tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post7965731517458211232..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: Teach Them GirlsHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-27935597455681323492008-09-23T20:58:00.000-04:002008-09-23T20:58:00.000-04:00Rebbetzin, you already received your answer. There...Rebbetzin, you already received your answer. There is no obligation for women to know these things. They needed to know what they needed to know, no more. And to know that, they didn’t need to know how to read and write.<BR/><BR/>Men too, by the way: the secrets of Kabbalah were not revealed to the masses, until there was a need for them to be revealed, and even then, there was an opposition, as all Lubavitcher know. So, in a sense, all men except for a selected few were illiterate throughout the history, as far as certain ideas in Judaism were concerned — and the texts carrying these ideas were designed so that the majority would be illiterate regarding them.<BR/><BR/>Now, I don’t think with women it was quite the same case: they were not kept illiterate purposefully; there were limited resources, and they were spent on those who had obligation to know how to read and write. It’s the same discussion as with any other thing women were not part of throughout history.<BR/><BR/>In our days, the times have changed, because the world has changed. Things that were unacceptable before for Jews (not just women, men also), became acceptable and necessary for yiddishkeit to survive. That includes women getting education — which is why the Rebbe, for example, was a big supporter of good education for the girls.Anarchist Chossidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129716759837282565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-50809907045944722262008-09-23T20:20:00.000-04:002008-09-23T20:20:00.000-04:00I guess i think differently than most of the blogg...I guess i think differently than most of the bloggers here cuz i liked this post.<BR/>Can't say it was earth shattering but it stimulated something other than the mouth (or in this case hand). <BR/><BR/>Anonymous 4:06.<BR/>Literacy is not purely utilitarian. G-d gave ALL of us a mind to be used.<BR/>How would you be able to spout bittul, kabalos ol, atzmus etc. if you couldn't read or write?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-77800071452487546222008-09-22T01:43:00.000-04:002008-09-22T01:43:00.000-04:001. It’s really funny when Jews who did not receive...1. It’s really funny when Jews who did not receive formal higher education (and normally show no respect to academia because of their background) take something said by some “specialist” as the Emes. This is what education gives you: skepticism. It’s like when mail arrives: you identify spam by a mere look; you don’t sit and read through another credit card offer or a furniture commercial. When in need of a credit card or new furniture, you search through other channels.<BR/><BR/>2. Nu-nu, what’s knew? Read Mendele, Sholom Aleichem, Peretz and all those other self-hating Jewish writers of the time. This is where it all started.<BR/><BR/>Naivete par excellence.Anarchist Chossidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129716759837282565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-14803950212141164692008-09-21T20:41:00.000-04:002008-09-21T20:41:00.000-04:00Tzig said,"it amuses me how people like you decide...Tzig said,"it amuses me how people like you decide what I would write without me ever having written anything of the kind."<BR/>Shaifele,anything we decide you MIGHT post would never do justice to describing the brainwashed garbage only a guy like you actualy DO post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-10989127290108314152008-09-21T16:38:00.000-04:002008-09-21T16:38:00.000-04:00Gidelit amuses me how people like you decide what ...Gidel<BR/><BR/>it amuses me how people like you decide what I would write without me ever having written anything of the kind. I guess you feel guilty that you and your kind killed a 52 year old man, eh?Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-38946783584784171492008-09-21T16:28:00.000-04:002008-09-21T16:28:00.000-04:00Breaking news!!!!!!Snags kill Lubab!!!!!!The Snags...Breaking news!!!!!!<BR/>Snags kill Lubab!!!!!!<BR/>The Snags<BR/> are well known murderers 200 years ago they already used chasidims blood for their matzos<BR/><BR/>Now again a 'da'as teyreh' so called 'rov' has not allowed the donation of organs to a Lubavitcher rabbi who subsequently passed away.<BR/>The 'snag' rov is 'quoted' as saying that Lubab are worse than dogs!<BR/><BR/><BR/>The above is a parody of the type of dreque, the Tzig would post.<BR/><BR/>I have no idea if the rov that did not allow a transplant is a snag, I don't know who it is and I offer heartfelt condolences to the family.<BR/><BR/>What pissed me off was that I already saw some pos Chbsdker tuchas 'spokesman'looking to blame a rovs psak for the tragic passing, I also know that the Tzig is cut from the same cloth as the pos 'spokesman', so this is just an unedited version of the post the Tzig will surely put up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-33131756804945924562008-09-21T15:34:00.000-04:002008-09-21T15:34:00.000-04:00While his nesius was a Peylisher , Rav Yosef Yitzc...While his nesius was a Peylisher , Rav Yosef Yitzchak was probably still very much the Chabad Litvak in his private life.<BR/>The Rashab called his son - Mein peylsiher bederech Zechok as he was a grandson of Reb Yosef Yitzchok of Avretch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-53447123997791409482008-09-21T15:12:00.000-04:002008-09-21T15:12:00.000-04:00zzzzzzzz. Wake me up when you post something even ...zzzzzzzz. Wake me up when you post something even a little more intresting than this. (even if its total nonsense and ilogical, like your "mussar bombshel" post).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-88103353676719101482008-09-21T14:47:00.000-04:002008-09-21T14:47:00.000-04:00למה הדבר דומה? זכורני בילדותי, ברחובות בני-ברק המט...למה הדבר דומה? זכורני בילדותי, ברחובות בני-ברק המטונפות של תשמ"ט, כשהדרך מהחיידר אל הבית היתה רצופות מריבות עם הילדים הגעררעס. מה עשינו? צעקנו בקול גדול "גור לזבל". היינו גזעניים? לא. היינו ילדים. ידענו שאנחנו הטובים והם הרעים. נוסחה פשוטה של מוח ילדותי.<BR/><BR/>This describes you so well.<BR/>When will you mature and see things in a multi dimensional world, where you won't automatically say He is a Lubavitcher (or Yankee fan)=good he is a farshinkeneh Snag (or Mets fan)=bad?<BR/>Judge things on their merit or lack therof, not on the size of the beard or whether they drink only Cholov Yisroel, though their rov sanctions their practice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-55361077914713063852008-09-21T14:39:00.000-04:002008-09-21T14:39:00.000-04:00TzigYou wrote a post and want people to respond .D...Tzig<BR/>You wrote a post and want people to respond .Do you want brown nosed 'chanifeh'?<BR/>The post is of no interest to almost everybody.The fact that some Lubavitcher rebbitzen wrote it notwithstanding.If someone was so interested they could easily visit the Chabad sites that discuss this material, although even there there are few takers.<BR/>Don't try with a guilt trip about what I did after selichos.<BR/>The fact is that you have your bunch of sugar coating Lubab chevreh who never tell you the truth and never give you constructive critiscm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-57067804814477260922008-09-21T03:35:00.000-04:002008-09-21T03:35:00.000-04:00RubinI imagine you went to selichos at 1 am, came ...Rubin<BR/><BR/>I imagine you went to selichos at 1 am, came home and saw this post. Is that the best you can come up with after saying selichos?!Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-18879507663856948862008-09-21T02:47:00.000-04:002008-09-21T02:47:00.000-04:00Tell me, who gives a flying fig about this boring ...Tell me, who gives a flying fig about this boring post?Does anybody care if some rebbitzen could write loshon kodesh or not?<BR/>Is their anything remotely earth shattering about it?<BR/>Also you show your peasant roots but telling us about your illiterate female (and possibly male..)ancestors.<BR/>Where educated and intellectual Jews came from the women folk could read and write.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-16102281430018455232008-09-19T18:23:00.000-04:002008-09-19T18:23:00.000-04:00G-d forbid anyone thought this was a blog for adul...G-d forbid anyone thought this was a blog for adults. :) The level of maturity is on the level of teenagers, despite the fact that adult issues are being discussed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-82617672263991557812008-09-19T16:06:00.001-04:002008-09-19T16:06:00.001-04:00anonymous 3:20Thanks, it has since been corrected....anonymous 3:20<BR/><BR/>Thanks, it has since been corrected.Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-9242936047321114532008-09-19T16:06:00.000-04:002008-09-19T16:06:00.000-04:00Scr-- scholars and historians. Not everyone, but t...Scr-- scholars and historians. Not everyone, but those that say this bull----. They come from a field in which one does not use scientific method. They are prejudiced. They are ultra-liberal. They are tolerated by the rest of academia, because the alternative to what they are saying is impossible for atheists to accept.<BR/><BR/>What does knowing how to sign your name have to do with anything? Why does a man need to know how to read or sign his name in the Middle Ages? Two reasons: to make parnasah (not a peasant) and to learn Torah (so, L”K only). None of the two applied to women. They received Oral tradition of how to be the engines of their families. When the times changed, the customs changed.<BR/><BR/>Less gaivah. More bittul and kabbalas ol. We are not here to learn how to sign our name. We are here to do our little mission to unite Atzmus O”ES with gashmius. Women were nothing? We are all nothing. Even now. (And some of use are takeh gürnischt.) There is only one something — only one Ich in the Universe.<BR/><BR/>Are you really a Lubavitcher? Are you sure?..<BR/><BR/>— V.<BR/><BR/>P.S. On the other hand, if this was a provocation post — good job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-90427623892285690562008-09-19T15:20:00.000-04:002008-09-19T15:20:00.000-04:00Reb Hershel I didnt know this was an adult blof wh...Reb Hershel I didnt know this was an adult blof where you allow comments with words that wouldnt be alolowed to be aired on radio.<BR/>Example: anonymous Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:26:00 PM .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-64978877436868456282008-09-19T11:27:00.000-04:002008-09-19T11:27:00.000-04:00Well my Hungarian Mother A"H, Grandmothers and Gre...Well my Hungarian Mother A"H, Grandmothers and Great Grandmothers A"H all wrote yiddish beautifully. True - they were all from Rabbunishe heizer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-81858517092580303062008-09-19T10:15:00.000-04:002008-09-19T10:15:00.000-04:00The pendulum has swung. Witness the school shut-do...The pendulum has swung. Witness the school shut-down in Lakewood recently because SIX girls were not going to high school. In the good old days, one imagines that all the schools would be shut down if six girls WERE going to high school :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-27908850767682171032008-09-19T01:11:00.000-04:002008-09-19T01:11:00.000-04:00Yawn.......Yawn.......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-39543863809660432122008-09-18T18:44:00.000-04:002008-09-18T18:44:00.000-04:00The Rebbe's mother, Rebbetzin Chana also has her m...The Rebbe's mother, Rebbetzin Chana also has her memoirs, and for those of us out there that believe in the Zichronos, we see even more evidence of learning, even further in the past!Mottelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00582397390892396507noreply@blogger.com