tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post979049819811845269..comments2024-03-06T12:52:47.385-05:00Comments on Circus Tent - הירשל ציג'ס בלאג: what to do on Shabbos in Willy if the Cholent won't let you sleepHirshel Tzig - הירשל ציגhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08911009966581004937noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-64366245805097169722011-05-16T12:02:36.047-04:002011-05-16T12:02:36.047-04:00"Is Reb Yoelish family feuds so clean that th..."Is Reb Yoelish family feuds so clean that they afford to besmirch the Klausenburger ruv?"<br /><br />yes the klusher was his NephewAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-18865083994634245862011-05-11T18:17:37.510-04:002011-05-11T18:17:37.510-04:00Anon
"The Chazon Ish, The Brisker Rov, The Tc...Anon<br />"The Chazon Ish, The Brisker Rov, The Tchbiner Rov, Reb A Kotler,Reb Y Hutner"<br />because they spoke to him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-47365652732573515152011-05-11T16:26:19.627-04:002011-05-11T16:26:19.627-04:00Anon
The Satmar Rov Zt"l was considered in a...Anon<br /><br />The Satmar Rov Zt"l was considered in a different league by The Chazon Ish, The Brisker Rov, The Tchbiner Rov, Reb A Kotler,Reb Y Hutner,and by (almost)every Tom,Dick and Harry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-56421998220505182512011-05-11T15:37:15.535-04:002011-05-11T15:37:15.535-04:00Anon
"The Satmar Ruv z"l was of a differ...Anon<br />"The Satmar Ruv z"l was of a different league altogether"<br />Different in what???????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-10766997242005009592011-05-11T15:16:12.548-04:002011-05-11T15:16:12.548-04:00Anon
Just one simple question for all the Satmare...Anon<br /><br />Just one simple question for all the Satmarer out there, <br />Is Reb Yoelish family feuds so clean that they afford to besmirch the Klausenburger ruv?<br />Was the Sasover his SIL? or the Sigeter his nephew? <br />I can't believe that there are still Satmar that are rumor mongering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-87299863416231533592011-05-11T13:22:41.774-04:002011-05-11T13:22:41.774-04:00Its sickening to hear all these ghastly rumors whi...Its sickening to hear all these ghastly rumors which were spread by Satmar regarding the Klauzenburger z"l prewar private life. I know for a fact that his second marriage was of a very healthy nature. Many of these rumors were being fabricated by guys who the Klauzenburger z"l had to beg to put on Tefilin at the DP camps. Once they came to the US and switched parties, they tossed the Klauzbuger to the cleaners.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong. The Satmar Ruv z"l was of a different league altogether. His caliber was a though one to compete with. But the Klauzenburger was a giant in his own right. A Gaon Betoireh,and a big Oved Hashem and yes, he was a very colorful character and rather unpredictable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-31909780594800004682011-05-11T11:55:58.211-04:002011-05-11T11:55:58.211-04:00This hotline is proof of the revisions that I am r...This hotline is proof of the revisions that I am referring to.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-56046848894404921322011-05-10T22:00:43.030-04:002011-05-10T22:00:43.030-04:00קול השבת
646-862-2900קול השבת<br />646-862-2900Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-27265418893950123772011-05-10T20:16:38.803-04:002011-05-10T20:16:38.803-04:00Anon -
"yes he was his BIL he knew him well a...Anon -<br />"yes he was his BIL he knew him well and he chased him out from his 'yeshiva' with a cane/stick! I heard this from many eye witness he dispised him."<br /><br />I heard this tall tales many times. I think that someone should write a thesis on Stamar story telling. It’s a scholarly desideratum. It’s remarkable considering the fact that Rav Yoel did not believe any stories. I remember people citing this story to prove that the Klausenberger rebbe was crazy. I think it only proves that Rav Michoel Dov was a little mad. In any case, if there is any truth to this story (but I believe that it’s fiction) there was a family power struggle between the two of them.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-62827426838106348862011-05-10T19:50:03.530-04:002011-05-10T19:50:03.530-04:00Anon-
“David said... (or tipish said) you quoting ...Anon-<br />“David said... (or tipish said) you quoting the wrong tshivu keep turning the pages and you will see one separate tshviu i think only one page long where he retracts and writes that he has no more saying on this topic and he is not a posek 'bemukom gedolim al tamud' sorry, but your hate creates your blindness as seen here in your inuendos!”<br /><br />Groise yingele, I reiterate I quoted the last teshuvah (see the dates) regarding eruvin. In any case, from your quote it’s clear you don’t know his teshuvos from the original only from the Yalkut Michzavim. It is irrelevant that Rav Michoel Dov stated in his later teshuvos that he won’t pasken since he said that he is not issuing a p’sak even in his first teshuvah. So my dear groise yingele, your argument does not prove that he retracted at all, since he maintained that he was not going to pasken from the get go. However, Rav Michoel Dov was very much involved in establishing eruvin and even drew maps of Brooklyn detailing alternative ways to establish one. Up until lately Rav Michoel Dov was always considered a major advocate for eruvin. You are a revisionist, and not a good one at that.<br /><br />“ps: And what you write that he wanted reb yonusen z”l involved, that has to do because the klusher.. whom he hated .. got involved.. and he wanted to circumvent the politics of the time.. vedal.”<br /><br />Now you are kleina yingele. The Klausenberger rebbe was never involved with the 1949-1962 Manhattan eruv or the Williamsburger eruv. This is simple revisionism. You have no proof to this spurious claim. No, Rav Michoel Dov wrote explicitly why they should involve Rav Yonasan, just read the piece I quoted. It has nothing to do with Klausenberg at all. You never answered the fact that Rav Yonasan Steif was active in establishing an eruv for Manhattan and Williamsburg. I know what your revisionist mind is thinking – the derasha. However, there is a haskamah after this so called derasha were he clearly demonstrates that he supports these eruvin (see Kuntres Tikkun Eruvin Manhattan; there are also many other proofs).Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-77566624337771507482011-05-10T19:00:18.503-04:002011-05-10T19:00:18.503-04:00Anon
" that has to do because the klusher.. w...Anon<br />" that has to do because the klusher.. whom he hated .. got involved.."<br />Ein Kietz Ledivrie ruachAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-40602393286815081352011-05-10T18:58:54.287-04:002011-05-10T18:58:54.287-04:00Anon
"Was this rift part of the Satmar charac...Anon<br />"Was this rift part of the Satmar character assassination and lynch or was this on a personal level?"<br />Coming from Willi, I can vouch you, that no tactic was hold back to smear the great Tzadik of Klausenburgh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-39602641399358341062011-05-10T18:56:39.667-04:002011-05-10T18:56:39.667-04:00Anon
"I heard this from many eye witness he d...Anon<br />"I heard this from many eye witness he dispised him"<br />I think the problem is, that the eyewitness despised the Klausenburger, and the story was fabricated, so go back to the nursing home and search out this eyewitness, after wiping off his runny nose, <br />Tell him in his face "di bizt a alter shakran" and then call his aide to wheel him back to the porch to chatch some flies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-30915562092427921042011-05-10T18:25:20.003-04:002011-05-10T18:25:20.003-04:00wow, this "rift" between RMBW and his BI...wow, this "rift" between RMBW and his BIL is news to me.<br />It proves that no one is immune from what Jews do best, i.e. fight amongst themselves.<br />The only recent ones who might have been immune, and I'm not sure of them, are R Moshe and the Chofetz Chaim. Maybe Chazon Ish too, it doesnt appear any Chasidishe Rebbes would appear on this list, maybe Skulener or some other B-List Rebbes.BelzFinAMoolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-43943173185400775042011-05-10T14:57:16.269-04:002011-05-10T14:57:16.269-04:00"Was this rift part of the Satmar character a..."Was this rift part of the Satmar character assassination"<br /><br />is bin laden dead? did he crash the towers?<br /><br />listen fool get out of your stupididty than will talk, bye.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-71170857272785795052011-05-10T14:18:03.884-04:002011-05-10T14:18:03.884-04:00Didn't know the BIL paid a visit to the Yeshiv...Didn't know the BIL paid a visit to the Yeshiva Farm Settlement.<br /><br />Was this rift part of the Satmar character assassination and lynch or was this on a personal level?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-60274792151541052062011-05-10T14:06:47.235-04:002011-05-10T14:06:47.235-04:00RMB chased 'him' and about SR as shadcen w...RMB chased 'him' and about SR as shadcen well.. lets not go there now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-71730221495937394362011-05-10T14:04:32.984-04:002011-05-10T14:04:32.984-04:00Who chased who???
Rumor has it that RMB was the s...Who chased who???<br /><br />Rumor has it that RMB was the shadchan and asked the SR for "information".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-67084018520080398372011-05-10T13:59:30.685-04:002011-05-10T13:59:30.685-04:00Anon 126
yes he was his BIL he knew him well and ...Anon 126<br /><br />yes he was his BIL he knew him well and he chased him out from his 'yeshiva' with a cane/stick! I heard this from many eye witness he dispised him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-60453206464068772792011-05-10T13:50:42.027-04:002011-05-10T13:50:42.027-04:00Anon 126
The who?? Wasn't he his BIL??
Never...Anon 126<br /><br />The who?? Wasn't he his BIL??<br />Never knew there was family rift.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-42469473022715134442011-05-10T13:26:47.302-04:002011-05-10T13:26:47.302-04:00David said... (or tipish said) you quoting the wro...David said... (or tipish said) you quoting the wrong tshivu keep turning the pages and you will see one separate tshviu i think only one page long where he retracts and writes that he has no more saying on this topic and he is not a posek 'bemukom gedolim al tamud' sorry, but your hate creates your blindness as seen here in your inuendos!<br /><br />ps: And what you write that he wanted reb yonusen z”l involved, that has to do because the klusher.. whom he hated .. got involved.. and he wanted to circumvent the politics of the time.. vedal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-1702855332236439182011-05-10T13:10:16.266-04:002011-05-10T13:10:16.266-04:00Anon -
The Gemara’s klal, “kol milsa d’avidi l’igl...Anon -<br />The Gemara’s klal, “kol milsa d’avidi l’igluyey lo meshakrei bah enashei,” is not referring to Satmar. They can argue that it’s day when it’s night.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-3987532585419891152011-05-10T12:58:11.473-04:002011-05-10T12:58:11.473-04:00Anon -
Clearly you can’t read. The last teshuvah R...Anon -<br />Clearly you can’t read. The last teshuvah Rav Michoel Dov wrote (Toras Chemed, siman 3, dated September 8, 1951) was in support of a Brooklyn eruv. What Rav Michoel Dov meant by שנתלה הדבר להלכה באשלי רברבי was not that the Stamar rebbe was already involved only that Rav Yonasan Steif is at this time involved in the matter. This is what Michoel Dov wrote in his first teshuvah (Toras Chemed, siman 1) אלא לדבר דבור הנוגע למעשה, ובענין זה יש לי עצה טובה. ידענא בי' בגברא רבא, זקן ויושב בישיבה, ובעל הוראה מפורסם ע"פ דרכי הוראה של מרן הח"ס ותלמידיו זי"ע, הגאון האמתי וצדיק תמים, מוהר"ר יונתן שטייף נ"י שיש לו כח דהיתרא לשם שמים. טוב הדבר למעשה להכניסו בהוראה זו <br />Please don't try to rewite history.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-12073319082925042972011-05-10T11:40:35.383-04:002011-05-10T11:40:35.383-04:00to: David'l
the gemorah says thinks that can ...to: David'l <br />the gemorah says thinks that can be proven otherwise people don’t lie about them! well youre behind the pail.. go read them AGAIN.. maybe this time you will see them.. He retracts from what he said earlier and states that he is not competent to involve in this issue!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13084425.post-51194155099650886582011-05-10T11:36:07.473-04:002011-05-10T11:36:07.473-04:00"I challenge you.."
you dont have to cha..."I challenge you.."<br />you dont have to challenge me just read a t'shivou (response) written by reb micuel ber z"l himself and printed in his sefer "toras chemed" that he retreats from what he wrote earlier about an erev in williamsburg read 1-2-3 times until you to will get it BYEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com