Menorah That!
A response to mentalblog: menorah special in Ukraine
Same Menorah, different head of State. There's also the round vs. rectangular Menorah issue. Otherwise it basically looks the same. But Rabbi Saks is a quasi-Chabad BT so maybe there is that underlying wish to belong.
I guess immitation is the best form of flattery after all.
COL
Where did this new minhag come from, to give menoras to non-Jews ?
ReplyDeleteWhat else would you give him, a Knish?
ReplyDeleteI know it's been done מימות פרעזידענט רעיגן
Give him a mezuzah! That tradition goes back to Rebbi.
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ReplyDeleteahh, yes, but what resale value does a Knish have?
Milhouse
with a Mezuzah you run the risk of him/her chucking the scroll and keeping the case....
so just give the case
ReplyDeleteI'm not giving anything. If I do I'll think about your suggestion.
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Why isn't a chossid farbrenging on tes-yud kislev???
ReplyDeletethose chasidishe lines from toras shalom on the side of your blog almost make me vomit, please take them off. Learn to distinguish between chol and kodesh.
ReplyDeleteR'Jonathan Sacks a quasi-Chabad bt?I know he was not a regular yeshiva bocher but I think he was always frum.He is not Chabad but had a relationship with the Rebbe and e ven wrote a book based on the Rebbes sichos.
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ReplyDeleteI'm sorry you feel this way, really. Try some Alka-Seltzer, pal.
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ReplyDeleteYou speak because you know, or you're just assuming so?
I happen to know that he was a member of a Chabad Shul in London for many years. I did say quasi.
He writes in Torah Studies that is was the Rebbe who encouraged him to study to be a Rabbi (in a yechidus).
ReplyDeleteIt is told that the Rebbe personally paid his way in the Rabbinical College he went to.
Maybe someone else can provide more info.
>Where did this new minhag come from, to give menoras to non-Jews
ReplyDeleteIt's cheaper than the old minhag, of giving a sepher Torah, which goes back at least to the 3rd century Roman emperor Severus and continued well
Fred:
ReplyDeletewhy then would they scrape together all that cash in the old days, when it could be used for better purposes, especially to buy a Sefer Torah which may end up being desecrated by the non-Jew, or at least not be cared for properly?
Jews were despised minorities who had to foster the best possible relations with the authorities that they could and sometimes that meant presenting them with special gifts, like a sepher Torah.
ReplyDeleteI don't think there really was a concern that these siphrei Torah would be ill treated. Only complete philstines would ill treat beautiful handwritten manuscripts. In fact, you can sort of gauge how boorish a person or a society is by how it treats beautiful objects like that.
Re: chucking the scroll and keeping the case, I don't think Rebbi gave Ardeban a case, just the scroll itself. If there had been a beautiful case, Ardeban wouldn't have complained about the cheapness of the gift. And obviously Rebbi knew him well enough to trust that he wouldn't chuck it out or desecrate it, especially after he explained how valuable it really was.
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