Wednesday, May 23, 2018
My friends, The לעז on the FR didn't start in New York about Shanghai....
What we have here is a letter from the Gaon Reb Chaim Ozer zt"l to Rav Shmuel Yitzchok Hilman Hilman of London (Chief Rabbi Herzog's shver) asking him to intercede on behalf of the 3 Million Jews living under the Soviet regime. Seems part of the issue was that people were hesitant to give or help, since people said that the Frierdiger Rebbe focuses on helping his own Chassidim. As if that's a crime. But Reb Chaim calls it a לעז - i.e. to defame him. So what was the issue back in 1929? What excuse did they have back then? The letter is part of a greater dossier (!) of letters found in the State of Israel archives.
Fascinating.
ReplyDeleteHow did you come across this dossier?
I'd like to say that it was good detective work/journalism, but it's out there for the taking
ReplyDeleteAnd then he still gave them money later on by the chasuna of his youngest daughter. and they still punched him back later. oh wow.
ReplyDeleteI may be off point, but seeing him mentioned in the letter and having recently read a documentary about him, can anyone explain why Rabbi Shmaryahu Gurary (the older son in law) wasn't appointed Rebbe after the Raayatz's passing. It's even more interesting considering the fact that he was considered closer and more devouted to his father in law (with RM'M not even living in the area while RS'G lived with the Rayaatz. Is it simply because RM'M was more suited to the job or was there deeper politics involved?
ReplyDeleteWhen the Rebbe came back from his tziyun visits with answers from his fil, Rashag said 'he hears the answers, I don't'.
DeleteSo he became Rebbe. Because it's not about a 'job', it's about hearing the voice(s).
yes. more suited for the "job."
ReplyDelete! עבדות אני נותן לכם
Deleteא"ל (ר יהושע) עד שאתה תמה עלי תמה על שני תלמידים שיש לך ביבשה רבי אלעזר חסמא ורבי יוחנן בן גודגדא שיודעין לשער כמה טפות יש בים ואין להם פת לאכול ולא בגד ללבוש נתן דעתו להושיבם בראש כשעלה שלח להם ולא באו חזר ושלח ובאו אמר להם כמדומין אתם "ששררה אני נותן לכם עבדות אני נותן לכם" שנאמר (מלכים א יב, ז) וידברו אליו לאמר אם היום תהיה עבד לעם הזה. -הוריות י
"As if that's a crime." Funny, when the yeshivos allegedly gave precedence to their students the Libavitchers called it murder. As usual with Chabad, bias is only okay when it's slanted their way....
ReplyDeleteHe is called the Rav From Lubavitch. Interesting.
ReplyDeleteinteresting letter. Why though, the negativity in the post? Focus on R'Chaim Ozers warm words, instead of anonymous accusations.
ReplyDeleteThank you for posting this. My father told me that a Soviet officer came to where he was staying with Reb Chaim Stein and Reb Chaim Shachnovitz and Reb Meir Zelig Karnovitz and others in Samarkhand, and they were all terrified that they were about to be arrested. The officer handed them an envelope from the FR with money. To see the endless traduction and calumny is so painful.
ReplyDeleteyears ago the Algemiener printed a thank you letter of reb aron kotler to the the rebbe rayatz for his donating money for the yeshiva in Kletzk
ReplyDeleteOnce i asked rav yehoshea mondshine זצ׳ל about חי אלול...where is the first mention of it... he told me from the FR...
ReplyDeleteSo why did he stop helping when he arrived in America?
ReplyDeleteLet's see. Reb Chaim Ozer collected money and passed it through the hands of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, so the credit can be used by the hangers on of his party 90 years later. RCOG did not really have a party, so nobody is screaming about his accomplishments.
ReplyDeleteI have a new found appreciation for the middos of RCOG, the true נשיא הדור by any yardstick
To mr anonymous claiming chabad has a double standard, it shows you dont get it. The crime wasnt that he took care of his own first. The crime was that he distributed to all the yeshivos, with the deliberate exclusion of chabad. That is what is decried as murder.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately some members of the satmar community are sucking up to his grandson in lakewood.
and some they say are sucking up to the Lubavitchers..
Deletehirshel: "The לעז on the FR"
ReplyDeleteא יוד קרעכעטץ ניט בחינם - אבער דאגות אבער כינים. ב'לעז
When the Rebbe came back from his tziyun visits with answers from his fil, Rashag said 'he hears the answers, I don't'.
ReplyDeleteSo he became Rebbe. Because it's not about a 'job', it's about hearing the voice(s).
How is going a cemetary to hear voices not "Doresh El H'Masim" R'L?
קול "ברמה נשמע", נהי בכי תמרורים, רחל מבכה על בניה וגו' כה אמר ה' מנעי קולך מבכי וגו' ויש תקוה לאחריתך וגו
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