(Photo: Vilna Yiddish Institute)
Was it the Yiddish that made look like that? Is it a Russian (Rasputin) thing?
Well, at least we know this much: He's not עובר on לא תקיפו פאת ראשכם and not on ופאת זקנם לא תגלחון, which is more than some of our Yeshivishe friends can say........
All in good fun, relax.
Mr. Katz did in fact attend the Yeshiva of Flatbush and is "bahavent" in some of the "rabbonische Literatur" He is also a fine writer with a geshmak for Jewish things.
ReplyDeleteHe never claimed to be a "haimishe Yid" Rather he is pert of the intellectual Bohemian crowd.
Thanks Kurenitzer
ReplyDeletewhat causes intellectual "Bohemians" to look like hobos?
I think i've met him.
ReplyDeleteIs thsi the guy who does alot of work in lithuania, poland etc...
Hirshe Dovid is a heimishe Yid, he grew up in BP.
ReplyDeleteTwo Hirshes should be able to get along, no ?
I see that what I wrote can be seen as being choilek on Kurenitzer, re if HDK is a 'heimishe Yid' or not, so I want to clarify. When I wrote that Hirshe Dovid is a heimishe Yid, I meant in the meaning of heimish (hay-mish) that means that he is a azay vi a Yid fun der alter heim in some ways, he speaks a geshmake Yiddish, knows Tayreh and Yiddishe zachen, etc.
ReplyDeleteI didn't mean the 'new' usage/definition of heimish (or high-mish) among some which (incorrectly) means that someone is Hungarian and/or Chassidish. If you are thinking along those lines, he is not 'heimish'. If you are thinking along the lines of the old definition of heimish, I think he can be called heimish, despite being modern in some ways.
Vaboniker
ReplyDeleteI guess I would get along with him, but what's with the hair? yuk.
Maybe he wants to imitate the style of a famous Lubavitcher called the Rogatchover gaon ? ;-)
ReplyDeleteHe dosent wear a yarmulka.
ReplyDeleteHe told a friend of mine this masseh.
He was walking down the street when two non bearded litvishers walked by and one said to the other in yiddish, kok of dem modine mentch, to which he replied a yarmulkeh iz midrabonon, a bord iz midoyreysah.
TRM
ReplyDelete!גוט געזאגט
Vabolniker
Maybe.
Yisroel
ReplyDeletehe does travel to small towns in Lithuania and Poland looking for Jews. He meets lots of elderly Jews who converted during WW2 to save themselves.
I'll have to check him out myself . . .
ReplyDeleteThat should add some spice to my trip here in Vilna
He was walking down the street when two non bearded litvishers walked by and one said to the other in yiddish, kok of dem modine mentch, to which he replied a yarmulkeh iz midrabonon, a bord iz midoyreysah.
ReplyDeleteThat's an awesome story! Ten points there!
Reb Hirshel . Re your comments. The Germans could care less if a Jew converted . They looked on Jews as an ethnic group not a religion as such. Thus Karaites claimed they were Tatars and were not touched.Meshumodim in Hungary, Poland, Slovakia etc were all exterminated. In many cases even the RC church refused to defend last minute Meshumodim from the Germanns.
ReplyDeleteThe Jews , Katz mentions converted after the war in gratitude to Goyim who saved their lives.
Many married their saviors others remianed close to them.
I am not judging such people , but for years now , many could have returned to Judaism. But layder besides Katz no one is interested in them. I wonder if either of the 2 chief rabbis in Vilna have embarked on a trip to bring even 1 of these losts souls home.
Actually this is a job for an older rabbi or Baalebos who himself survived the War or knows the turf first hand. Perhaps we could get someone like Reb Besser to go their now and get the list from Katz and talk to these people.
After the War rabbis like Rabbi Oschry did just that and recued hundreds of such Jews some from chashuve rabbinic families.Its another tragic chapter of Jewish hsitory.
Why does he spell Hirsh with an 'ayin'?
ReplyDeleteIs he American?
There is a professor of Yiddish in Oxford University, with a bushy beard called 'dov' or 'ber' something,is he frum?
SBK
ReplyDeleteit must be an "intellectual" thing that laymen like ourselves cannot begin to understand. Yet, those that know say that he's not the type, so I wonder.
Katz learned in Torah Vodas, if I'm not mistaken.
ReplyDeleteHe didn't learn in Tayreh Vodaas - see Kurenitzer, comment # 1.
ReplyDelete"kok of dem modine mentch"
I assume you mean "kook oif dem modneh mentch".
Kurenitzer - no comments on the term 'heimishe Yid' and the various meanings given to it ?
he's not frum at all.
ReplyDeleteveyb kan mekoimo.
"Actually this is a job for an older rabbi or Baalebos who himself survived the War or knows the turf first hand."
ReplyDeleteHow about YOU, Kurenitzer?
Boruch
ReplyDeleteKurenitzer is not that old! he's a baby boomer.
I know, but he "knows the turf" better than some who were born there!
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