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Somehow I believe the accusations will begin to fly that Lubavitch saw this happening yet didn't care. They should've dropped Moshe Katsav when the charges were first brought up, friendship be damned. It'll be made into more proof that Chabad has no morals, and only cares about money and power, right Harry? If, G-d forbid, he IS found guilty then Lubavitch should've known that years ago when he was a MP from Kiryat Malachi and never have spoken to the man. What all this DOES show all of us is that although he must've known this would get out eventually that still was not enough to stop him from proceeding with the alleged assault. It shows us all how vulnerable man is to momentary pleasure when the fallout is permanent. He will never have a political career again, and his name wil forever be mentioned in infamy.
איזה חבל
I am glad that you abide by the eternal principle of innocent until proven guilty - in a non partisan court of law.
ReplyDeleteI think he is being framed. Note how his problems started after he refused to call a reform clergyman "rabbi". The ruling clique has no use for proud Jews - this happens again and again especially when someone who has 2 strikes against him - Eastern origin and a kippa - dares to get too uppity.
ReplyDeleteHirshel, why are you assuming he did anything wrong? Even if Mazuz does indict him, which hasn't happened yet, who says he'll be convicted? And with the state of Israeli justice, if ch"v he is convicted that will give me no confidence in his guilt.
ReplyDeleteAssuming that there's a public trial, and we get fair reports of both sides' evidence and arguments, then I'll be able to make up my own mind whether he's guilty, but for now such a decision is way premature.
I assume no such thing, Milhouse. I base my statements on the court of public opinion, which is judging him as we speak. They're the ones who'll form the opinions that I speak of.
ReplyDeleteTypical of a creedomoorer to think he was 'framed'
ReplyDeleteThen our target is the Israeli press which has no backbone, and only after the Israeli justice system?
ReplyDeleteI think I'll stay in America, thank you.
'Eastern origin and a kippa'
ReplyDeleteAre you implying that Katsav goes with a kippa?He does not.The question here is if it's rape, which it may not be, but a lamed vovnik?
Lets not forget that he was 100% behind Gush Katif...
ReplyDeleteIts intesting that everyone who was behind it or involkved...
Sharon and his son
Olmart
Katzav
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1) As far as I know, the picture above, which shows Katzav with a kippa, is accurate for his everyday dress. He certainly was known to be "dati." If this changed it is recent. And if he did not believe, why would he care enough not to call a reform joker "rabbi"?
ReplyDelete2) He was behind Gush Katif? What voice does he have in government? What does the President do anyway? It is a ceremonial post designed to honor functionaries whose careers have plateaued.
Itzhak
ReplyDeleteyou're mistaken here. He wears the Kippa at his daily Minyan which many shluchim attend when bringing Baaleibatim. He does not wear all day, unless he's at a religious function.
Thanks - when he was appointed President the press reported that he does wear a kippa and back in his Knesset days I did see many pics of him wearing it.
ReplyDeletehttp://news.yahoo.com/photo/070123/photos_wl_afp/193b440af5d42fdc896d0605c4735646
clearly confirms what you posted - thanks again.
I dont understand the chabad problem,the chabad ideology is to be mekarav every yid no matter his religous background, why should a President be different, he did not do a sin that you can not do teshuva.
ReplyDeleteHirschel, you certainly are assuming he is guilty. You wrote: "What all this DOES show all of us is that although he must've known this would get out eventually that still was not enough to stop him from proceeding with the alleged assault.". What could that possibly mean, except that you believe he did it, and threw in the word "alleged" just for looks? If he didn't do anything, then how does this episode show us anything about the power of the yetzer horah? What lesson can we possibly learn from the episode, if it never happened?
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