hit the big news site.<br />http://crownheights.info/something-jewish/457763/great-talis-debate-rages-in-lubavitch/yomtovindervochennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-30041555583712614622014-11-03T20:30:04.279-05:002014-11-03T20:30:04.279-05:00I have seen R' Landa's atifa a number of t...I have seen R' Landa's atifa a number of times.....by the older generation of anash and some mashpi'im.Reb Hershnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-23743614486279102032014-11-03T15:13:31.166-05:002014-11-03T15:13:31.166-05:00Landa manages a double whammy, grunem and ashkavta...Landa manages a double whammy, grunem and ashkavta d'rebi as sources. No thanks. None of them manage to mention that the rebbe additionally left one shoulder covered by white of tallis and the other with stripes, speculation says to cover both frierdike rebbe and his father.guravitzernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-88667274569722238062014-11-03T15:13:26.716-05:002014-11-03T15:13:26.716-05:00TZEMACH,
You've been sorely missed!
I have nos...TZEMACH,<br />You've been sorely missed!<br />I have nostalgic feeling for the mentalblog days, with shneour and the acerbic and (sometimes quite nasty)berel chyomtovindervochennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-78601676048419407202014-11-03T14:29:32.875-05:002014-11-03T14:29:32.875-05:00I've never seen an atifa like R' Landa'...I've never seen an atifa like R' Landa's, but it's majestic and I'll have to try it out (maybe tomorrow morning?). Similarly, I don't think I've ever seen anyone make the bracha as he does it.<br /><br />I was trained to do it as R' Dubov demonstrates.Dovidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-57484132232666414282014-11-03T13:45:08.528-05:002014-11-03T13:45:08.528-05:00is this the tzemach from mentalblogis this the tzemach from mentalblogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1092001033983303032014-11-03T09:47:57.270-05:002014-11-03T09:47:57.270-05:00wow, look who's back!wow, look who's back!Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-61689067110782930142014-11-03T09:39:52.303-05:002014-11-03T09:39:52.303-05:00In Jewish history the Talis was always used as an...In Jewish history the Talis was always used as an issue to cover up<br />hidden real agendas, <br />The real agenda is, today in Chabad educational entities, how many boys NOT Jewish by Halacha are trained to put on tzituis and non Jewish girls are trained to be Jewish and when they grow up one of their problems will be how to do a chabad atifa <br />I wonder why you don't discuss this difference from chabad and the rest of the frum world Tzemachnoreply@blogger.com