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Monday, November 26, 2012
Sunday, June 10, 2012
נשא תורה" נוסח פאפא תשע"ב - מ'ציהט צוריק"
Dibros Koidesh - Internet - Nusoy 5772
כ'ווייס נישט צו דאס שטאמט פון וואוינען אזוי נאנט בשכינות צום סאטמערער הויף, אבער די וועלט רעדט אז פאפא קוקט אלע מאהל אויף צוריק צו זעהן צו וואס זיי טוהען שטימט מיט די סאטמארע שיטה, און צו פאר סאטמאר געפעהלט וואס זיי טוהען. דאס רעדט מען סיי אין עניני "קדושה" ווי צב"ש די בגדי נשים, און סיי אין עניני שיטה, ווען עס קומט צו די "השקפה הטהורה." כאטש פאפא רביים זענען שוין דורי דורות בעלזער חסידים, פילען זיי נאך ווי זיי זענען אונטערטעניג צו סאטמאר און מוזען זיי געפעלן. כאטש אין דעם פרט זעהט אויס לכאורה ווי זיי וואלטען יא גוט געשטאנען אין דעם אז זיי האבען זיך באטייליגט אינעם גרויסארטיקן "כינוס כלל ישראל" וויבאלד אז די סאטמורים אנשי רז"ל-ראדני זענען יא געווען אין מאסען, אבער דאך זענען די אנשי מהר"א די שטערקערע צד, און דער עולם נעמט אהן אז די רבי פון קרית יואל שטעלט פאר סאטמאר. ממילא האט מען אין פאפא געשפירט נייטיג אויף צוריק צוהען און זאגען לאחר המעשה אז באמת האט נישט געזאלט גיין - פארוואס? ווייל זיי זענען שוין איינמאל "יוצאי אונגארן" און דארפען די תקנות מיהאלאוויטץ תרכ"ו. מ'דארף האבען מסי"נ אויף נישט זיך באנוצען מיט'ן טריפה'נעם אינטערנעט, זאגט דער פאפא'ער רבי, דאס הייסט אפילו אין ביזנעס, און אפילו געפילטערט.
Saturday, May 12, 2012
א נייע שטאטוסקווא.....
I think I've figured out why they're channeling Mihalkovich, Hungary, 5626 (1866) in their literature. They're trying to recreate that! They're going to try and wield the same power that the Rabbonei Hungary did back then. Just like the Rabbonim then decided that "you're either with us or against us," that if you do not join the Orthodox, then even if you're Orthodox you're not.... So too here. Back then if you remained Status Quo you weren't part of Orthodoxy and your shechita was treif and your Rav was as good as Reform, even if you had a beard and peyos to the floor and your wife wore a Burqa. This is apparently what the organizers and the Rabbonim here are trying to do. They want those who have Internet at home, or at least unfiltered Internet, and you all guys with the Blackberries and IPhones, they want you to be considered Status Quo Jews, and thus מחוץ למחנה. That means you're out of the schools, Yeshivos, shuls, your shechita is treif and you cannot be MESHADECH with any Orthodox Jew! (if nothing else does it the shidduch ban will.) Well, maybe not that much, but you're Modern Orthodox and considered as if you have a TV or home, or as if the lady of the house doesn't cover her hair. I'm not sure how they plan on accomplishing this in times like today.
This is from the "הצלת הדורות" pamphlet which we brought in its entirety last week. As you can well imagine I cannot read all of the literature that I present to you, so I did not notice it then. This particular page was brought to my attention at the end of last week by a very respected individual who was very taken aback by the words that they highlight here and considered them enough of a reason NOT to attend. He considers this very much NOT in the spirit of Toras HaBaal Shem Tov, and thus any person who follows the דרך הבעש"ט הקדוש - and for whom the בעש"ט is holy and dear - should not attend. I said I would see what he's referring to, and now I see what he means. I'm sort of at a loss here. I know that this חשוב'ע person is not of Hungarian extraction and has never been exposed to this style of speaking and writing. To him all Jews are Hashem's children. There was no "teilung" where he comes from, so he cannot relate. He wouldn't do a shidduch with just anybody either, but this talk of מחוץ למחנה, and similar language REALLY rubs him the wrong way. He also has standards when it comes to whom he'd allow in schools, but it's the harsh language, which many would say is totally unnecessary, that got him so upset that despite the fact that he filters his internet he will not attend and wants others to stay away as well. Is it really necessary to use such language? Am I - and him - the only ones that think that writer here sounds like a very ANGRY man?
Will they succeed?
For the history of the Jews in Hugary see Here
Next we have the famous Takonos that were made in Mihalovitz, Hungary in 1866:
תקנות מיהאלאוויטץ תרכו
This is from the "הצלת הדורות" pamphlet which we brought in its entirety last week. As you can well imagine I cannot read all of the literature that I present to you, so I did not notice it then. This particular page was brought to my attention at the end of last week by a very respected individual who was very taken aback by the words that they highlight here and considered them enough of a reason NOT to attend. He considers this very much NOT in the spirit of Toras HaBaal Shem Tov, and thus any person who follows the דרך הבעש"ט הקדוש - and for whom the בעש"ט is holy and dear - should not attend. I said I would see what he's referring to, and now I see what he means. I'm sort of at a loss here. I know that this חשוב'ע person is not of Hungarian extraction and has never been exposed to this style of speaking and writing. To him all Jews are Hashem's children. There was no "teilung" where he comes from, so he cannot relate. He wouldn't do a shidduch with just anybody either, but this talk of מחוץ למחנה, and similar language REALLY rubs him the wrong way. He also has standards when it comes to whom he'd allow in schools, but it's the harsh language, which many would say is totally unnecessary, that got him so upset that despite the fact that he filters his internet he will not attend and wants others to stay away as well. Is it really necessary to use such language? Am I - and him - the only ones that think that writer here sounds like a very ANGRY man?
Will they succeed?
For the history of the Jews in Hugary see Here
Next we have the famous Takonos that were made in Mihalovitz, Hungary in 1866:
תקנות מיהאלאוויטץ תרכו
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