A bochur from a chasidisher broken family is in prison for over a week and he has nobody doing anything, but since he is a Yid we are going to help him by raising the funds to get him out of prison and provide him with supervised housing and psychiatric care. He was drunk and resisted arrest, a common symptom of drunkenness. We are getting him the proper help which would include supervised housing and ongoing psychiatric care. The bail is
***UPDATE***
Bail was reduced to $1,000, but we are also raising for ongoing supervised housing and psychiatric care.
Please click on the paypal button below to donate.
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I dont care, he committed a crime and must face the consequences like every other member of this country.
ReplyDeletedoes that mean he's not entitled to bail?
ReplyDeleteAzigra, the Kdushas Levi writes on shoiftim v'shoitrim that the way in which you judge others is the way in which G-d will judge you.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the post makes clear that he has psychological problems. I can go on for pages how your repugnant comment conflict with Toireh.
please get a paypal link or google checkout to donate thanks tizku lmitshvas
ReplyDeleteIt's next to criminal in these cases to post an appeal and not include some kind of paypal or credit card link. By not taking that extra step, you are eliminating almost everybody that would have otherwise given. I, for example, am not going to e-mail some stranger who will ask me for who knows what. Without a standardized and secure method of support, this isaac fellow is making it very unlikely he will receive the support he is looking for.
ReplyDeleteOk, will try and get a paypal or google checkout link.
ReplyDeleteפּדיון שבויים נוהג בּכל מקום ובּכל זמן לכל יהודי, סבור אתה שהיהודים שפּדה ר' רבי לייב שרה'ס או ר' משה לייבּ סאסאווער זצ"ל הי' יושבי בּיהמ"ד ולא עשׂה מעשׂים שלא יעשׂה? כלל לא, ישׂראל אע"פּ שחטא ישׂראל הוא! זו כלל אפי' שחטא לפני הקבּ"ה כּ"ש לפני בּו"ד וכ"ש כידוע שהממשלה שלנו מענישים יהודים יותר מערלים! ואין שום ספק שצריכים לפודאם במוקדם ואולי אפי' בּשבּ"ק
ReplyDeleteועצה היעוצה להרעיש משפּחתו והמנהיגי הכלל שדין בּר נש משתייכים להם, ואם אין לו גואל ח"ו ישראל ערבים זל"ז והקהילות הגדולות כמו סאטמאר וכדומה ישׂא עולה ועוסקים בּענייני אלה תמיד
וצריכים להודיעם במוקדם מכל אשר נעשׂה, כי מן הקבּצנים דידן! לא יבוא ישועה אף ל'שמֶעק טַאבּיק אחת
Tzig, How does the moral of the story had to do anything with this disturbing picture?
ReplyDeleteAs I understand this is being handled by a most noble trustworthy holy man named Reb Isaac Schonfeld, so you can be assured that the money is being used in the proper manner.
ReplyDeleteOn the blog "כל העולם כולו " there is a writer named "SatmarBum" who links to your blog on occasion:
ReplyDeletehttp://theantitzemach.blogspot.com/2012/06/blog-post_10.html
I would suggest if you have access to that site:
http://www.bhol.co.il/forum/topic.asp?cat_id=4&topic_id=2961934&forum_id=16386
named "כל העולם כולו " that you should post the פּדיון שבויים request over there your prayers will be answered much faster!
!תבוא הישועה מ"מ, כי לא עת לחשות
!מכל 'משמר' נצור לבּך
please keep us posted as to how much was raised thru the blog
ReplyDelete46 dollars and counting...
ReplyDeleteAzigra
ReplyDeleteI saw lately a letter in igroth kodesh of the baal shulchan horav, that he collects funds for 2 Jews that did criminal moves ( as yankel muller calls it they had a shvache minute).I guess he was a possek and a ish halacha and he knew the din on that. Your daas is not even a daas baal habais, which a regular yid has pity....
last week ami magzine had an article on yeedel lichtenstein from williamsburg that he bails people out from jail every week. did u contact him
ReplyDeleteplease post this Lichtenstein's contact info. Thank You.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous sarah herzog said...
ReplyDeleteTzig, How does the moral of the story had to do anything with this disturbing picture?
nothing, really. It just happened to have the search term that I googled attached to it. But it's always good to remember what they did to us 70 years ago.
"Your daas is not even a daas baal habais, which a regular yid has pity...."
ReplyDeletewrong, its the view of every rational person on this plant. Only some Jews can think that just because someone had a bris means he's entitled to special treatment. Sorry, thats not the way the world works.
azigra: "Only some Jews can think that just because someone had a bris means he's entitled to special treatment. Sorry"
ReplyDeleteעוברי בעמק הבכא: אברהם אבינו יושב על פתחי גיהנום ולא נותן להיכנס למי שנימול -עירובין
!דין גירא בעיני דסטנא
This post might just prove that Lubavitchers don't really give a damn about their brethren unless it it some paparazzi photo op with some celebrity Goy. S. M. Rubashkin is getting millions but this poor kid can't get nothing, not even a post from Collive or chinfo.
ReplyDeleteOn Yud Beis Tamuz, the day that celebrates release from prison, chinfo only saw fit to publish a story about a Jew GOING INTO jail.
And I guess if it's not a Rebbe, or Gezhe, COL could not give two hoots about their fellow brother rotting in prison.
I hope this comment is proven wrong.
Azigra, I sense your pain.
עת לחננה , can you post it on bhol.co.il ? because I don't have a username or password.
ReplyDeleteLet's make this happen!!
If anybody can forward this to other sites or the right people...
Hirshel, It's posted and viral!
ReplyDeleteמצוה גדולה! פדיון שבויים
http://theantitzemach.blogspot.com/2012/07/blog-post.html
רבותי כאפט אריין א מצוה, געטס ברוח נדיבה,
פדיון שבויים קודם לפרנסת עניים ולכסותן, ואין לך מצוה גדולה כפדיון שבויים, שהשבוי הרי הוא בכלל הרעבים והצמאים והערומים, ועומד בסכנת נפשות. והמעלים עיניו מפדיונו, הרי זה עובר על "לא תאמץ את לבבך ולא תקפוץ את ידך", ועל "לא תעמד על דם רעֶך", ועל "לא יִרדנו בפרך לעיניך", ובטל מצות "פתח תפתח את ידך לו", ומצות "וחי אחיך עמָך", "ואהבת לרעך כמוך", ו"הצל לקוחים למות" והרבה דברים כאלו. ואין לך מצווה רבה כפדיון שבויים
רמב"ם, הלכות מתנות עניים, פרק ח, הלכה י
כל רגע שמאחר לפדות השבויים, היכא דאפשר להקדים הוי כאילו שופך דמים
Azigra
ReplyDeleteI am not as sophisticated as you, I still believe that we are the Am Hanivchar, each and everyone of us in any shape or form...And I believe with emuna shliema we have arvus for every jew that was born by a jewish mom even with a bris....
Tomoshaver: Azigra, I still believe that we are the Am Hanivchar, each and everyone of us in any shape or form...And I believe with emuna shliema we have arvus for every jew that was born by a jewish mom even with a bris....
ReplyDelete1) "that was born by a jewish mom even with a bris" and had mBp !
2) "I believe with emuna shliema we have arvus for every jew" except a satmar! of course.
3) how about a "chulent" yid who announced himself on קרן הצבי, שאין לו חלק באלקי ישראל
!
Keren Hatzvi
ReplyDelete"I believe with emuna shliema we have arvus for every jew" except a satmar! of course"
You are correct except a satmarer, since he is not a tinuk shenishba because he learned the holy Veyoel,,, so he is a Yodie es Ribono uMischaven Limrod Boi...
"
Keren Hatzve
ReplyDelete") how about a "chulent" yid who announced himself on קרן הצבי, שאין לו חלק באלקי ישראל
we non satmarers believe in the Besht, that claimed,no jew can become a non jew....
Keren Hatzvi
ReplyDelete"that was born by a jewish mom even with a bris" and had mBp "
I tought the Chasam Sofer has a teshuva to the rav of Vienna where Metzitza bpeh is not required... Is the CS not the rebbe from the Satmars?
Tomoshaver : "I tought the Chasam Sofer has a teshuva to the rav of Vienna where Metzitza bpeh is not required... Is the CS not the rebbe from the Satmars?"
ReplyDeleteבשעת השמד יהרג ואל יעבור "אפילו לשנויי ערקתא דמסאנא". ואכמ"ל
anon: "You are correct except a satmarer, since he is not a tinuk shenishba because he learned the holy Veyoel,,, so he is a Yodie es Ribono uMischaven Limrod Boi..."
ReplyDeleteDear Anon, since you imply that you're a 'tinuk shenishba' I'll ask you to reply to the following questioner before I'll attempt reply to your ignorant question/statements.
- How old are you
- Which cheder did you learn?
- Which yeshivas did you learn?
- are you secular educated
- What is your father’s background?
- What is your mother’s background?
- do you claim tobe chasidish or...
- Who are your peers or rebbiem
- are you asking Q. in spite of..
- are you a tumim or have an agenda
- did you ever visit psychiatrists
- Where you ever instutianlized
- Where you ever molested
- Where you ever bullied
- Do you consider yourself a bully
- Are you a zionist 1/4 1/3 or a ½
- Did you ever attended AA,NA,or OA
tomoshaver: "we non satmarers believe in the Besht, that claimed,no jew can become a non jew.."
ReplyDeleteAlthough believe is the opposite of knowing, But I question your believe system at best! To deny something you first have to know what it is than possibly you can afiirm or deny it, But to believe in something that manifests that you dont know it!
btw, where does the besh't say something like this? the jewish nation is the oldest and yet the least members in it, who naturally have more children than the others do! how is that possible without the ויתערבו בּגויים which started with the וילמדו את מעשׂיהם which preceded בחליפת השם־לשון־לבוש, ובּלימידי בּחכמת יונית
You're not quoting any besh't but rather dr hertzel and breuer who believed that להיות ככל הגויים בּית ישראל by making them nationlists and that will stop them from becoming נשקע בין האומות therefore now you can be a גוישער־יוד togheter and with that basterized
the המושג דעם ישׂראל
He is still in jail.
ReplyDeleteKeren Hatzvi
ReplyDelete"Although believe is the opposite of knowing, But I question your believe system at best! To deny something you first have to know what it is than possibly you can afiirm or deny it, But to believe in something that manifests that you dont know it!"
I dont get it... what do I know? what do I deny? What do I affirm?
I am perplexed....
Keren Hatzvi
ReplyDelete"btw, where does the besh't say something like this? the jewish nation is the oldest and yet the least members in it, who naturally have more children than the others do! how is that possible without the ויתערבו בּגויים which started with the וילמדו את מעשׂיהם which preceded בחליפת השם־לשון־לבוש, ובּלימידי בּחכמת יונית"
the Besht and nobody is denying assimilation... if a Jew marries a shiksa his kids are not Jewish... so whats your point????
The truth is that even the Gra said that when a jew shmads himself he will still give din vecheshbon on sins as Muktza etc... the conversion ceremony will not deny his being a Jew...
What is all this Hertzel talk... did Hertzel believe in Nishmas Yisroel, chelek elokai Mimaal?
Tomoshaver said: "I tought the Chasam Sofer has a teshuva to the rav of Vienna where Metzitza bpeh is not required... Is the CS not the rebbe from the Satmars?"
ReplyDeleteבשעת השמד יהרג ואל יעבור "אפילו לשנויי ערקתא דמסאנא". ואכמ"ל
Abraham Lichtenstein
ReplyDelete(718) 834-1900
Keren Hatzvi
ReplyDeleteWhere is the shaas Hashmad????
If a legit health department claims its a dangerous, then it a shaas shmad?
The same health dept. is being used on all kind of surgeries etc....
He is still in jail.
ReplyDeletedid YOU donaye yet?
ReplyDeleteIf you didn't get through to Abe Lichtenstein at his office number, his cell phone is 917-837-8077.
ReplyDeleteTomashover : "Where is the shaas Hashmad???? If a legit health department claims its a dangerous, then it a shaas shmad?"
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NEWS:
Kiryas Joel Satmar Rebbe Says No Compromise On MbP Circumcision, Compares "Attack" On Metzitzah MbP To Spanish Inquisition, Holocaust
כי עליך הרגנו כל היום.. רבי יהושע בן לוי אמר זו מילה
בהל' מתנות עניים36 — "שהצדקה סימן לצדיק זרע אברהם אבינו שנאמר37 כי ידעתיו למען אשר יצוה את בניו לעשות צדקה כו' וכל מי שהוא אכזרי ואינו מרחם יש לחוש ליחסו שאין האכזריות מצוי' אלא בגוים כו'"
ReplyDeletehttp://chabadlibrary.org/books/default.aspx?furl=/admur/lkus/37/10/2
Tomashover טיפּוש : "Where is the shaas Hashmad?? If a legit health department claims its a dangerous, then it a shaas shmad?"
ReplyDeleteThe Journal of the American Medical Association writes:
+ Over a million patients are injured in U.S. hospitals each year
+ 280,000 die annually as a result of these injuries
+ Dwarfs the annual automobile accident mortality rate of 45,000
+ Hospitals are filled with infection-causing bacteria that cannot be found anywhere else
+ Many of the microbes passed on thru the air conditioning and heating systems and hospital staff
+ Hospitals are among the most contaminated places in the world
+ Doctors can be the worst transmitters of disease in hospitals
+ 90,000 people a year die from hospital-acquired infections
+ 300,000 Americans die each year in hospitals as a result of medical negligence
+ Most dangerous place in a hospital is the maternity ward
+ A spot check of 105 U.S. hospitals showed that 69 of them had violated basic laws and rules.
+ 3,000 hospital patients in the U.S. undergo wrong-side surgery each year
The above statistics are from 1995 (and from necessary or un-necessary! procedures) they say it got much worse since, the statistics does not include 100,000’s of clinics, doctors offices, etc. So the Health Department is concerned of one or two “maybe” deads or of herpes cases in MbP מציצה בּפּה (from 100,000’s) and they want the bris should take place in a “Hospital” instead! If this is not worse than a שעת השמד!, בעצתם האומללה של הבה נתחכמה למושיען של ישׂראל than what is?!
בכל הדורות נהגו המוהלים לבצע את המציצה בפה, היינו המוהל מוצץ בפיו דם ממקום פצע המילה. אמנם מציצה בפה דווקא הוא דבר שאינו מפורש בתלמוד, אך כי יש מהפוסקים שדייקו בלשון הגמרא, שהכוונה בפה אכן מציצה בפה מוזכרת בפירוש במקורות הקבלה, וכן כתבו כמה ראשונים
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שבלי הלקט הל' מילה סי' ח; ספר העיטור שער ג, הל' מילה ח"ד; מחזור ויטרי הל' מילה סי' תקה; אבודרהם הל' ברכות ריש שער ט; רמ"א יו"ד רסה א;. וראה באריכות בשד"ח מערכת מילה, קונט' המציצה. וראה בשו"ת באר משה ח"ב סי' פ, שהביא דברי הגאונים ר' יצחק אלחנן ספקטור, ר' חיים עוזר גרודזנסקי, ור' אליעזר סילבר, שבמקומותיהם נהגו כל החרדים למצוץ בפה דווקא
! כי עליך הרגנו כל היום זו מילה
Has he been bailed out yet? How much did you raise/donate?
ReplyDeletenot yet. $407.07 has been raised so far.
ReplyDeleteIolo, I hope you're proud of yourself...
certainly am, עשרה ראשונים
ReplyDeleteif that's the total then ani hakoton gave over 50% and i don't make a decent salary.
ReplyDeletec'mon let's just make this happen already
contact dror org.
ReplyDeletecall 1(855)dror-911
they will bail him right away
please contact https://drorfree.org/
ReplyDeletethey can help here
***UPDATE***
ReplyDeleteBail was reduced to $1,000 but we are also raising for ongoing supervised housing and psychiatric care.
Tzig, please note this in the post.
a friend said...
ReplyDeleteif that's the total then ani hakoton gave over 50% and i don't make a decent salary.
ani hakoton?
אל תירא יענקע'לע כי קטן אתה, אתך אני... כי הנני מושיעך מרחוק
why not keep this post pinned to the top until its goal have been met?
ReplyDeleteyou can post date it for 2 weeks.
in blogger if you post date it won't show up till that date. I also cannot "pin" without changing the date to today every day.
ReplyDeleteto those criticizing Chabad giving tzdokoh, I am Lubavitch and I gave. Not bragging, just bragging about Lubavitch. Does that count as bragging?
ReplyDeletethere is an option for post on and post date, several of your posts in the last week or two had the wrong day on them as to when they were actually posted, look from your pc instead of mobile
ReplyDeletemy good man
ReplyDeleteyou can backdate as far back as you want and it will appear as posted on that day, but if you put an advance date then it won't show until that time!
I don't post from mobile, only moderate. Posts happen at a PC.
Future date the apeal post and put current dates on the current posts, the post future dated will stay on top, pok chazi
ReplyDeleteHow much has been raised? Have any askoonim gotten involved yet?
ReplyDeleteThankyou for helping out, wonderful info.:)
ReplyDeleteI noticed on an other site mentioning this
ReplyDeleteמצוה גדולה! פדיון שבויים and it had 1,490 clicks by now, which directs people to your site! maybe it should be posted on other sites to, והריקותי לכם ברכה עד בּלי די! והותר לאחרים הנצרכים בהטָשאלאנט כּנופיא
We raised the money and he was out for Shabbos! Thank you to all those who helped (especially azigra whose negative energy motivated myself and others into positive action).
ReplyDeleteWe are continuing this drive for his psychiatric care and supervised housing.
Tizku Limitzvos.
Keren Hatzve
ReplyDeleteafter your long rant against hospitals, will you use a mohel for some surgery C"V on yourself or a close relative, or a doctor of a decent hospital?