There's a picture of the Rov under a chuppa waiting to greet the Polish President. I guess the chuppa is for the sifrei torah that were brought out? The Baaleibatim are mostly of the unbearded top hat wearing variety. I wonder about the position of Rov in Krakow at that point in time, like who considered him their Rov. I mean no disrespect, c"v. I'm just asking, historically. A city like that, where most people were chassidim of certain Chassidishe Rebbes, who considered him their Rov? Kind of like Boro Park or Monsey of today. Or even Bnei Brak, for that matter. Did they all go to him with their shayles? to sell their chometz? Was the position a רב מטעם kind of position? And were these baaleibatim of the modern variety? The sheine yidden whose observance was questionable at best?
Just wondering.
For the levaya, it looks like the chasdishe oilem came.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I've read about smaller towns (I'm thinking of Sanz and Oshpitsin specifcally), the rov himself was chasidish and appointed by the majority chasidish kehila. His official seat was in the main shul which was nusach Ashkenaz, but the rov only davened there on special occasions such as shabbos hagodol.
I guess the politics in a large city such as Krakow might have been different, though.
"And were these baaleibatim of the modern variety"
ReplyDeletethe modern jewish cities are segregated by desing different neighborhoods, and mobility i.e. travel, phone, web. in those times the rav and kehilas where final even by the gov. so all persons in the 'mosaic' had to not by choice always (no option of escaping to another jurisdiction) had to comply with their judgements.
look into responses written in that time by some of these gedoli olem and you will get a feel of the issues in the mosaic how it was, their state of mind! and how they reacted to their challenges .
post the mentioned picture
ReplyDeletenechzi anan...
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the write up is gevaldig.
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ReplyDeleteChief Rabbi of Kraków in Marienbad
Rabbi Josef Nechemiah Kornitzer in Marienbad
Always interesting to see hats of varying hues, as opposed to pictures of yesterday's levaya in Lakewood.
ReplyDeletelakewood had a makeover to a theme park like community, trying to imitate by looks bnei brak without the gedolim stink (yet) .
DeleteMechutan with the Rebbe Mahrash His son R Mendel married his daughter bezivug rishon
ReplyDeleteanonymous, weren't you named at birth, are you shamed of yor name? no name is worse than a bad name.
Deleteשלעפט אפיער אפאר גדולים אנ שום פארוואס פארווען, ווארפט זיי ארויס צו מלקלקם אין לייגט זיך דערנאך צו זיך אפריען פון די עבודה קשה, חילך לכולל
ReplyDeleteI have read that the CC asked that no one without a beard should carry his mita, yet the picture shows all carrying his mita were without beards, what a cutzpah.
ReplyDeleteדקקצד יןצןדי ךםםלןמע אם צקץץ
ReplyDeleteharry not, it's דצ"ך עד"ש באח"ב