tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post116595265510813336..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: What's in a picture?Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166407615452781842006-12-17T21:06:00.000-05:002006-12-17T21:06:00.000-05:00Fool Hashie boy, der Shygetz is Creedmoor. You see...Fool Hashie boy, der Shygetz is Creedmoor. You seem to have escaped again and you're dirtying Tzig the way you tried to dirty Sultan Knish.<BR/><BR/>Get a life. Even a low life costs only 99 cents on Ebay.Der Shygetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03156901845306359680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166407476121550822006-12-17T21:04:00.000-05:002006-12-17T21:04:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Der Shygetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03156901845306359680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166337271235651202006-12-17T01:34:00.000-05:002006-12-17T01:34:00.000-05:00ShygetzYou above comment is quite objectionable, c...Shygetz<BR/>You above comment is quite objectionable, clean up the language and raise the level of debate or post under CreedmoorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166313358048420332006-12-16T18:55:00.000-05:002006-12-16T18:55:00.000-05:00Or Schmuck, I mean Ohr Somayach, and similar menta...Or Schmuck, I mean Ohr Somayach, and similar mental institutions, I mean institutions of learning, get their share of nuts as well. But they clean them out fast whereas Chabad lets them hang around out of ahavas Yisroel. In some cases, however, these people shoulc be in the mental health system and Chabad does no one any favors by keeping them around.Der Shygetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03156901845306359680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166206985953961432006-12-15T13:23:00.000-05:002006-12-15T13:23:00.000-05:00The Muslims attract enough, Lubavitch attract seco...The Muslims attract enough, Lubavitch attract second best, and I don't know that meshugoim are attrqacted to Judaism.........unless Lubavitch is Jewish, but that was some time ago.Btw, have a merry Yat Kislev and a happy new year.YechiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166206082594043322006-12-15T13:08:00.000-05:002006-12-15T13:08:00.000-05:00Anon,Why are all the meshugoim attracted to Judais...Anon,<BR/>Why are all the meshugoim attracted to Judaism?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166170561567193562006-12-15T03:16:00.000-05:002006-12-15T03:16:00.000-05:00But why are all the meshugoim attracted to Lubavit...But why are all the meshugoim attracted to Lubavitch??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166127563587102522006-12-14T15:19:00.000-05:002006-12-14T15:19:00.000-05:00Another genius named Anonymous,I realize this is h...Another genius named Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>I realize this is hard for you since you guys don't use that brain much, but here goes:<BR/><BR/>Some moron always pipes up with the imbecilic statement basically saying that (use your thumb here):<BR/><BR/>[Paraphrasing] "Siiiince Lubavitch has some folks that may have flipped their lid, then we must conclude that they are the natural product of a movement that is inherently deviant. And therefore the Rebbeim, chassidus, and all chassidim of Lubavitch are corrupt."<BR/><BR/>And someone always attempts to point out (although, I agree that it's really not worth it) that there is no proof of anything here, other than since G-d given bechira chofshis.<BR/><BR/>So, people try to point out to you that Lubavitch maintains no positions more radical than mainstream Yiddishkeit, and that people being wrong about Moshiach isn't a horrific crime (R' Akiva, Achiya Hashiloni, etc), in fact - if you believe in Moshiach, it's possible to err - and clearly that is not criminal.<BR/><BR/>But I know that you wont [want to] understand something that is so simple.MEKUSHORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16796914569286969936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166125876745249342006-12-14T14:51:00.000-05:002006-12-14T14:51:00.000-05:00Its funny how the Fringy Chabadskers here are defe...Its funny how the Fringy Chabadskers here are defending their approach by citing people like Achiya. If taking actions which lead to Avoda Zara is your model, you are spot on, as the Rebbe never took action to stop what was inevitable and obviously going to happen after his death. The distortions of the nuts within Chabad are a real issue and to defend it by citing that other great people made terrible mistakes is not much of a defense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166123216559235672006-12-14T14:06:00.000-05:002006-12-14T14:06:00.000-05:00He doesn't. That's why they're so opposed to his ...He doesn't. That's why they're so opposed to his talmid, the Baal Shem Tov...Milhousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14350874508580081286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166115630135393992006-12-14T12:00:00.000-05:002006-12-14T12:00:00.000-05:00Did you know that Achiya Hashiloni - Eliyahu Hanav...Did you know that Achiya Hashiloni - Eliyahu Hanavi's rebbe, and the Gadol hador in his life - was fooled by Yerovom! He even sanctioned activities that resulted in avoda zara mamash (not just the libelous accusations of avroda zara that people make every day here)!<BR/><BR/>How does he get away without severe reprecussions by the Snags?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166053601067459192006-12-13T18:46:00.000-05:002006-12-13T18:46:00.000-05:00Why do people still respect R' Akiva (who was conv...Why do people still respect R' Akiva (who was convinced BarKochba was Moshiach)? I mean, obviosly, he was way off.<BR/>And bichlal Judaism has a problem - do you have any idea how many chashuvei hador thought Shabtai Tzvi was Moshiach? It wasn't just the asafsuf my friends.<BR/><BR/>Maybe belief in Moshiach is the problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166052122742223342006-12-13T18:22:00.000-05:002006-12-13T18:22:00.000-05:00to Unberlwhich religion belives that Elijah the Pr...to Unberl<BR/>which religion belives that Elijah the Prophet shows up at every Bris<BR/>or that Rebbe made kiddush for his family every week even after his death,<BR/>Sunni<BR/>Dalai Lamai<BR/>Sikhs<BR/>or the Jews that claim to be the Am chochom venovenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166046660423605272006-12-13T16:51:00.000-05:002006-12-13T16:51:00.000-05:00You should complain to G-d; this bechira thing was...You should complain to G-d; this bechira thing was really a bad idea, huh?<BR/><BR/>Are all of you too stupid to have an intelligent conversation? <BR/>Don't bother answering; the question was rhetorical (if you are smart enough to understand what that means).MEKUSHORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16796914569286969936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166045227607195852006-12-13T16:27:00.000-05:002006-12-13T16:27:00.000-05:00Fast QuizWhich yeshiva or chasidic sect has produc...Fast Quiz<BR/>Which yeshiva or chasidic sect has produced members who proclaim their deceased leader as either alive many years after his passing or Creator of the world<BR/>*Ponovizh---<BR/>*Satmar----<BR/>*Breslav---<BR/>*general 'Snags----<BR/>*Our 'thinking'friends over in Crown Height<BR/><BR/>Mekushor what is it about your 'thinking' friends that attracts all the hemorrhoids?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166042495913399032006-12-13T15:41:00.000-05:002006-12-13T15:41:00.000-05:00Profound words Zevi, very deep and intuitive. Anot...Profound words Zevi, very deep and intuitive. Another product of the great Yishivos.MEKUSHORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16796914569286969936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166041440159490062006-12-13T15:24:00.000-05:002006-12-13T15:24:00.000-05:00MekushorGo continue to leck that despicable shtick...Mekushor<BR/>Go continue to leck that despicable shtick yeshus' mechila,Berl.You are a talmid neomon to that rosho and sonei yisroelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166035294450475982006-12-13T13:41:00.000-05:002006-12-13T13:41:00.000-05:00I knew that the gaonei hador would have some very ...I knew that the gaonei hador would have some very insightful comments, but since this is the best they could come up with I am convinced that I was more right than I had even realized!<BR/><BR/>I never said that you should have a living Rebbe, pictures or what you should do with any of those things anyway. I said that there should be a bittul; there should be an attitude of uncertainty and a higher - divinely inspired - authority.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure exactly what all the weird accusations you throw out there are all about, but your incapability to think straight is probably a result of your Yeshiva system.MEKUSHORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16796914569286969936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166034869583129482006-12-13T13:34:00.000-05:002006-12-13T13:34:00.000-05:00MekushorYou have 'bittul' to a Rebbe, you don't de...Mekushor<BR/>You have 'bittul' to a Rebbe, you don't decide on your own.Wait a sec, I thought your Rebbe was niftar, no?So you mock the Lutvack friend of yours and don't realize that this is the unfortunate case in Lubavitch today:Ein manhig beyisroel veish hayoshor beinov ya'aseh.<BR/>I guess it's above your 'binah' but I''ll still try:'People who live in glass houses should not throw stones' Ever heard of the saying?.Lubab, get with the chasidic program:A chassidus is built on a leader,get yourself a new rebbe,NOW!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166033634127665562006-12-13T13:13:00.000-05:002006-12-13T13:13:00.000-05:00Not sure what you are talking about. There always...Not sure what you are talking about. There always were pictures of Gedolim in Litvishe homes and schools. They didnt take this from Chassidim. You need to visit more litvaks.<BR/><BR/>As far as bittul you are also wrong. As mentioned, there is the idea of Daas Torah in which ones Rebbi or Rav is the person to whom they are machniah. <BR/><BR/>The difference between chassidim and Misnagdim in this area is that (Chabad) Chassidim have so many pictures of just one person that it looks like there are no other Gedolim or people worthy of respect. It makes it look idolatrous (which it in fact is for some people).<BR/><BR/>As far as 'hiskashrus', it depends on the definition. We dont meditate on the image of our Rebbi, but we ask him our Sheilos and hashkafa questions. The Chassidic style of hiskashrus wherein someone meditates on the image or idea of the Rebbi is Chassidic (perhaps only Chabad).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166027281167109582006-12-13T11:28:00.000-05:002006-12-13T11:28:00.000-05:00Is there a Livishe concept of hiskashrus bichlal?Is there a Livishe concept of hiskashrus bichlal?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166025729638614252006-12-13T11:02:00.000-05:002006-12-13T11:02:00.000-05:00I COME FROM A HUNGIRIAN CHASSIDISH BACKROUND WHO T...I COME FROM A HUNGIRIAN CHASSIDISH BACKROUND WHO TURNED OUT FAR FROM THE CHASSIDHE VELT ETC. THE KESHER THAT I FEEL WITH THE REBBE IS EN LESHAR: I HAVE A PICTURE OF THE REBBE IN MY APT. WITH A CLOCK ON TOP. A PICTURE OF THE REBBE HANGING ON MY KEY CHAIN. HE DOES WONDERSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166025620855195672006-12-13T11:00:00.000-05:002006-12-13T11:00:00.000-05:00Anon,First of all, Mussar is not synonymous with L...Anon,<BR/>First of all, Mussar is not synonymous with Litvak. Second of all, I don't know if the bittul they refer to is the same, since I dont see it. What I meant is that I think it's a different kind of bittul.<BR/><BR/>Snag,<BR/>I never told anyone to hang a picture - every person had the ability and my blessing to do what they want in this area - as long as you don't blast someone for making the choice the make.<BR/>Like I said, I was speaking only about myself - many other people don't need these things, that's fine with me. To the contrary, I think that people that oppose pictures shouldn't have them.<BR/><BR/>Now, I know that the (relatively new) concept of Daas Torah is Litvish code for bittul to the words of their Rosh Yeshiva. (and I suspect it is another case of lifting the idea from Chassidim and calling it their own.) However, I know many ehrliche Litvishe guys, and that concept of bittul is not at all like a Chossid-Rebbe bittul. <BR/><BR/>Tzib,<BR/>I'm not crazy about the name either... it's a long story.MEKUSHORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16796914569286969936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1166022921167402252006-12-13T10:15:00.000-05:002006-12-13T10:15:00.000-05:00personally, i don't like the name mkushor, it sort...personally, i don't like the name mkushor, it sort of reminds me of the term "porush" that was used in pre-chassidic times.<BR/>,ער איז א מקושר <BR/>ugh!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1165997021671705352006-12-13T03:03:00.000-05:002006-12-13T03:03:00.000-05:00Litvaks were crazy about pictures in the old count...Litvaks were crazy about pictures in the old country. See Daniel Charny's "Vilna", which is a collection of memoires from turn of the century Vilna. Every house had a picture of the Vilna Gaon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com