Heist es that the Sanzer Rov could control the thoughts of all the people with him in Shul. Or at least he can remove any, um, womanly appeal that his may have had.
Who was Rechel Devora? the last rebetzin of the sanzer? then she is RBZ grandmother thru the Ratzferter son? is their someone in the house, with sanzer knowledge of who is who?
You just gotta love the Bobver Stories. But all the stories about the Divrei chaim putting a massive emphasis on learning Gemora and Tosfes, I suppose they left this for the Klauzenburger to dwell on.
It seems that Bobov have their own Charsina Geniza, full of mushy bedtime stories.
There is more proof that the moon is made of cheese than the Geniza being genuine. Yet it is mind-baffling how Chabad will bend down backwards to justify this nonsense.
The Marsham and the Chofetz Chaim admitted that they were duped about the Yurshlami on Kedoshim. So why can't Lubavitch do the same?
I'm as big agnostic/atheist as anyone, but I really think this was deconstructed in a twisted way. According to story, Sanzer brought Ray'os (Miriam, Devorah) that le'dvar Mitzvah there would be no Takoloh. If you believe it worked thusly with Miriam and Devorah, then same here. There's no remote suggestion of SR being able to control anyone's thoughts.
BelzFinAMool where do you see the Sanzer Ruv quoting anything? RBZ has a talk about Miriam the prophet, and then squeezes in this story with all the juice. According to the story, the Sanzer is vouching that nobody will get bad toughts from that particular woman, maybe because she wass a Erliche Yidene? or his own higher powers?
Also, ktzas modneh , why a daughter has to be worried about getting a minute from her father to get a couple of zlotys from him. BTW, any sense of how old R' Nechume was when her mother passed away
Belz "I always wondered about Rebbes who dont know Ois Achos, who writes the Tish Toyreh for them." they just quote chasidic seforim, with no added chidushim.
Rupert, "The Chassam Sofer said something very similar about every single talmid in his Yeshiva being heilig." he never said it, it is all fiction produced on a monthly basis.Whatever you don't see in his seforim or in seforim from his 2 famous sons don't believe it.
anon "sanz has a few pirushim 1)Kolshitz 2)Bobov 3) klasenburgh" Koloshitz and Klausenburgh is 99% the same, just the Klausenburger was a bigger Ilu then the Koloshitzer.
I assume If Tzadikim could read Machshoves, then they can control Machshoves too.
ReplyDeleteHirshel
ReplyDeleteI see over Yom Tov you received a bountiful of chasidic snippets.
it's all about the bounty....
ReplyDeleteWho was Rechel Devora? the last rebetzin of the sanzer? then she is RBZ grandmother thru the Ratzferter son?
ReplyDeleteis their someone in the house, with sanzer knowledge of who is who?
You just gotta love the Bobver Stories. But all the stories about the Divrei chaim putting a massive emphasis on learning Gemora and Tosfes, I suppose they left this for the Klauzenburger to dwell on.
ReplyDeleteHirshele,
ReplyDeleteHow low you go to bring this imbecile on your pages????
have some respect! no name-calling.
ReplyDeletewhat don't you like about the story?
What a sweet "Babe" Masse.תרתי משמע
ReplyDeleteIt seems that Bobov have their own Charsina Geniza, full of mushy bedtime stories.
ReplyDeleteThere is more proof that the moon is made of cheese than the Geniza being genuine. Yet it is mind-baffling how Chabad will bend down backwards to justify this nonsense.
The Marsham and the Chofetz Chaim admitted that they were duped about the Yurshlami on Kedoshim. So why can't Lubavitch do the same?
Maybe he just meant "You are so ugly" that you dont have to worry about thoughts....
ReplyDeleteI'm as big agnostic/atheist as anyone, but I really think this was deconstructed in a twisted way.
ReplyDeleteAccording to story, Sanzer brought Ray'os (Miriam, Devorah) that le'dvar Mitzvah there would be no Takoloh. If you believe it worked thusly with Miriam and Devorah, then same here. There's no remote suggestion of SR being able to control anyone's thoughts.
Twistleton,
ReplyDeleteyou're channeling Woody Allen.
Anon
ReplyDelete"the Chofetz Chaim admitted that they were duped "
Where did the CC admit?
BelzFinAMool
ReplyDeletewhere do you see the Sanzer Ruv quoting anything? RBZ has a talk about Miriam the prophet, and then squeezes in this story with all the juice.
According to the story, the Sanzer is vouching that nobody will get bad toughts from that particular woman, maybe because she wass a Erliche Yidene? or his own higher powers?
you are reading it wrong, all it means is that nobody eill be upset with her if she disturbs the "hoif" with her " bakooshes".
ReplyDeletetziggy you are the address of these kind of masses.keep it up, so i can show people what happens to someone who is an..... ......
ReplyDeletecome on, "anti-Tzeig"
ReplyDeletespell it out. we're all adults here.
ha'Yoitze Mi'Kol Zeh iz Modah'eh Rabba Le'Oiraysa
ReplyDeleteAll of today's Rabbah's and Rabbanits could have the same tay'neh,since their Shtellas are all Le'Shem Shomayim,there can never be a problem
Also, no more problems w Eidemehs becoming Rebbes, when you have the Tochter alein. All you need to do is replace Shlita with Tlita
Rabboisai, mit Hayntike Takonos, we're far ahead of the Moslem world
I dont want to hear you mysoginists(sp?) about Rebbe'tehs taking all the Kvittel gelt and running out to the mall.
On a serious note, I always wondered about Rebbes who dont know Ois Achos, who writes the Tish Toyreh for them.
Also, ktzas modneh , why a daughter has to be worried about getting a minute from her father to get a couple of zlotys from him.
ReplyDeleteBTW, any sense of how old R' Nechume was when her mother passed away
hungarians had female rebbes, read the book "they called her rebbe"
ReplyDeleteThe Chassam Sofer said something very similar about every single talmid in his Yeshiva being heilig.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0910818908/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/187-0286160-2438832
ReplyDeletenice try at Hungarian-bashing, Ludmir is in Poland/Russia/Ukraine
ReplyDeletesanz has a few pirushim
ReplyDelete1)Kolshitz 2)Bobov 3) klasenburgh
Belz
ReplyDelete"I always wondered about Rebbes who dont know Ois Achos, who writes the Tish Toyreh for them."
they just quote chasidic seforim, with no added chidushim.
Grainom
ReplyDelete""they called her rebbe"
Sorry to ruin your anti hungarian party, but The Ludmirer Moid was no Hungarian, Ludmir is someplace in Poland
Rupert,
ReplyDelete"The Chassam Sofer said something very similar about every single talmid in his Yeshiva being heilig."
he never said it, it is all fiction produced on a monthly basis.Whatever you don't see in his seforim or in seforim from his 2 famous sons don't believe it.
anon
ReplyDelete"sanz has a few pirushim
1)Kolshitz 2)Bobov 3) klasenburgh"
Koloshitz and Klausenburgh is 99% the same, just the Klausenburger was a bigger Ilu then the Koloshitzer.
Who here read the book and can give us a synopsis of it?
ReplyDeleteAll the Divray Chaim meant was that she garnered so much respect that nobody would see her as a sexual object.
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