tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post5627270370334374470..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: קאמענטארען זענען איבעריג...Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-5715373484317406922014-01-21T19:59:02.184-05:002014-01-21T19:59:02.184-05:00i am sorry i have a day occupation. will finish i ...i am sorry i have a day occupation. will finish i have to say bkorovnew to the scenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-11070799244260937222014-01-21T15:24:07.362-05:002014-01-21T15:24:07.362-05:00New to the scene, chickened out of answering the t...New to the scene, chickened out of answering the tough questions. Must be stuck on repeat listening to the vorka song on the other post. שיכור ולא מייןnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-81447924396901050702014-01-20T13:31:13.168-05:002014-01-20T13:31:13.168-05:00The RebbeThe RebbeRabosinienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-61497245116380611042014-01-20T12:20:32.869-05:002014-01-20T12:20:32.869-05:00Who coined the phrase נשיא הדור? Who coined the phrase נשיא הדור? אבותינוnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-82270212444656461622014-01-20T11:09:20.832-05:002014-01-20T11:09:20.832-05:00I pity your soul. You are demonstratably far from ...I pity your soul. You are demonstratably far from the basic chasid the baal hatanya writes about. You are lucky if you can live up to the tolerance of Vorka און גאט נישט דערצערין. וכו' וכו Not a Harrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-36963305932316800122014-01-20T11:05:39.815-05:002014-01-20T11:05:39.815-05:00Nu? Nu? Not a Harrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-77637813473689698812014-01-17T11:58:38.055-05:002014-01-17T11:58:38.055-05:00Serious questions abound. Answers are quite lackin...Serious questions abound. Answers are quite lacking. Not a Harrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-14435099492413721472014-01-17T08:20:48.789-05:002014-01-17T08:20:48.789-05:00Just for the record: Several chabad Rebbe had &quo...Just for the record: Several chabad Rebbe had "hagaon ha'eloki" in the description on matzeva. The FR's did not, and our Rebbe himself had once said, that his avodah was not in nigleh (the mesirus nefesh and maaseh bpoeil, chassidus in Russia). <br /><br />A particular chosid (heard this from a family member of his), who wasn't fully comfortable with Chabad, once expressed in yechidus some taynos he had. He said the FR didn't have nigleh. The Rebbe then randomly took a bichel of the FR's chassidus off the shelf and opened it, showing this fellow some chidushim in nigleh therein. (I'm not sure if it was 5708, where he's choiker a whole inyan in basar bchalav in middle of maamar. But I heard there's several such instances). And the Rebbe fihred is, that it just wasn't his inyan. <br /><br />Now my 2 cents: The TzTz for example in his time, it was nogeia tzu veizn nigleh, against the maskilim and to have the Torah velt's "front" united.<br /><br />The Rebbe's matzeva indeed has those words added in, as by his predecessors, and as concluded by ziknei hachassidim to do so, and as was apparent in his hanhoga.Ben Eliezernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-39629424425727411112014-01-17T02:19:52.837-05:002014-01-17T02:19:52.837-05:00Yanover... I have read all breslov seforim and hav...Yanover... I have read all breslov seforim and havn't seen this quote... Please bring sourceSuberb of warsawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-11941984031897206992014-01-16T20:07:47.886-05:002014-01-16T20:07:47.886-05:00מענה ק' מכ"ק אדמו"ר זי"ע
בערך ת...מענה ק' מכ"ק אדמו"ר זי"ע<br />בערך תשמ"ו<br /><br />כבכל אדמור"י חב"ד היסוד הראשון:" ביטול היש (מתחיל מעצמו) באמיתית. היות אדמו"ר ה"ז שליחות נפשית ועיקרית, לנהלם ולעודדם בתומ"צ בכלל (מתחיל באמונת ה' שמירת השו"ע וכו') ולהראותם דוגמא חי' בזה (עד כדי מסירת נפש בפועל) ופשיטא לשלול כל פעולה שיוכלו לטעות לפרשם להיפך. לאחר זה באים חייו בתור פרטי וגם בזה יסוד שלא נוגע כלל בתפקידו הכללי והעיקרי...."<br />"הראי' העיקרית והשוללת כל הטענות שכנגד: מכתב המוריש רשמית דשייך לאגודת חסידי חב"ד. הקס"ד אולי כתב רק לפנים (היינו טיפשות) והאומר כן זהו חילול השם הכי גדול ועד כדי כך שהאומר כן (במזיד) צריך להיות ברמ"ח ר"ל. ובסגנון אחר (ועיקר): כל התעודות רשמיות, מכתבים וכו' כותבים במפורש דשייך לאגודת חסידי חב"ד – הטענות שכנגד הם דברים שבע"פ סתם".<br /><br />before anyone freaks out remember the מאמרי חז"ל: <br />כל החולק על רבו כאילו חולק על שמים<br />and many others<br /><br />Tonight i am busy. The continuation of how the Rebbe can be נשיא after gimmel tammuz etc etc etc will בעזה"י come motzei shabbos or sunday. <br />(Is anyone actually interested in a answer?) <br /><br />new to the scenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-55113048456199275132014-01-16T19:46:35.448-05:002014-01-16T19:46:35.448-05:00Yanover
"you do know that rbbe nachman, the B...Yanover<br />"you do know that rbbe nachman, the Baal Shem Tov's grandson, said that the Baal HaTanya was flat out wrong on numerous points in his tanya, that conflict with the teachings of the baal shem tov, and the toldos etc. "<br /><br />B.t.w. before the רמב"ם there were אמת'ער גדולי ישראל who held that G-d has some sort of גוף. If you don't believe me look in the ראב"ד על אתר. But now after the Rambam was מגלה that, you will be hard pressed to find a orthodox rabbi who won't call you a כופר if you say so. <br />[and בית שמאי said בית הלל was straight out wrong - אלו ואלו וכו- but...]<br />After the Baal Hatanya was מגלה to us חסידות חב"ד that is the derech for all yidden. See what is happening in the world. Thousands of people are turning to חסידות חב"ד. Zalmen Gopin has tens of polishers a week come to him. י"ט כסלו in binyanei hauma Etc. Etc. <br />There was and will always be מחלוקת'ין in כלל ישראל. If it is לשם שמים then אלו ואלו. Nevertheless there is one derech that is the way Yidden are supposed to go.<br />(And b.t.w. with Rebbe Nachman, most -almost all- of talmidei habesht strongly disagreed with him. סתם)B.t.w.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-19936097102346944322014-01-16T16:24:04.641-05:002014-01-16T16:24:04.641-05:00Yanover
"you do know that rbbe nachman, the B...Yanover<br />"you do know that rbbe nachman, the Baal Shem Tov's grandson, said that the Baal HaTanya was flat out wrong on numerous points in his tanya, that conflict with the teachings of the baal shem tov, and the toldos etc. "<br />Does Reb Nacman claim to be the real student of the Besht? I am not sure, he said he is much much much much biggerYankel Shtiechelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-42088499447934790602014-01-16T16:14:09.338-05:002014-01-16T16:14:09.338-05:00Until my parents dor it was the Rebbe. I'm 18,...Until my parents dor it was the Rebbe. I'm 18, who is doing it now? Who is doing it until moshiach comes? Kingstonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-23930138573774524952014-01-16T15:27:33.336-05:002014-01-16T15:27:33.336-05:00I think some of these new people commenting here a...I think some of these new people commenting here are insane. <br /><br />you do know that rbbe nachman, the Baal Shem Tov's grandson, said that the Baal HaTanya was flat out wrong on numerous points in his tanya, that conflict with the teachings of the baal shem tov, and the toldos etc. <br /><br />So one can only know the Besht through tanya? how do you explain that rebbe nachman who grew up in the house of the Besht said such things? (fyi he was friends with the baal hatanya).Yanovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-59177248740879233552014-01-16T15:18:49.459-05:002014-01-16T15:18:49.459-05:00Sorry for the rant, was tired last night.
To addre...Sorry for the rant, was tired last night.<br />To address the issues:<br />First we must realize that the ענין of נשיא הדור is not a simple ענין to be decided by anyone. We must look into what the Rebbe said and wrote. (Again to say the Rebbe was lying or exaggerating would be saying he was ח"ו a faker and not a Chabad Rebbe, because ענינים כאלה are היפך בתכלית of a Chabad Rebbe. - see the מענה I will bring in a later comment -)<br />In very very short and without most of the details, the Rebbe explains in ואתה תצוה that the inyon of a נשיא is to be משפיע דעת באלקות. <br /><br />In משה רבינו's time it was done in one way, in מרדכי's time it was done in a different way וכו. The בעש"ט started חסידות הכללי which was the דרך for that דור. The Alter Rebbe revealed חסידות חב"ד which was the next step. <br />-With regards to the question about the other דרכים, there was a similar מצב at all times of yiddishkeit. The תנאים and אמוראים had different דרכים in עבודת ה. Even though אלו ואלו דברי אלוקים חיים, there is always one main דרך that is what all yidden are supposed to follow, in this case LEARNING חסידות חב"ד (not necessarily being a lubavitcher but learning)<br />In our דור, it was done by the Rebbe. <br />לא נשלם הענין<br />more to come later...... new to the scenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-39624896986141078122014-01-16T15:15:12.199-05:002014-01-16T15:15:12.199-05:00Sorry for the rant, was tired last night.
To addre...Sorry for the rant, was tired last night.<br />To address the issues:<br />First we must realize that the ענין of נשיא הדור is not a simple ענין to be decided by anyone. We must look into what the Rebbe said and wrote. (Again to say the Rebbe was lying or exaggerating would be saying he was ח"ו a faker and not a Chabad Rebbe, because ענינים כאלה are היפך בתחלית of a Chabad Rebbe. -see the מענה I will bring in a later comment-)<br />In very very short and without most of the details, the Rebbe explains in ואתה תצוה that the inyon of a נשיא is to be משפיע דעת באלוקות. <br />In משה רבינו's time it was done in one way, in מרדכי's time it was done in a different way וכו. The בעש"ט started חסידות הכללי which was the דרך for that דור. The Alter Rebbe revealed חסידות חב"ד which was the next step. <br />-With regards to the question about the other דרכים, there was a similar מצב at all times of yiddishkeit. The תנאים and אמוראים had different דרכים in עבודת ה. Even though אלו ואלו דברי אלוקים חיים, there is always one main דרך that is what all yidden are supposed to follow, in this case LEARNING חסידות חב"ד (not necessarily being a lubavitcher but learning)<br />In our דור, it was done by the Rebbe. <br />לא נשלם הענין<br />more to come later...... <br />new to the scenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-83184687350571558502014-01-16T14:25:50.646-05:002014-01-16T14:25:50.646-05:00rashi
"Are you comparing both coffins? "...rashi<br />"Are you comparing both coffins? "<br />call the Chevra Kadishe, they would know the differenceYankel Shtiechelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-22290627320993038122014-01-16T14:24:14.528-05:002014-01-16T14:24:14.528-05:00Paylishe
"You consider the Rebbe as the exclu...Paylishe<br />"You consider the Rebbe as the exclusive Means of learning Tanya? Rather preposterous. How did people learn Tanya until The Lubavitcher Rebbe came on to the scene"<br />How did people learn gemora before Rashi?<br />Yankel Shtiechelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-51088174580417236642014-01-16T14:22:11.159-05:002014-01-16T14:22:11.159-05:00Rashi
Beautiful derush especially of the 3rd rebbe...Rashi<br />Beautiful derush especially of the 3rd rebbeYankel Shtiechelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-53348006460501234302014-01-16T14:15:23.338-05:002014-01-16T14:15:23.338-05:00Belzer Torah is no shayches to toras habesht? What...Belzer Torah is no shayches to toras habesht? What is it? רש"יnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-73121447417497578412014-01-16T14:13:39.644-05:002014-01-16T14:13:39.644-05:00Are you comparing both coffins? Are you comparing both coffins? רש"יnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-52440838750236305272014-01-16T14:02:47.004-05:002014-01-16T14:02:47.004-05:00You consider the Rebbe as the exclusive Means of l...You consider the Rebbe as the exclusive Means of learning Tanya? Rather preposterous. How did people learn Tanya until The Lubavitcher Rebbe came on to the scene? We've been learning it wrong for 150 years?paylishenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-44292144726461976592014-01-16T13:02:57.095-05:002014-01-16T13:02:57.095-05:00Paylishe
"No other דרכים in תורת הבעל שם טוב ...Paylishe<br />"No other דרכים in תורת הבעל שם טוב are legitimate?"<br />You can not be a Chosid of the Baal Shem Tov if you never learned Tanya with the biurim of the rebbe. If after you learned the above you still choose to be affiliated with Belz or Viznitz you can be there. But there is no question that for instance being a chosid in Belz by learning Tur Bies Yossef and Belzer Torahs, you have not touched the Klamke of the Besht.Yankel Shtiechelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-44802676799453138762014-01-16T12:33:31.023-05:002014-01-16T12:33:31.023-05:00Spreading ahavas yisroel and chasides is what Rav ...Spreading ahavas yisroel and chasides is what Rav Moshe Weinberger is doing. Is he your nossi? Talmid Rabeinunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-16316720704326697832014-01-16T12:29:12.774-05:002014-01-16T12:29:12.774-05:00What is
גילוי אור החסידות?
I thought that was do...What is <br />גילוי אור החסידות? <br />I thought that was done already in mezbuzh by the Holy Baal Shem? <br /><br />If the Rebbe is admittedly in gan eden, who is doing it here and now? לשיטתך it's twenty years. Ignorance is blissnoreply@blogger.com