tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post2898660038655689552..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: why I just don't careHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-76009914218556766792010-04-22T09:25:58.670-04:002010-04-22T09:25:58.670-04:00To YTS
My point is i want to know which lubavitc...To YTS <br /><br />My point is i want to know which lubavitcher shochtim Dayan abramski apointed <br /><br />Kind regards <br /><br />A.londoner<br /><br />by the way Reb S.B Raskin & Reb M Katzenelenboigen came to london after dayan abramski left londonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-17785543816645761212010-04-21T15:13:02.011-04:002010-04-21T15:13:02.011-04:00Londoner,
Raskin, Katzenelenboigen et al....
Wha...Londoner,<br /><br />Raskin, Katzenelenboigen et al....<br /><br />What's your point?<br /><br />YTSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-45152712428453580392010-04-21T15:13:02.010-04:002010-04-21T15:13:02.010-04:00Shneur,
The Rebbe clearly stated that the Beis Di...Shneur,<br /><br />The Rebbe clearly stated that the Beis Din is not to be called "Lubavitch" because it is NOT! It is for all toishvei hashchuna Lubavitch or otherwise, democraticlly elected(albeit at a time when there were more "veltishe" nevertheless there still are). That's why they lost many fans when they tried to mish zich in "world Lubavitch" issues etc. So, although, granted, choosing a rov is a big deal, still it's a CH issue, NOT lubavitch as a whole...<br /><br />YT SheiniAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-58261191943194407312010-04-21T11:16:48.152-04:002010-04-21T11:16:48.152-04:00Yonasan,
you have no idea what you are talking abo...Yonasan,<br />you have no idea what you are talking about,<br />Reb Zalmen Shimon was liked by everyone but almost didn"t wield his power, the Rabonim today are using their power often, and its natural that it causes volcanoes to erupt.<br />Do you really believe that when a Rov is chosen in CH they are looking for the person that has the lowest charisma in town? what a idiotic statementAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-85728292481375954652010-04-20T10:12:29.415-04:002010-04-20T10:12:29.415-04:00Reb Hirshel
It is ok with me and thanks
A. L...Reb Hirshel <br /><br />It is ok with me and thanks <br /><br />A. LondonerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-38002057329293462782010-04-19T16:05:59.248-04:002010-04-19T16:05:59.248-04:00Schneour,
There is no possibility of electing a tr...Schneour,<br />There is no possibility of electing a truly charismatic and normal rov in CH.The simple reason is the point you were trying to make "It could really effect Lubavitch" and that is the problem! If his stature is too great, there is the chashash of a new guy "usurping" the Rebbe.Both Meshichists and Anti's are against any new leader or competition, the few mevakshim who are really looking for leadership are very frustrated.I know that Rabbi Heller used to go the R'Hirsheleh Spinker in Williamsburg.<br />Anyone who knws a bit of Chabad and CH history knows that after R'Zalman Shimon Dworkin was niftar, Chabad took some very interesting turns.He was the last person of authority left from the old guardyonasannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-18837948233276228502010-04-19T09:49:02.832-04:002010-04-19T09:49:02.832-04:00a Londoner
I will ask the person who told me in t...a Londoner<br /><br />I will ask the person who told me in the past. Is that OK with you?Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-32938500040328789982010-04-19T09:48:08.955-04:002010-04-19T09:48:08.955-04:00Reb Hirshel Tzig
Reb
Hirshel
do yo know the na...Reb Hirshel Tzig<br /><br />Reb<br /><br />Hirshel <br /><br />do yo know the name of the Rosh Hashochtim in london or another names of shochtim in london who were Lubavitcher,<br /><br />Kind regards<br /><br />A. LondonerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-74298418144573818832010-04-18T18:33:18.079-04:002010-04-18T18:33:18.079-04:00maybe readers should turn to chabadrevisited's...maybe readers should turn to chabadrevisited's blog... its pretty boring if u're into politics, but at least he addresses chabad history in a fairly serious way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-81707694638360357712010-04-18T16:05:16.382-04:002010-04-18T16:05:16.382-04:00I don't claim I have my hand on the pulse of t...I don't claim I have my hand on the pulse of the present day Lubavitch in CH.<br />In most if not all other Orthodox communities from left wing MO to Yeshivishe communities, chosing a rav(of a shul or kehillo) is a big deal. the same was true in East Europe .<br />The choice of a rav was an important one. That personality was the major influence on how a kehillo would develop. When Prague chose Shir Rappaport as its rav that was the end of Prague as a Tora center.When the Ind. Kehillo in FFM chose rabbi YY Horowitz it sent a message to the adherents of Torah Im Derech Eretz.<br />I find the laid backness here on that subject amazing . You mean to tell me that the subject of who will be a rav in CH is of no importance. Perhaps that says more about Lubavitch of 2010 than anything else !<br />I think electing a charasmatic person could really affect Lubavitch.schneurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-35884177714096464972010-04-18T14:39:43.700-04:002010-04-18T14:39:43.700-04:00Schneour,
You hit it on the button!
Liked your jok...Schneour,<br />You hit it on the button!<br />Liked your joke about the Traditional shul.<br />Basically the only thing left to discuss on this blog is the foibles of the Snags.<br />Been there, done that.shuanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-59957878755263909502010-04-18T11:43:35.877-04:002010-04-18T11:43:35.877-04:00With all due respect , so we are not going to disc...With all due respect , so we are not going to discuss current affairs in CH or Lubavitch, we are not going to discuss Chabad history , so what is there left Iskafya, , Hishkashrus maybe the Rashab's hemshechim ,I guess the closest to Chabad is a discusion of Belz(agtr all the Rayaatz called Rav Ahron sear besari in at least one letter...) Its like the rav of a traditional shul who tried speaking on Shabbes, Tahara, kashrus etc but the president was unhappy , and siad don't speak about these things, so the rav frustrated remarked so what should I use as my theme , the president replied talk about Judaism ..schneurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-68549647672760663992010-04-16T16:25:28.310-04:002010-04-16T16:25:28.310-04:00Anon
"You asked ozdoba if he can produce anyd...Anon<br />"You asked ozdoba if he can produce anyday 4 volumes of avi ezri?? "<br />I don"t have to ask, he is a nice talmud Chochom big Masmidd and he wrote and printed alot of Torah.<br /><br />"By you guys avi ezri is nothing so what are you trying to prove? "<br /><br />who in the lithuanian universe will tell you different? that Maran was something unique? the yeshiva world is using the torah of the other Rosh, Reb ShmuelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-79130696890091180572010-04-16T16:11:24.157-04:002010-04-16T16:11:24.157-04:00Anon,
"their odd behavior made them into reje...Anon,<br />"their odd behavior made them into rejects to be picked up by those who are non selective"<br />is this a fact? or assunption?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-67020006895951526522010-04-16T12:27:41.186-04:002010-04-16T12:27:41.186-04:00if Wechter or G Zinner would have been quality to...if Wechter or G Zinner would have been quality to be Rabonim in their own right they would have been grabbed up in their local Kehilas, their odd behavior made them into rejects to be picked up by those who are non selectiveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-70621159706109315072010-04-16T12:17:21.035-04:002010-04-16T12:17:21.035-04:00I thought tzvei dinim was a Litvishe trick. How ca...I thought tzvei dinim was a Litvishe trick. How can you separate the reality of today's CH from the overall integrity of Chabad, the Rebbe, etc.<br /><br />Read the CH blogs, "All that we should be doing is giving the Rebbe nachas"<br /><br />Maybe the nicest thing one can say is " Chabad was once great, the Rebbe had the best of intentions, but CH was left unprepared, and we cleary see the consequences". <br /><br />Or, it is time for Chabad'tzkers to secede from CH. If only the big givers had a sense of what was going on in CH, they would be repulsed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-85753335388696575882010-04-16T02:58:36.457-04:002010-04-16T02:58:36.457-04:00The sad thing is that most of CH has long since mo...The sad thing is that most of CH has long since moved on as well.<br />the machloikus as to who will run the shul etc. has lead to many new kehilos opening in CH.<br />770 is a tourist attraction that shluchim and out of town guests visit. most erliche BB have started their own minyonim and sub kehilos.<br />so now 'if' sholom brakes out ... they can run an empty kehilah!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-49777930589258011372010-04-15T23:21:41.143-04:002010-04-15T23:21:41.143-04:00Talking about choices of Rabbanim....
Why was R M...Talking about choices of Rabbanim....<br /><br />Why was R Mendel Vechter stuck in Kiryat Malachi, rather than somewhere like Yerushalayim or Bnei Berak ??<br /><br />Was it more important that Satmar would not have him than making him a mashpia in some Chabad community ?<br /><br />Why didn't he just move to Crown Heights ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-50346259928202685922010-04-15T22:43:28.670-04:002010-04-15T22:43:28.670-04:00TOO FAR BACK!
Lets hear who is defining chassidus...TOO FAR BACK!<br /><br />Lets hear who is defining chassidus Chabad for the next generation....<br />The new sound bite people who deleted the chassdic terminology from the 28 Nissan sicha...<br />The cartoons over at chabad.org<br />Heichal Menachem<br />Jakey and Simon<br /><br />leaving out the Moshiach issue...<br /><br />All these Lubavitchers who at least think one of the above will not be in the same chassidus after a generation of divergence...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-40152044841900444152010-04-15T18:28:14.817-04:002010-04-15T18:28:14.817-04:00lets takke hear about the strashiler!!lets takke hear about the strashiler!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-17006510815518938532010-04-15T18:14:42.254-04:002010-04-15T18:14:42.254-04:00שקוע בגשמיות ובחומר, במקום לימוד של הק''ו....שקוע בגשמיות ובחומר, במקום לימוד של הק''ו.<br /><br />את הדרך אשר יכלו בה, לא חפצנו, ועל צער תלמוד חכם ליצנו.<br />אין לנו להשען אלא על אבינו, רק הואAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-14110758256885075732010-04-15T16:11:10.652-04:002010-04-15T16:11:10.652-04:00"Rav Ozdoba can produce anyday 4 volumes avi ..."Rav Ozdoba can produce anyday 4 volumes avi ezri if its needed to get a shtele ans prestige,Do you know any of these people?"<br /><br />Anonymous,<br />You asked ozdoba if he can produce anyday 4 volumes of avi ezri??<br />By you guys avi ezri is nothing so what are you trying to prove?<br />I can anyday produce zichroines fun labavitch rebb'nAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-49481115704539402022010-04-15T16:04:01.913-04:002010-04-15T16:04:01.913-04:00It seems that Tzig has realized what yours truly d...It seems that Tzig has realized what yours truly did a few years ago.<br />I realized that Crown Heights is not the center of the world.What it is is unfortunately an inner city neighborhood with a mostly ghetto population.It's high crime and very unpleasant.Even if you live in one of the nicer blocks you still need to get to and from work, davening, schools ,shopping etc..<br />The frum people are a mixture of people who are trapped in their poverty and cannot leave their subsidised apartments, Government help etc, baaley teshuva with "issues", stam single bummy boys and girls who know that anything can go in CH ,AND an element of well to do, baalabatishe people who need the nebs as a buffer against the ghetto chevreh.<br />I moved out and haven't looked back, besides sibling simchas.<br />That's why Monseys Lubavitch community has grown so much.<br />I don't care whatsoever about the infighting or the besdin in CH,ICH HOB THEY ALLEH IN BOD.Thankfully out of townnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-38766403167060711742010-04-15T15:32:58.436-04:002010-04-15T15:32:58.436-04:00Yidle,
was the din torah a litmus test on the geon...Yidle,<br />was the din torah a litmus test on the geonois of the Bies din? or solving a problem? Rav Ozdoba can produce anyday 4 volumes avi ezri if its needed to get a shtele ans prestige,Do you know any of these people?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-68362221337487196622010-04-15T13:40:46.295-04:002010-04-15T13:40:46.295-04:00Chevra,
Lubavitch discussions are verboten on the ...Chevra,<br />Lubavitch discussions are verboten on the blog because when you dig a wee bit deeper you hit problems.<br />Lubavitch is one big oylem hadimyon and this whole Beis Din in CH din toreh is a joke, any of thousands of good serious yingerleit in Eretz Yisroel and Lakewood surpass this pirem bes din.Only in Chabad could it have any prominence.R'Itzel Raitport, loz dech oop from your "shtelleh" this is no place for a real talmed chochemyidelnoreply@blogger.com