Monday, December 8, 2008
Same House - Different Result
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The Nikolsburger Rebbe, residing here in Monsey, has seemingly made a name for himself. When I was growing up talk among my Satmarer friends was that he was a clown - if you'll excuse me. That's the way people spoke of him, as if he were some cult leader. He was a Satmarer talmid, a Benon Shel Kedoshim, who bothered some people with his Rebbishe antics, so they chucked him out of Satmar in the early 80's sometime. As it that wasn't enough somebody decided that it was a good idea to involve his wife in this matter and turn her against him too. The end result was that they went to the Rov, if you know what I mean... Badchan Yoely Lebovitch is his son from his first marriage. The Nikolsburger Rebbe has created a fusion of a very frum yet very accepting chassidus where all are welcome and all are treated admirably. It may not be a mainstream group like the big ones but I hear good things about the place. One of the things they said about him even back then was how charismatic he was, and that you had to be "careful" not be "farchapped" from him, especially when he says Torah.
Well, it seems like has made it his mission to get the word about the NR, posting video on youtube and other sites, this in addition to the "official" website I've seen somewhere online. One such video is the one we posted above, an actual audio clip that has a static image on the "cover." He cries bitter tears at the death of the 6 Mumbai Kedoshim, and let me tell you - call me a woos and a softie if you like, but it took me a few minutes to dry the tears that flowed when I heard him cry and scream about the deaths and what a terrible tragedy it was. There seems to be genuine pain for the suffering of the murdered, the families, the yesomim, and for the entire Jewish people. The bechiyos there are astounding. There's no talk of the Zionists, nor of flag draped coffins, nor of funerals in Hebrew and Presidents and Ministers eulogizing. It seems like you can be a devoted Satmarer and not be a heartless fool like the writer of the editorials in Der Yid. Not that we didn't know this before, but it's reassuring nevertheless.
Call me a woos and a softie too.
ReplyDelete(And thats coming from a cold Lithuanian).
...has seemingly made a name for himself. When I was growing up talk among my friends was that he was a clown - if you'll excuse me. That's the way people spoke of him, as if he were some cult leader. ...a Benon Shel Kedoshim...One of the things they said about him even back then was how charismatic he was, and that you had to be "careful" not be "farchapped" from him, especially when he says Torah.
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Funny thing is they said that about a Rebbe who was nistalek on 3 tamuz, if I close my eyes and change the nigun, the toireh could've been said in a neighborhood that has long turned dark...
well then, I guess they say it about anybody who seems to be doing good things and has an effect on people...
ReplyDeleteNikolsburger Rebbe was a Satmar Rebbe proposed candidate back in 79
ReplyDeleteYou can't say it about the ones who aren't charismatic, and don't farchap people, but are genuine
ReplyDeleteIs the Chof Vov Av Rebbe also on you charisma list? or he was certified genuine? if yes, can you provide the paperwork of that lab
ReplyDeleteHirshel
ReplyDeleteI was told that there is a genuine Hesped by the genuine Tolner Rebbe can you get it please?
you talking to me?
ReplyDeleteIs it a song or a drasha???
ReplyDeletetorah at seudah shlishis. In Ziditchoiv it's done that way, with a nigun. The NR is a Ziditchoiver eynikel.
ReplyDeletesounds like your ready to put away you yellow flag.
ReplyDeleteyitzchok ben avrohom - avrohom hoilid es yitzchok. yoeli lebowitzs father. proof that yoeli lebowitz is a kosher son.
ReplyDeletehttp://haemtza.blogspot.com/2008/12/who-runs-world.html
ReplyDeleteThe alte kaker is kvetching again
yellow flag? me?
ReplyDeleteI have seen him davening in L.A., he usually davens at a Chabad Shul her. He is very accepting of people from all walks of life. (Inculding some Hollywood types).
ReplyDeleteI am surprised by his Satmar origins, as I remember his quoting the Rebbe's sichos when he gave a drasha one Shabbos.
Given the recent popularity of ich vill zayn a rebbe maybe you should be concerned more with the nicklebacker rebbe.
ReplyDeleteAbout 20 years ago I had a friend who became his chossid. He had difficulty becoming mekushar to the LR, because he was so inaccessible. Here he had a rebbe who was a native English-speaker, and who had few enough chassidim that whenever my friend had a problem he could pick up the phone and speak to him. My friend nebach didn't have an easy life, and recently passed away at an early age, never having married or had children; he'd sometimes spend half an hour or an hour on the phone with his rebbe, and got a lot of chizuk. And he wasn't a gvir who could be regarded as an "investment"; this was the real deal.
ReplyDeletesaw him in rabbi lisbon's shul, los angeles 15 years ago, two years in a row, perhaps its an annual shabbes visit. Was very pro Rebbe/Lubavitch. I image he felt that way, and its not bad to raise donations either....
ReplyDeletenext time tzig you listen to his torah, we'll have a "fatshayleh" between us. I hope it won't tear (as in torn).
ReplyDeleteGO AHEAD AND LAUGH. SEE IF I CARE.
ReplyDeleteיואל לעבאוויטש was the first first one named after the Satmer Rebbe
ReplyDeleteREALLY? when was he born?
ReplyDeleteyo talkin to me??
ReplyDeletehave no fear i cried as well.
ReplyDeleteYOU SEE ANYBODY ELSE HERE?
ReplyDeleteThe Rebbe Rashab said Ich bin mekaneh di Peylishe Chitzaynius. This is probably what he meant.
ReplyDeletere: his relationship with lubavitch, you realize that there's an element of opportunitism there.
ReplyDeleteOPPORTUNISM?
ReplyDeleteas opposed to when he goes to the Satmare Gvirim, where there it's all about shittos and NOT about money?!
I see...
calm down hershel.
ReplyDeleteI respect him a lot, I'm going back a few years vchulu.
BTW, he got me when he was describing the long wait & the hope & betochon before the news broke.
ReplyDeleteI totally lost it.
If I'm not mistaken his nephew is Chaim Yankel Leibovitch, who became Lubavitch and was Aharonovs right hand man
ReplyDeleteThe same site has a loooonnnnggg and after a while boring Kuntres that gives more details of the R' Mechel/Satmar fight.
ReplyDeletehttp://hamercaz.com/hamercaz/site/aoi.php?Search=aoi&keyw=V%27Emes#
For those of you who seem to be dying to know more about the background here . . .
this realy belongs in the CIRCUS TENT,what a circus.
ReplyDeletethis guy should be in holywood,
the acting here is very obvious.
oh well,after all acting is the very esence of a rabbisteve
chaim
i know rhe guy he really took off in monsey cuz he has nice shul, housing, good schools and dough.
ReplyDeletehe is a talmid chacham and charismatic, but the promotion of him is gonna bring him down.
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ReplyDeleteCan you say in front of a Sefer Torah that the guy is acting? It is true that he is charismatic and he has acting talent but he is a very deep emotional warm person
His from the only real rebbes to day .
ReplyDeleteall the other rebbes just were yoiresh their fathers,unlike the nikolsburg rebbe he really became rebbe on his own merit