tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post3876820967228173462..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: ?איי איי איי! ר' בערל אויכעטHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-24899388252330568122009-12-14T22:15:38.648-05:002009-12-14T22:15:38.648-05:00a pushiter yid:
you are FULL of bs.a pushiter yid:<br /><br />you are FULL of bs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-79428692215852230932009-12-14T17:43:02.166-05:002009-12-14T17:43:02.166-05:00I am not a lubavicher but I just can't believe...I am not a lubavicher but I just can't believe there are still lakewooders out there who don't realize the big shtink RLS did to all of them. <br />the only reason most gedolim didn't come out against him was because they were afraid that he would do to them what he did to R' Michel, R' Greineman, R' dovid povarski, R' shimshon pinkus, etc.<br />besides a few hot heads in olam hatora, you don't see anyone identifying with maran's shita.<br />so why not accept happily what these RY are trying to do, and 'vish dich up' from the blota of the last 21 years.a pushiter yid from BSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-31570715073187160972009-12-14T16:29:44.786-05:002009-12-14T16:29:44.786-05:00davka in chabad where they stress watching what we...davka in chabad where they stress watching what we eat and what enters our body the latke fresseray is sickening. perhaps if there was a rebbe around as schneur always wishes the shluchim would not make such parties. halevai.hahahanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-28848552318988033472009-12-14T15:39:28.374-05:002009-12-14T15:39:28.374-05:00a general comment about this blog re some of the t...a general comment about this blog re some of the taynes mentioned above:<br /><br />it is true that hirsh tzig started this blog, kilshoynoy: "to provide a counter opinion to the Chabad bashing that is so prevalent in blogosphere." here tzig was referring primarily to the now-extinct blog by "tzemach atlas" called "mentalbog." (in fact, this blog used to be called "anti-tzemach.") <br /><br />in a way, tzig can shray "didan notzach," for "tzemach" (aka "ben") did pack up his site & went on to other, "more evolved" endeavors (see: benaltas.com) [i don't think failedmessiah.com fits this description, since it attacks all chareidim, chasidim & misnagdim alike.] <br /><br />but, as we know bisheym reb yoilish (v'yoel moishe): "a moised farmacht men nisht." (this is also why NATO still continues after the fall of the USSR.) so even though the prime siboh of this blog was botel, the march still goes on to (1) defend chabad from all hisnagdus, & (2) to be mefarsem the ma'ylos & shtoltzkayt of lubavitch. <br /><br />perhaps it is high time for the lakewooders to create their own "counter opinion" blog to repond to those who defame RAK, moron, ukadoyme.<br /><br />BTW, in the AR's letter about his near-visit to the VG he write that "v'dofaknu al daloysoy PA'AMAYIM" -- hence RYKs visiting the litvishe PA'AMAYIM.<br /><br />also, why is there no footage of RYKs visits to the chasidim (reb yisroelzke of viznitz et al.)? <br /><br />-- ZoroIslamoYidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-37387618270047504252009-12-14T08:55:01.460-05:002009-12-14T08:55:01.460-05:00kol haposel bmumo posel
YOSSELE, everyone is mara...kol haposel bmumo posel<br />YOSSELE, everyone is marar R, except for "kook"<br />who are you, are you even worthy of having a daeh on daas torah.<br />your lack of derech eret, not mentioning kovod hatorah, makes everything you represent<br />muktza machmas miuss.<br />do tshuvamercaz@mercaz.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-90260820990497896152009-12-14T00:53:54.690-05:002009-12-14T00:53:54.690-05:00if someone has time they can write a transcript of...if someone has time they can write a transcript of the story of how the AR almost met the VG as told to R Leibl Shaprio, by R YB Soleveichik.... was on living torah some time agoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-18238609010235497802009-12-13T22:39:39.422-05:002009-12-13T22:39:39.422-05:00First Anon
"כידוע, הסיבה לסירוב העיקש של ´הגא...First Anon<br />"כידוע, הסיבה לסירוב העיקש של ´הגאון´ להפגש עם בעל התניא"<br />you write Keydoa.<br />where exactly is that theory famous?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-50904003810980649032009-12-13T21:04:39.464-05:002009-12-13T21:04:39.464-05:00Shneur
if you talking Breslov they have no giants,...Shneur<br />if you talking Breslov they have no giants, who? kramer? Koeneg? Shick?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-78452217192207577492009-12-13T21:02:29.065-05:002009-12-13T21:02:29.065-05:00Shneur
"For the alst 4 weeks DER YID has cont...Shneur<br />"For the alst 4 weeks DER YID has continued blasting Chabad and the Rebbe?<br />that rag is so irrelevant these days, its only purpose today is the bury the other Titelbaum brother. the chabad bashing is just Minhag a Avoisinu BeyidaniAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-50476209926818476002009-12-13T16:27:26.037-05:002009-12-13T16:27:26.037-05:00So Chozer doesn't mean that he was chozer b...So Chozer doesn't mean that he was chozer b'teshuvah by visiting Ponevezh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-26985759263694844402009-12-13T16:01:51.465-05:002009-12-13T16:01:51.465-05:00Schneour,
I see you are an incurable optimist!
The...Schneour,<br />I see you are an incurable optimist!<br />There will never ever be a new Rebbe in Chabad Lubavitch.<br />I've been around the block many times and was one of the few youngsters to roam 770 in the early fourties so I know the cast.Hey, I knew Barry back than quite well, though he was older than me.Whatever the case Lubavitch will never have a new rebbe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-73763108997957412092009-12-13T13:52:14.652-05:002009-12-13T13:52:14.652-05:00Only by the hats does a picture of two old men dri...Only by the hats does a picture of two old men drinking tea and talking Torah turn into a sectarian brawl. Even Moslems need a better excuse than that.<br /><br />Hirshel, when will you learn that peace is a no-no in pre-Moshiach Judaism. No matter how many posts about reconciliation you write, all the various splinter sects have to treat each other like amalek and have milchemes Hashem midor dor.shelo asani charedinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-852338536949205232009-12-13T13:33:05.358-05:002009-12-13T13:33:05.358-05:00In pre War Lita there were no Marans who were inf...In pre War Lita there were no Marans who were infalliable. <br />Indeed there were 2 great Tora sages above all (Reb Chaim Eyzer, Chofetz Chaim ) but they led not dictated. Gedolim like the Marcheses and Rav Leib Poupko( many more also belonged to the mizrachi). Reb Leib aws president of the mizrachi in Poland ? Did he lack daas Tore too ? They also led with love not with hate, gaave and disdain. Both Reb Chaim Eyzer and the Chofetz Chaim cooperated with the Rayaatz and they both saw the important role Chabad people and bachurim played in the Kressy (that part of Lithuanian which became Poland after the First World war) I am sure there were rabbonim who still disliked Chabad and I am not bothered by that as long as the hatred did not become public policy. There were many Chabad people who disliked the Misnagdim too.The vaad hayeshivas had issues too as many Chabad people thought they discriminated against Tomche Tmimmim.But there was no public policy against Chabad.<br />Today its become public policy to hate Chabad in the israeli yeshivas. Instead of cooperating with chabad the yeshiva world have become toadies of Satmar with the roshim showing up at 21 Kislev celebrations, and their students in Israel saying the VaaYalle Moshe was correct. Tell me was this the psoition of any of the litvishe roshim before or after the war ? Did Rav Moshe attend the 21 Kislev parties ?For the alst 4 weeks DER YID has continued blasting Chabad and the Rebbe. Is that acceptable ?<br /><br />Truth be told in my opinion Chabad shares in this blame , but why should we be angry at the meeting of Reb Yale and the roshe yeshivas its a fine moment. <br />Just imagine if the Rebbe came to israel in 1990 do you doubt that most so called Lithuanian roshe yeshiva except for the Degel leader would want to talk to the Rebbe in lernen and in sichos chulin ?<br />Its time to think peace and forget the nonsense of the 1980's with the Aguda, Degel Chabad wars.<br />Finally I repeat my mantra and i know it sounds dumb, its time for Chabad to provide itself with serious official spiritual leadership. Let the chassidus be led by people everyone can respect like the current crop of leaders in Breslev.<br />Lets face it the shluchim and their understudies need spiritual leadership, they need chizzuk , they also need halachic guidance and guidance on a whole range of issues Many are young and have little experience and less Tore knowledge. Chabad needs to place a giant(s) at their helm..CH needs leadership and its time for Chabad to free itself from the hold of askanim and other machers.They have their place obviously but Chabad needs spiritual leadershp.schneurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-88681122414151241502009-12-13T13:03:02.283-05:002009-12-13T13:03:02.283-05:00Rav Kook Zt"l was one of the greatest gedolim...Rav Kook Zt"l was one of the greatest gedolim in his generation. Esteemed by the Gerrer Rebbe, R. Issur Zalman and many other gedolim. Was even respected by such kanoim as the Rayat"z of Lubavitch, who visited him in 1929, and the Brisker Rov, who wrote respectful letters to him. One of the biggest poskim in the world, great mekubal, boki in chassidus, mussar, and chakira. Esteemed in this generation by R. Shloma Zalman Aurbach and Rav Elyashiv. Even the Chazon Ish was OK with his non-hashkafa writings. The kanoim like the Minchas Elazar and the Satmerer Rov were in the minority.<br /><br />How the kanoim, like R. Amram Blau and others like, who had non of the qualities mentioned above, managed to hijack world opinion and make him persona non grata in the Torah world is one of the great mysteries of history. (I am not including the gedolim like the Satmerer Rov, etc.). It's time to rectify this injustice, and put the am ho'oratzim in their place.An Ailemeshernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-16897467329103233232009-12-13T07:26:47.548-05:002009-12-13T07:26:47.548-05:00Chaim Harvarder:
you are one of the relics - '...Chaim Harvarder:<br /><br /><i>you are one of the relics - 'chassidim' of R Kook</i><br /><br />I wish!<br /><br />PS. I'd rather go with Rav Shlomo Zalman's views on such matters than the warped revisionists who don't come to his ankles in tzidkus and yiras shomayim and dare drop his title. אוי להםIsaac Balbinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-90407088606194871682009-12-13T03:59:51.505-05:002009-12-13T03:59:51.505-05:00Amongst the many "vile and pernicious" c...Amongst the many "vile and pernicious" crimes that Lubavitch is accused of by it's detractors is it's lack of shaychus to the so called "Torah world".Now somebody comes along and tries to bridge that gap iz oichet nisht gut.It's some sort of evil conspiracy hatched by the "elders of Chabad" in the basement of that "den of iniquity", 770.anon3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-73479287320300449022009-12-13T03:39:15.152-05:002009-12-13T03:39:15.152-05:00"Hirshel, I just heard once again, on the Dov..."Hirshel, I just heard once again, on the Dov Hikind show, R. Anchelle Perl of Lubavitch in Mineola, Long Island, is promoting his telethon, and as part of it, a latke eating contest.<br /><br />What a chillul Hashem."<br /><br />Of course the recent Agudah fress fest in the presence and participation of the Moetzes and other "gedailim" is a kiddush Hashem.anon3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-28424534686393213162009-12-13T01:38:58.945-05:002009-12-13T01:38:58.945-05:00What happened in Chabad in the last generation is ...What happened in Chabad in the last generation is an unbelievable and fascinating story:On the one hand an amazing rebirth of a chassidus, which, though coming from a glorious past was on the ropes.Many followers had been lost to all the social upheavals,assimilation,Communist regimes .Additionally many with a Lubavitch past had become religous Zionists or sent their children to regular yeshivas.770 hardly had a minyan in the early '40's.Lubavitch, especially under the charismatic leadership of the late Rebbe managed to make a come back,attract wayward Lubavitchers from other yeshivos back to Chabad,turn Hungarians into Lubavitchers and bring in many others thru outreach.Numerous shluchim were sent out worldwide.<br />This is the pretty side.<br />The other side was the increasingly growing cult of personality aroung the Rebbe culminating with the Rebbe being announced as Moshiach while alive, and now with the Meshichist movement very loud and in your face about the Rebbe being alive and preaching a second coming.avremelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-77139530496476426922009-12-12T23:56:24.640-05:002009-12-12T23:56:24.640-05:00Yes something happened that every one else knew wo...Yes something happened that every one else knew would happen, except for R. Yoel and all other ziknei chabad. He and they acted irresponsibly and should be held accountable for the tragic results. As Rav Shach appropriately called them, "people without achrayus".An Ailemeshernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-16164994540810039982009-12-12T23:53:27.763-05:002009-12-12T23:53:27.763-05:00Hirshel, I just heard once again, on the Dov Hikin...Hirshel, I just heard once again, on the Dov Hikind show, R. Anchelle Perl of Lubavitch in Mineola, Long Island, is promoting his telethon, and as part of it, a latke eating contest.<br /><br />What a chillul Hashem. <br /><br />Promoting a contest that golorifies fresserai and bizoyon ochlin, and which is not healthy for people to stuff themselves with food rapidly. Is this Chassidus??? What would the Rebbe have said??snagnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-67479692806297394932009-12-12T23:41:38.245-05:002009-12-12T23:41:38.245-05:00Ailem,
something happened in the interim that cha...Ailem,<br /><br />something happened in the interim that changed his mind.Friendly Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-84227985077628256432009-12-12T23:40:05.175-05:002009-12-12T23:40:05.175-05:00Hirshel, why are you and other Lubavitchers so eag...Hirshel, why are you and other Lubavitchers so eager to get acceptance from the snags anyway???<br /><br />Having viewed and listened to the recordings with the chayzer and RALS and RBDP, 1) the quality of them leaves much to be desired, 2)the evidence doesn't support what you are promoting, the notion that there suddenly been a sea-change in attitude of the Litvishe velt to Lubavitch. The meeting with RBDP was just a reunion of old Yeshiva chaveirim, old classmates basically. As was stated previously, RALS didn't even know who he was presented with. Nothing much happened there. 3) Both events show the beautiful ahavas Yisroel and varemkeit of the snag leaders. Greater ahavas Yisroel than one sees by certain others. Those gedaylim were used, but still they were polite toward those who used them.<br /><br />Bottom line - your whole pshetl here is a pilpul shel hevel, wishful thinking, you wish there was such a change, but it hasn't happened. Isolated incidents under special circumstances, do not a seas change make.snagnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-88700814629692408042009-12-12T23:19:55.756-05:002009-12-12T23:19:55.756-05:00Just remember that R. Yoel was the main cause of t...Just remember that R. Yoel was the main cause of the moshichist movement and a source of the problems that Lubavitch has with other Hareidim. All these meetings can not erase that.An Ailemeshernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-61961512298938271622009-12-12T23:11:40.249-05:002009-12-12T23:11:40.249-05:00Isaac balbin, having noticed from your postings a...Isaac balbin, having noticed from your postings all over it seems that you are one of the relics - 'chassidim' of R Kook.<br /><br />Sorry old chap but you are fighting a losing battle. The fact that most of the gedolim of the previous generations were vehemently against him (really strong "Yemach-shmoy language) obviously meant and means a lot. And today - the talmidim and children of those greats who did accept/admire him - are also on the anti-Kook side. All his books - not only hashkafa (which even the Chazon Ish banned) are belo yeroeh velo yimotzeh in homes and yeshivos of ALL charedi Jews.<br /><br />And seeing the results and what has become from most of his talmidim and followers - just shows that the anti-Kook gedolim were SO right..Chaim Harvardernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-33109158076083581672009-12-12T23:08:54.776-05:002009-12-12T23:08:54.776-05:00Yehupitz,
To many "I" in your,kind of p...Yehupitz,<br />To many "I" in your,kind of pointless story.Quoting yourself is also a no-no,if you want people to take you seriously.Ralphnoreply@blogger.com