tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post4538534248852777569..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: Changes (Part III)Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger80125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-18488193962817137342008-01-21T09:32:00.000-05:002008-01-21T09:32:00.000-05:00Amazed is obviously completely out of his mind.Amazed is obviously completely out of his mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-65511048173628315892008-01-20T20:42:00.000-05:002008-01-20T20:42:00.000-05:00no.G-ott tzu danken.no.<BR/><BR/><EM>G-ott tzu danken.</EM>Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-6411360188526046392008-01-20T17:41:00.000-05:002008-01-20T17:41:00.000-05:00Tzig,So did you get the post with questions ?Tzig,<BR/><BR/>So did you get the post with questions ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-63838081142499408132008-01-19T18:52:00.000-05:002008-01-19T18:52:00.000-05:00i am reading this and wonder to myself - do amost ...i am reading this and wonder to myself - do amost people here ever spoke to a godol or read about them in some artscroll books.\<BR/>a few points: anonymous - if you call the Lbavichder Rebbe by all kinds of names - why do go crazy when he misses out "Rav"<BR/>Gidel - i dont know what kind of Gerrer are you but the gerrer chassidim were much more upset with Rav Shach then Lubavitch and i wont repeat the names they called him bizmanoi. i remember when the Leiv Simcha introduced daf yoimi in yerushalmi ( which lubavicher rebbe supported as he supported all positive hatzoes ) and Rav Shach said about Leiv Simcha zt"l "un bavli ken er?". i was by knessia hagdola in the beginning of mems and R Sahch gehaltn mitn reidn and the gerrer chassidim asked him to stop for a minute so the gerrer rebbe can come in a bakovodikn way. he refused the 500 big gerrer brought the rebbe in singing "sei sheurim roishaichem " and he had no choice but to stop. it was flam fayer betwwen the 2.<BR/>3. about meshichistn - they bother only the real misnagdim who were always misnagdim. i l lwrite later what the pnei menachem said to someone who tried to knock the belief of lubs that the rebbe is moshiach after his passing.<BR/>finally anyone who knew the relationship between the rebbe and r yoel wouldnt write the rubbish i am readingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-91165659867267674382008-01-18T13:45:00.000-05:002008-01-18T13:45:00.000-05:00Where do you see passion there? Just a statement o...Where do you see passion there? Just a statement of fact.Guravitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09903833477421514457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-15278915333310636302008-01-18T03:22:00.000-05:002008-01-18T03:22:00.000-05:00''He was mevaze my Rebbe in public. Live with it.'...''He was mevaze my Rebbe in public. Live with it.''<BR/><BR/>Sir,<BR/>You seem to be making my point that since you are so passionate about the issue you cannot deal with it rationally.<BR/><BR/>Btw, what do you mean by 'live with it'??<BR/>All I said was that if you 'allow' yourself to be disrespectful so another persons godol beyisroel for whatever reason, THAN, you cannot have any 'taynos' if THEY speak disrespectfully of your rov.<BR/>Is it that hard to get?Is it that hard to realize that to discuss issues there has to be a some basic 'rules' first one would be talk about the person with the most basic respect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-37566235160213086002008-01-17T21:38:00.000-05:002008-01-17T21:38:00.000-05:00He was mevaze my Rebbe in public. Live with it.He was mevaze my Rebbe in public. Live with it.Guravitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09903833477421514457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-38258222632578098472008-01-17T11:53:00.000-05:002008-01-17T11:53:00.000-05:00sorry for being choished(bepsulim ?);If I knew you...<EM>sorry for being choished(bepsulim ?);</EM><BR/><BR/>If I knew you to have a sense of humor <EM>Volt ich efsher gelacht,</EM> but that's not the case.Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-47413489701048298712008-01-17T11:50:00.000-05:002008-01-17T11:50:00.000-05:00ok, sorry for being choished (bepsulim ?); seems t...ok, sorry for being choished (bepsulim ?); seems that a post got lost in between.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-77194485483578022172008-01-17T10:47:00.000-05:002008-01-17T10:47:00.000-05:00NatchalnikIf I had a "censor nature" I'd censor 90...Natchalnik<BR/><BR/>If I had a "censor nature" I'd censor 90% of what you write. Do I? no. So stop crying that I censor. What end are you talking about, and why do you think I do Berele's bidding?Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-89364401002602131842008-01-17T10:44:00.000-05:002008-01-17T10:44:00.000-05:00tzig, did your censor nature take over at the end,...tzig, did your censor nature take over at the end, or were you doing berele's bidding ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-76688737148212647512008-01-17T09:53:00.000-05:002008-01-17T09:53:00.000-05:00>>No Lubavitcher believes Shach got anything right...>>No Lubavitcher believes Shach got anything right, and Shach made it very personal. Moshiach Sheker is not personal?! <BR/><BR/>Its Rav, you worthless animal. And all antis agree with him, whether they want to acknowledge the fact that he was right or not. And every other Jew in the world outside of Chabad agrees with him, too. <BR/><BR/>Because of animals like you, the Rebbes worth in the world went down. Thank you for bringing down a great man so that you can get out your anger against gedolei yisroel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-13803107274705265482008-01-17T02:45:00.000-05:002008-01-17T02:45:00.000-05:00GuravitzerYou sound very emotional and passionate ...Guravitzer<BR/>You sound very emotional and passionate about the subject, but try and debate this rationally.<BR/><BR/>Another thing, just for the sake of mentlichkait, do you think you could manage to call him Rav Shach?You see, though many Lubavitchers dislike him, he still has thousands of talmidim and admirers and they must be hurt when you address him so.Also you have to *think* for a sec:If you can call him whatever you want, you are giving all the Misnagdim a carte blanche to call the Rebbe whatever they want,right? So how can Lubavitchers have 'taynos' to others for being disrespectful of the Rebbe,I mean Tzigs whole post was about him getting into fights defending Lubavitch against the other kids anti Lubavitch name calling calling.So, had Tzig been in a Lubavitch chaider and heard little kids call Rav Shach names he would have become a Snag!Which would also make his decision to become Lubavitch something that was not based on Lubavitchs' own merits.<BR/>Lastly, if you feel that you cannot discuss the issue without being overcome by the need to be nasty and insulting don't comment on this subject, there are many other parev subjects where you can join into the discussion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-85133756085388842522008-01-16T22:46:00.000-05:002008-01-16T22:46:00.000-05:00No Lubavitcher believes Shach got anything right, ...No Lubavitcher believes Shach got anything right, and Shach made it very personal. Moshiach Sheker is not personal?! <BR/><BR/>Being that there is no such thing as mainstream orthodoxy, your point is moot.Guravitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09903833477421514457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-6320159223199436422008-01-16T20:00:00.000-05:002008-01-16T20:00:00.000-05:00Tzig:I need an honest response from you, please,ok...Tzig:<BR/>I need an honest response from you, please,ok?<BR/>There is a lot of talk here vis a vis Rav Shachs' position on the Rebbe (alz interesentkait, I think Lorenctz in his book, yeah, the one you used about the story with R'Yaakov, brings that Rav Shach said tehillim on the Rebbe when he was ill.The machloikess they had was not personal)But here is the question:Many of the Anti-Meshichist faction have said very similar things about the Moshichisten, i.e according to them, without mentionining his name ,Rav Shach got it right.<BR/>Do you have anything to add to this?.<BR/>Happens to be that almost everyone in Mainstream Orthodoxy, today at least agrees that Lubavitch went to far, especially with the Moshiach campaign.To be honest, I'm still under the terrible impression made by Rabbi Kalmanson on motsoie shabbos on the Zev Brenner show, so though I'm a Gerrer I have to agree that Rav Shach was right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-44126849434029512892008-01-16T18:42:00.000-05:002008-01-16T18:42:00.000-05:00I detect a crack in your steadfast belief that it'...I detect a crack in your steadfast belief that it's all a figment of my imagination. <EM>Nu, Nu; Tzubislach.</EM><BR/><BR/>So now we're being Mechalek between those that do egregious sins with a Rebbe picture and those that do it without. <EM>Yesh LeAyen BoZeh,</EM> Although I don't recall Shechter or Boteach holding the Rebbe's picture when they preach. Maybe in your dreams they do.Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-70284539611302200512008-01-16T18:38:00.000-05:002008-01-16T18:38:00.000-05:00You can start by saying that whether or not there ...You can start by saying that whether or not there are people who commit egregious sins, very few do so holding up a picture of their Rebbe, and frankly I'm not aware of anyone advertising homosexualism in the name of sigeter, or declaring him to be a neie getschke. An intellectual dwarf like you will probably not grasp what I'm talking about. Reread the given hisvaduyos and recharge in your love for fellow yid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-35821469735947474022008-01-16T18:36:00.000-05:002008-01-16T18:36:00.000-05:00Listen Khaver:If it'll make you feel better than b...Listen Khaver:<BR/><BR/>If it'll make you feel better than believe that it's all in my "wild imgination." But if you'd like I can hook you up with a guy who'll give you all the information you need to bust that bubble you live in. What gets me is how you accuse me of not being exposed to the "real Lubavitch," yet are clueless as to the real goings on in the real world.Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-39221856579667205392008-01-16T18:33:00.000-05:002008-01-16T18:33:00.000-05:00What can I say, other than "you're naive."What can I say, other than "you're naive."Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1629565435176033262008-01-16T18:30:00.000-05:002008-01-16T18:30:00.000-05:00Really ? You can't do any better then then default...Really ? You can't do any better then then default standard of wholesale slandering (which is just an admission of defeat) ? The people guilty of A"Z kepshuto, Giluy Aroyos Kepshutom, even Retzicha kepshuto all in the name of the b' hisvaduyos (not to mention the gratuitous kefirah, lies and slander they keep perpetuating) - they're equal to a ONE presumable non-existent Satmarer on a "business trip" that never happened other then in the wild imagination of a spinker oisvorf ?<BR/><BR/>This is so pathetic, it's a waste of traffic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-85070688444105721682008-01-16T18:20:00.000-05:002008-01-16T18:20:00.000-05:00how deep did they drag?Not as deep as ONE Satmarer...<EM>how deep did they drag?</EM><BR/><BR/>Not as deep as ONE <EM>Satmarer</EM> on a "business trip" to the Far East......Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-52880254914368127592008-01-16T18:18:00.000-05:002008-01-16T18:18:00.000-05:00I don't expect you to know, but sinse Mykolayev is...I don't expect you to know, but sinse Mykolayev is in Klein Reissen, it's name in klein-reissisch is somewhat logical.<BR/><BR/>I haven't read those op-eds; if this indeed references R' Sender's op-eds, it's the only memory of them that's left. Not too bad, given that history has proven how right R' Sender turned out to be, and how venomous can some people's Ahavas Yisroel be. <BR/><BR/>And if the rebbes get shlepped so low, between Baranes, Sokolovsky, Milshteyn, Tzig+Berel & Co, Shmuley Boteach, Zalman Shechter and all the other good people who amongst themselves have done every "mitzvah " possible - how deep did they drag?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-10714876237209329102008-01-16T18:07:00.000-05:002008-01-16T18:07:00.000-05:00The baal-hisvaduyos seems to say here that people ...<EM>The baal-hisvaduyos seems to say here that people who do abuse in the name of their Rebbe shlep their Rebbe down to their place. קריינא דאיגרתא איהו ליהוי פרונקא ?</EM><BR/><BR/><EM>Ich bin Maskim.</EM>Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-27329550440411667262008-01-16T18:04:00.001-05:002008-01-16T18:04:00.001-05:00Berl hut meyreh fun dayn "Zeiden's" K'peydes....<EM>Berl hut meyreh fun dayn "Zeiden's" K'peydes....</EM>Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-420019343568283712008-01-16T18:04:00.000-05:002008-01-16T18:04:00.000-05:00WHY would we care what a Ukranian city is called i...WHY would we care what a Ukranian city is called in Klein Reissisch?<BR/><BR/><EM>Reb Sender Zchuso Yogen Olov</EM> was a good man, but his editorials were some of the worst hack jobs man has ever known. His lexicon is what drives Satmar today, they all learned from him, all the <EM>Pashkvill Schreibers.</EM><BR/><BR/>I would bet that he was the one that called it a <EM>festival,</EM> it goes very well with his usual style of writing.<BR/><BR/>So there.Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.com