tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post7032526496197755556..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: Az M'Lebt DerLebt men......Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-41476925702662718952007-05-18T15:58:00.000-04:002007-05-18T15:58:00.000-04:00Thank you, Ross.Thank you, Ross.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1068809920680727952007-05-18T09:22:00.000-04:002007-05-18T09:22:00.000-04:00I have no idea what the last comment was about, no...I have no idea what the last comment was about, nor do I understand what the Zichron Yosef has got to do with Ariel.<BR/><BR/>No "outstanding <EM>Talmidei Chachomim"</EM> endorse what Ariel opines. Period.Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-17935988756588472042007-05-18T08:02:00.000-04:002007-05-18T08:02:00.000-04:00No answer . . . hmmm . . . (and no, I am not talki...No answer . . . hmmm . . . (and no, I am not talking about the colossal prick, hmmm).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-27811019683225607762007-05-11T12:38:00.000-04:002007-05-11T12:38:00.000-04:00The question I have is about specific people and t...The question I have is about specific people and their views. I know the incredible respect the Zichron Yosef has for the Rebbe. I know of the limitless respect I have for the Rebbe, too. I am just asking where he fits in the ideaological line with respect to his view on the rebbe. If Ariel is a yuchid, fine. If outstanding talmidei chachomim endorse him (or not), I want to know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-65413673041739404232007-05-11T08:53:00.000-04:002007-05-11T08:53:00.000-04:00No answer to my question?No answer to my question?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-73324962020338773532007-05-10T16:36:00.000-04:002007-05-10T16:36:00.000-04:00Can somebody here tell me how a thread about HM Lu...Can somebody here tell me how a thread about HM Lubavitchers got back to Ariel?!Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-81298889162713120902007-05-10T16:34:00.000-04:002007-05-10T16:34:00.000-04:00Ariel is not all of Lubavitch.Yet.But , yeah, it's...Ariel is not all of Lubavitch.Yet.<BR/>But , yeah, it's scary because he started out a meshichist, and if you check out some of their stuff, it's wacko, so I see where he is coming from.The problem is that the meshichists are a strong voice in Lubavitch an apologists for them abound including members of the Crown Heights Beis Din.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-75688066060999302822007-05-10T14:20:00.000-04:002007-05-10T14:20:00.000-04:00He quotes the Rebbe alot. I was just wondering if...He quotes the Rebbe alot. I was just wondering if he would believe in any of that stuff. I got really shaken up about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-23260745742012851012007-05-10T14:16:00.000-04:002007-05-10T14:16:00.000-04:00I was talking about the Zichron Yosef, not Ariel.I was talking about the Zichron Yosef, not Ariel.Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-89623389996510195562007-05-10T14:03:00.000-04:002007-05-10T14:03:00.000-04:00>>tell us more; what are you seeing there? Saying ...>>tell us more; what are you seeing there? <BR/><BR/>Saying Hashem's name is muttar, for one, because Mashiach is here. And his reference to the Rebbe--whose works and personality I very deeply revere--as the Rebbe Almighty. His blog is called RebbeGod. <BR/><BR/>With all my admiration to the Nasi HaDor and Tzadik of our times, I find that disturbing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-74665620263496587972007-05-10T12:57:00.000-04:002007-05-10T12:57:00.000-04:00Ok, here it is from the mouth of the "ferd" himsel...Ok, here it is from the mouth of the "ferd" himself. It's interesting how some of you (especially the illustrious Rav Hirshel) are so quick to pass judgement on people they have never met. Hirshel, you have no idea what we're about, what HM is about and - if I'd have to go by what seems to be your bitter hatred of your fellow Jews - you likely haven't a clue what Chassidus is about. Ironic then that you find yourself so qualified to perform such a thorough analysis of all these 3 subjects, no? <BR/><BR/>But at the end of the day what you say about me and the other Teiheads in either direction is fine and we likely owe you one for the free PR. What does bother me though, hirshel, is that you are so quick to condemn an entire international frum community assuming that they are "at fault" for the actions we take and highly recommend us for frum kids to listen to.<BR/><BR/>The truth of the matter is that we don't even recommend OURSELVES to frum kids (unless they are kids who have already been turned off by people like you, Hirshel, and are starting to get involved in the Goyishe HM scene and need to be redirected to Nichoyach). As far as the Chabad Kehilla, they tolerate us just like they do the Meshugener who sits in the corner talking to himself and laughing at imaginary things on the ceiling, i.e. unlike you they are not willing to discount us as Yidden just because we have flaws. <BR/><BR/>To Chabad, the choices in my particular scenario are likely something like: is it better to have a guy who keeps Shabbos, Kashrus, Taharas Hamishpacha, etc but has a flaw of being involved with the HM world or is it better to push him away and announce him "Oys Yid". Luckily, Chabad goes with the former approach while you would seem to favor the latter. <BR/><BR/>I bless you Hirshel that the Eibershter not judge you as you judge others. <BR/><BR/>Mendel of TeihuAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-69170534898018592452007-05-10T09:53:00.000-04:002007-05-10T09:53:00.000-04:00anonymous (9:42am)tell us more; what are you seein...anonymous (9:42am)<BR/><BR/>tell us more; what are you seeing there?Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-79246845002476412932007-05-10T09:42:00.000-04:002007-05-10T09:42:00.000-04:00The Zichron Yosef . . . anyone know his position? ...The Zichron Yosef . . . anyone know his position? Its not like Ariel's, right? (I am going through one of his seforim now on Sotah).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-16942228617035695922007-05-10T05:26:00.000-04:002007-05-10T05:26:00.000-04:00The Sheichet's father actually is a very Chassidis...The Sheichet's father actually is a very Chassidishe yid with a web site disseminating Chassidus...<BR/><BR/>http://www.thewellsprings.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-60421310764398963082007-05-10T05:17:00.000-04:002007-05-10T05:17:00.000-04:00Hello... I'm from PGH and these guys are not kids....Hello... I'm from PGH and these guys are not kids. They're all over thirty and 'Bear' is a middle aged doctor with a kid that must be ten already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-66575070306261531492007-05-09T23:28:00.000-04:002007-05-09T23:28:00.000-04:00Yeah, seven doros of mesiras nefesh just to see th...Yeah, seven doros of mesiras nefesh just to see these four "tmimimim". Itcheh Der Masmid is just kvelling with nachas from up in ginzei meromimim.........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1899329136511473072007-05-09T19:18:00.000-04:002007-05-09T19:18:00.000-04:00I think Hirshel is wrong by trying to disown this ...I think Hirshel is wrong by trying to disown this guys from Chabad, the are not bad yisishe kinder, he is getting off from the rebbes path in Ahavath Yisroel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-68275846898798349212007-05-09T17:56:00.000-04:002007-05-09T17:56:00.000-04:00Hmmm, Thank you. His blog really frightens me.Hmmm, <BR/><BR/>Thank you. His blog really frightens me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-39987897735041964632007-05-09T17:14:00.000-04:002007-05-09T17:14:00.000-04:00Ariel has about 4 people with him. Maybe.Ariel has about 4 people with him. Maybe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-50976283144647270832007-05-09T17:13:00.000-04:002007-05-09T17:13:00.000-04:00This group of kids are not particularly ultra-chas...This group of kids are not particularly ultra-chasidish, and don't do this out of chassidishkeit. They need an outlet, and heavy metal is theirs. They are not particular heros or played up in their communities. The references to Chasidus are more tongue in cheek. This isn't Matisyahu.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-51181769254036672992007-05-09T16:47:00.001-04:002007-05-09T16:47:00.001-04:00Tzig. Your Ungarische background comes out betwee...Tzig. Your Ungarische background comes out between the lines.<BR/>You can discern between the authentic Pnimiyuth of Lubavitch and chadoshim Lebekorim bau.<BR/>I admire your writing and most of your comments concerning the Matisyahu phenomenom ; I too wrote abut this last year.<BR/>I am not part of the contemporary Chabad society and I do not know whose "fault" anything is . One just does know that you see Chabad rock stars, boxers, feminists , Kabbalists selling their "wares" vechuli.<BR/>What does all of this mean ? It means very little if its not played up in the PR world , if it is it is "sam hamaves" for the whole Chabad society.<BR/>In the 1920's there was a Jewish Hitman a gangster who was Shomer Shabbath and had the nickname "never on Saturday ".<BR/>I gather that today if he existed some elements in Chabad would play him up and call it a kiddush hashem !!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-33658458486844547602007-05-09T16:47:00.000-04:002007-05-09T16:47:00.000-04:00Zezhow so?Zez<BR/><BR/>how so?Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-33712222144159208172007-05-09T16:43:00.000-04:002007-05-09T16:43:00.000-04:00Hirshel, I see that Tzemach was right takeh about ...Hirshel, I see that Tzemach was right takeh about you after all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-6968849842211292982007-05-09T16:40:00.000-04:002007-05-09T16:40:00.000-04:00On an unrelated topic: What is the deal with Ariel...On an unrelated topic: What is the deal with Ariel Sokolovsky? Are his ideas as mainstream as he suggests them to be? <BR/><BR/>I ask as a fan of Lubavitch, but, to be frank, he's weirding me out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-19738721906053201572007-05-09T16:06:00.000-04:002007-05-09T16:06:00.000-04:00I really didn't know what you're talking about; es...I really didn't know what you're talking about; especially with words like <EM>want's</EM> (sic) <BR/><BR/>You're beginning to write like a BP/Willy/CH <EM> am ho'oretz,</EM> putting apostrophes where they don't belong.<BR/><BR/>So what you're saying is that's a good thing that he likes HM yet still chooses to retain all his Jewish/Chassidic affiliations?Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.com