tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post1787747627045067751..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: א רבי אין אוניווערסיטעיטHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-50444867545665019202015-02-20T15:20:58.143-05:002015-02-20T15:20:58.143-05:00Yeshiva College was firmly in existence well befor...Yeshiva College was firmly in existence well before R' Shimon's day. Discussing when the college got university accredation is off-point.<br /><br />Had Rav Shimon actually left because of a problem with Yeshiva College, why did his talmid, Rav Dovid Lifshitz, ever join? Even if he had disagreed with his rebbe on the subject of secular studies, wouldn't it be a bit of a lehach'is (spite?) issue to join an institution one's rebbe left as treif?<br /><br />In 1920, well before R' Shimon went to America, his brother-in-law, R' Yoseif Leiv Bloch founded a Mechinah in Telzh which also offered secular studies.<br /><br />Not only did Rav Shimon tell R/Dr Revel he was leaving because he was needed back in Grodno, the letters from R' CO Grozhinsky and the Chafeitz Chaim begging him to return before Shaarei Torah (Grodno Yeshiva) fell apart. I assume the family issue was a contributing factor as well.<br /><br />But as for having problems with secular studies.... RIETS was not the first time Rav Shimon Shkop taught in a yeshiva attached to an institution that offered secular studies. When he gave shiur in Telzhe (1885-1903), the yeshiva ran a Mechina (193micha bergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11612144735431285113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-78112153736196864122012-11-16T13:02:13.276-05:002012-11-16T13:02:13.276-05:00YU became a University in 1945. Rav Shimon Shkop d...YU became a University in 1945. Rav Shimon Shkop died in 1939, leaving YU in 1929. He may have left because of secular studies there at the time, but not because it was about to be or already a University. Natannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-40376282369941098172012-11-16T08:54:33.182-05:002012-11-16T08:54:33.182-05:00SruelChaim Menashe said.: "Did you ever read ...SruelChaim Menashe said.: "Did you ever read the Mayan Toihar..or you just gargling." <br /><br /><br />עיין בספר נדחי ישראל לרבינו החפץ חיים זצוק״ל שכתב בהתלהבות עצום מקונטרס "מעיין טהור", וסיים שאסור ״לסור אפילו מאחד מהדינים אפילו כחוט השערה״ עיי״ש<br /><br />Did the cufetz chaim of radin wrote this for the ungarishe, or for the polishe and Ukrainer? vd"l<br /><br />שוואנץ מלמדnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-65594742772074464232012-11-15T21:21:00.096-05:002012-11-15T21:21:00.096-05:00schneur said..
I think our readers need to know th... schneur said..<br />I think our readers need to know that classical Litvishe rabbonim and roshe yeshiva were not kanoim. Even Reb Elchonon was not such a kanoie.<br />Reb Moshe was a kanoie ?Reb Yankev ? Rav Ruderman ? Rav Isser Zalman ? Rav Chaim Ozer ? Rav Moshe Mordechai ? Rev Dovid Lifshitz ? Rav Gustman ?"<br /><br />Wow this is a great topic to follow up on. How did kano'us get into the litvishe stream that they sound almost like satmar today? <br /><br />It seems (with no proof whatsoever) that everyone is trying to live up to some brisker standard, and kano'us is one way to do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-6544427327915698072012-11-15T21:08:53.123-05:002012-11-15T21:08:53.123-05:00shneur, thanks!
that was very informative about r...shneur, thanks!<br /><br />that was very informative about r yakov and r shach.moshe m oshelhttp://moshemoshel72.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-46314310397968817202012-11-15T20:27:39.566-05:002012-11-15T20:27:39.566-05:00Divrie Yatziv
"טויבער לאטצי וגונדא דילי' ...Divrie Yatziv<br />"טויבער לאטצי וגונדא דילי' דליכא דידע לישנא בישא כמותם, ומשקר בכ"פ אף במילתא דעבודי לגלי' במומו פוסל, כי ונהפוך הוא!"<br />Did you ever read the Mayan Toihar..or you just gargling SruelChaim Menashenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-81636284777072864492012-11-15T12:44:48.526-05:002012-11-15T12:44:48.526-05:00Tzig.
Last week on WED I was busy studying real c...Tzig.<br />Last week on WED I was busy studying real chassdius(and doing just a wee bit of work) and had no time for the Kaliver Rebbe shlit"a , but I saw him last year and I suspect this was a repeat performance !<br />The Koidenover is friend of mine and I appreciate his gadlus so much !<br />A shiur implies a shiur in "lernen " not a mussar shmuess or a dvar Torah or divre hissorerus.<br />As I said giving a shiur in Nigle is not a feat all can do even if you have a sheiner bord and a shenerer robe. The roshe yeshiva here are big lamdanim like Rabbis Willig, Twersky, Simon, and others<br />Reb Yankev. His son R. Nosson relates the fact that his dad wanted to come to YU.I heard him relate such myself. Also my friend Dr. Marc Shapiro has unearthed correspondence between Dr. Belkin and rav yankev about this subject.<br />The son of the Avi Ezri relates that his father wanted to come to Yu(after all his previosu posts wer ein Luninetz(Karlin) Tel Aviv Mizrachi and I think Hadarom (Rechovoth Mizrachi-RCA yeshiva)Mizrachi so why is this so out of line ? By the way the son Dr. Shach studied here at Yu and gained a doctorate here.<br />I think our readers need to know that classical Litvishe rabbonim and roshe yeshiva were not kanoim. Even Reb Elchonon was not such a kanoie.<br />Reb Moshe was a kanoie ?Reb Yankev ? Rav Ruderman ? Rav Isser Zalman ? Rav Chaim Ozer ? Rav Moshe Mordechai ? Rev Dovid Lifshitz ? Rav Gustman ?<br /> <br />schneurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-68299444789830262582012-11-15T07:35:28.676-05:002012-11-15T07:35:28.676-05:00Twistelton-Twistelton : "Actualy, rav Aaron A...Twistelton-Twistelton : "Actualy, rav Aaron ALSO did. In around 1936 on a fundraising trip to the USA. Never again<br />"<br /><br />reb aron was a weak character, No back bone certainly not reb wasserman's or even the rav harashi of NY.<br /><br />. הכסף יענה את הכל<br />קטלאר קניאnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-91915583873081310812012-11-14T14:34:45.937-05:002012-11-14T14:34:45.937-05:00"Yes perhaps Reb Elchonon and Reb AAron did n..."Yes perhaps Reb Elchonon and Reb AAron did not deliver shiurim here but msot others did"<br /><br />Actualy, rav Aaron ALSO did. In around 1936 on a fundraising trip to the USA. Never againTwistelton-Twisteltonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-91596801640867118612012-11-14T11:10:01.354-05:002012-11-14T11:10:01.354-05:00schneur
this was last week, not last yearschneur<br /><br />this was last week, not last yearHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-42589558264223720862012-11-14T11:07:48.553-05:002012-11-14T11:07:48.553-05:00barry can you stick to one name per thread???
Than...barry can you stick to one name per thread???<br />Thanks! <br />still LOLING!truthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-25552853925770939822012-11-14T10:15:17.638-05:002012-11-14T10:15:17.638-05:00
YU is an אור ליהודים just like medinat israel is ...<br />YU is an אור ליהודים just like medinat israel is an אור לגוים <br /><br />היינו טעמא דשופר! היינו טעמא דמגילת עצמאות הצד השוה שבהם שניהם בקשו לקעקע ביצתן של ישראל סבא<br /><br />Barry Eichler IInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-83528204876264107192012-11-14T09:33:53.620-05:002012-11-14T09:33:53.620-05:00Shneur, your comment is fascinating.
"It has...Shneur, your comment is fascinating. <br />"It has become pretty well accepted that both Reb Yankev and Avi Ezri wre interested in accepting positions in YU."<br />Can you shed a little more light on this statement?<br />moshe moshelhttp://moshemoshel72.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-13296758893200634972012-11-14T09:21:07.534-05:002012-11-14T09:21:07.534-05:00Truth said: "Brother lotzi, I have no clue wh...Truth said: "Brother lotzi, I have no clue who you are brother, but keep it up!"<br /><br />The real Truth, Lotzi himself doesn't have a clue he is! a little scary but true!<br /><br />!בשוב ה' את שיבת ציון היינו כחולמים<br /><br /><br /><br />חונה המעגלnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-44302393690002293802012-11-14T07:24:47.846-05:002012-11-14T07:24:47.846-05:00Truth said: "Brother lotzi, I have no clue wh...Truth said: "Brother lotzi, I have no clue who you are brother, but keep it up!"<br /><br /><br />תרין רעים דלא מתפרשין <br />.שקר מיט שלימזל אינקBMG Bumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-23185821040312651132012-11-14T07:18:12.249-05:002012-11-14T07:18:12.249-05:00הירשל ציג said: לא שעיר אלא גדי
:רש"י מנחות
...הירשל ציג said: לא שעיר אלא גדי<br /><br />:רש"י מנחות<br />גדי היינו בחור, שעיר היינו זקן<br /><br />:ע"פ קבלה<br />בענין ב' שעירים הנזכר בפרשת אחרי מות הם סוד ב' אנשים מרגלים ב' מוחין חו"ב דקלי' נוגה<br /><br />מחלקת! החקירה והדקדוק<br />פוברסקי-כהנעמאן <br />.פאנ-א-וויטש, קאמפאניע<br /><br />שעירים מרקדיםnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-36789704749091631872012-11-13T18:55:49.606-05:002012-11-13T18:55:49.606-05:00Mr divrey sheker, blah, blah, blah
Lol!
Brother lo...Mr divrey sheker, blah, blah, blah<br />Lol!<br />Brother lotzi, I have no clue who you are brother, but keep it up!Truthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-51667679465752079082012-11-13T16:50:08.218-05:002012-11-13T16:50:08.218-05:00לא שעיר אלא גדילא שעיר אלא גדיHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-67158381891040784252012-11-13T16:48:38.560-05:002012-11-13T16:48:38.560-05:00Tibi Lotzi said: "I think that the Yismach Mo...Tibi Lotzi said: "I think that the Yismach Moshe in the Korban Mincha sidur writes that they dont do here Hefsek Tahara..."<br /><br />טויבער לאטצי וגונדא דילי' דליכא דידע לישנא בישא כמותם, ומשקר בכ"פ אף במילתא דעבודי לגלי' במומו פוסל, כי ונהפוך הוא! הישמח משה ז"ל כותב כי בימיו רוב מנין מהכלל ישראל הם שומרי תורה ומצות, ומבעיא לי' א"כ למה עדיין ב"ד לא בא! ותירץ מה שטירץ. אבל מה שהגס רוח דנן לא יודע שהיש"מ שבק לן כמו למאה ושבעים שנה, ומאז עד עתה אין לנו יום שאין קללתו מרובה מחבירו שמתחלת עם המשכילים ואח"כ הציונים והממשיכים אחריהם, הן הנה הי' באחרינו למעול מעל בד' עד שיצא העגל הט"ל הזה שפוער פיו ורוקד עם 'השעיר' לעזאזל עלי דשא על ראשי עם קודש בכל עת מצוא. וד"ב<br />דברי יציבnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-80050207076545813522012-11-13T15:22:40.021-05:002012-11-13T15:22:40.021-05:00I saw the Kaliver rebbe here at YU last year. HE...I saw the Kaliver rebbe here at YU last year. HE did not give a shiur in YU . he used a small BM in Rubin as a place where he saw individual students for broches and etzos. he may have delivered a pep talk, BUt a shiur ? Giving a shiur in YU is not somehting every rav can do the rpesent honholla are not bar debei chad yumas if you know what i mean...Next other rebbes have also visited yU like the Koidenover rebbe who also delivers a pep talk and gives out etzos and brachos. The Sadigorer was here also int he apt of Rav Goldvicht . It wa sa beautiful event.<br />Also before he became rebbe Reb Naftolche of Bobov ZTL was here at YU and rav Steinwurzel zTL gave an actual shiur in Nigle all in honor of Marcos katz a so called Bobover chasid.If anyone doubts it I ahve a special kuntres publsihed of this event right here at my desk with pictures shvartz af vais !<br />Before you get carried away about Reb Shimon , he actually was a rosh here for a year or so and vas hoben gefelt men like the Lomzher rav, Reb Dovid Lifshutz Reb Mendel Zaks , Reb Yeruchem Gorelik, Rav Lessin , vechuli ? The long time mashgicah here was Rav Zelmanowitz a Gerer chasid and rav of the Peylishe shtibel in Williamsburg Many European roshim delivered shiurim here at YU before the war.<br />It has become pretty well accepted that both Reb Yankev and Avi Ezri wre interested in accepting positions in YU .<br /><br />Yes perhaps Reb Elchonon and Reb AAron did not deliver shiurim here but msot others di.. and MORE. Let me just add that instead of sending 17 year old bachurim from OT to YU the people at 770 sent some serious senior roshi yeshiva(like rabbis Shapiro, Kalmanson, Shochet, Heller) here they could accomplish something otherwise its just more baloney.schneurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-51190234657144130212012-11-13T13:18:35.530-05:002012-11-13T13:18:35.530-05:00Meshugener
א"א כרך ב' דף קע"ז קע&quo...Meshugener<br />א"א כרך ב' דף קע"ז קע"ח<br /><br />What is that?Tibi Lotzinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-17863303760286480202012-11-13T11:02:28.788-05:002012-11-13T11:02:28.788-05:00נוכחתי בחדרו של רבי אלחנן כשבא אליו אחד
האישים הבו...<br />נוכחתי בחדרו של רבי אלחנן כשבא אליו אחד<br />האישים הבולטים מגזברי הישיבה ישיבת<br />יצחק אלחנן איל הון מפורסם גביר אדיר<br />ודיבר אליו עזות: אני שואל בפעם האחרונה האם<br />תקבלו הזמנתינו להגיד שיעור בישיבה שלנו או<br />תמשיכו לעמוד בסירובכם. אני מוסיף מוטב לזכור שבאתם הנה במטרה לגייס כספים …אני בעצמי מסוגל לנדוב סכום גדול מאוצרותי …לישיבה שלנו יש אפיסעס<br />בהרבה קהילות שתבקרו, רוב הרבנים למדו בעבר<br />אצלנו…ובגלל סירובכם העקרוני תגרמו<br />ל"אפיעל" שלכם נזק לא ישוער.<br /><br />לבסוף הפר רבי אלחנן שתיקתו ואמר: החפץ חיים נהג לומר שבכל עיר חייב להימצא משוגע עירוני "א שטאט משוגע'נר", היינו אדם בלתי שפוי המסוגל לדבר מחוץ לשיטה. מה<br />טעם, לפי שממנו בלבד יש סיכוי לשמוע אי פעם<br />את האמת בעת בזמן שאחרים לא מעיזים להשמיע אותה. ובכן אם זה גורלי למלא תפקיד של ה"שטאט משוגע'נר" בכלל ישראל שאינו כובש האמת בליבו, אינני יכול להתנהג אחרת. -א"א כרך ב' דף קע"ז קע"ח<br />שטאט משוגע'נרnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-85697205303416246062012-11-12T21:58:32.151-05:002012-11-12T21:58:32.151-05:00hes a bobover with chabad style rebbe worship. the...hes a bobover with chabad style rebbe worship. the two dont mix. Yanovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-29392008851791708152012-11-12T21:04:53.773-05:002012-11-12T21:04:53.773-05:00kyke?
did I get that right? It is so much fun resp...kyke?<br />did I get that right? It is so much fun responding to you I have to tell you. it is so easy to get your goat! (Tzig I should say)<br />LOL!Emes l'amitonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-19381828788459990382012-11-12T20:07:09.665-05:002012-11-12T20:07:09.665-05:00r` aron kotler, lubavitch, satmer, rabbi hutner, c...r` aron kotler, lubavitch, satmer, rabbi hutner, chzson ish, or even Rabbi soloveitchick from YU or harav shach, is on the lips from time to time, what they said or did.<br /><br />but nobody bothers or cares about bobov, he was suce a non factor, except for his few hundred chassidim, why do they try so hard to spread lies about reb shlomo.<br /><br />our `bobov chusid` is a true sample what bobov realy is a hoax, please don`t make bobov or reb sholom something he was not.daf yoimynoreply@blogger.com