Friday, August 6, 2010

וואס וויל מען פון אונז האבן?!



גיט א קוק וואס דא טוט זיך


א גאנצע משפחה מיט זיסע, פיינע ערוואקסענע און קינדער אפגעווישט אזוי אטא, מיט איין מאל! השם ישמור! טראגעדיעס אזוי לעצטנס איינס נאכ'ן אנדערען, רחמנא ליצלן. אזאנס איז שוין לאנג, לאנג נישט געווען. מ'פלעגט אלעמאל צו הערן דא און דארט פון איינצעלענע מענטשן וואס ווערן נעבאך אוועקגעשלעפט אינגערהייט אדער דורך א צוזאמען שטויס פון אויטאמאבילן, אבער לעצטנס זעהט אויס האט דער מלאך המות אנעגהויבן נעמן קרבנות הויפנסווייז. נישט אז נעמען איינצעלנע קרבנות איז עפעס יא צו דער זאך, אבער מ'איז שוין צוגעוואוינט דערצו, און אפשר איז דאס גאר דער פראבלעם. געוואלד. ס'איז ממש עפעס ווי מ'האט געוואלט אז פון די משפחה זאל קיין זכר נישט בלייבן, עפעס איגנאנצן הימליש בלי שום הסבר כלל וכלל
?וואס וויל מען פון אונז האבען

24 comments:

Praise The Lord said...

HaShem Nossen V,hashem Lukach Yhi Sheim Hashem Mevoiroch

Anonymous said...

וואס וויל מען פון אונז האבען?

בלי שום הסבר כלל וכלל
you lubab Apikoires go back to your chumash with out toras menacchem and you will learn the basics of Judaism that G-D is Right and his punishment Is Just.the Hesbeirim were already given to us by moshe rabeini un men vill du zolst tun teshuvah

Anonymous said...

not teshuva tefila or tzedaka.

lets think of something else

schneur said...

Tzig You are right. Meyredik !Its a tragedy and G-d does not need us to be his lawyers to justify Him."Er kenn zich alein bashtein zayn shtetel" as my father used to say.
But imagine what it felt like for the few survivors after the war when 6 million Jews were killed in kol Misei Meshunos. Why why why and "noch a moll" why ???
And in certain countries like Lita, Poland etc complete kehillos were wiped out and maybe 1 person of a family Mamash survived. We the 2nd generation knew no grandparents no uncles , no aunts just zubrochene parents, zip - And yet the rabbonim could not proclaim a day of mourning for 6 mIllion Jews !!! Would they proclaim it for 10 million ?
I don't care what the frume Zaddikim say, but in the dark days of the Churban there was more than 1 reported instance of Jews called hashem to a din Tore .

Anon3 said...

"un men vill du zolst tun teshuvah". Un du nisht?
Men zol nisht gepruved veren but but if the same would happen to your family C"V I assume you would make a seudas hoidoah? Idiot!!!!!

ANI Mammin said...

i have checked all web sites that report this tragedy and searched the comments, only the Lubavitcher websites are not matzdik as hadin, its time lubavitchers should start to say ANI Mammins after davening like the rest of kllal yisroel , they can use some chizuk in amuna

Zai matzdik yennems din said...

Religion teaches us to bear with equanimity the suffering....of others.

Anonymous said...

Anon #1
big talker
do you know a answer ?
did not thessatmar Rov or Rav Wasserman give a answer on the Holocaust according to their views, in your eyes they should never explained anything just be Matzdik Din and never answer the question of why?
it seemed that they too learned Chumash with Toras Menachem before it was even said or printed.

Anonymous said...

Hershel Is not denying(highlighting) the justice of this tragedy, he just would not mind if we could pin point the reason for it to happen

ej said...

I also feel that after the holocaust there is a special problem when terrible things happen to good people. There is an idea circulating that the holocaust was such a terrible punishment that the Jewish people emerged with a clean slate. We now have the wind to our back so to speak, and the galus with its endless yisurim is coming to a close. People who have such attitudes feel the settlement of the West Bank for example, will happen without terrible repercussions etc. There are many applications of this idea.
The Bernstein family tragedy following on other such cases, as well as the many tragedies of illness which also seems to be increasing, are unsettling. They are intrinsically painful to watch. They also raise larger doubts; to wit, do we really know our future will play out in a benevolent way? Is it even possible to now think that c'v the world will once again become an unwelcoming and unfriendly place for Jews?

Anonymous said...

ej
"and the galus with its endless yisurim is coming to a close"
in the last 100 years most Gedolie Yisroel as the Chofetz chaim and ending by Reb Chaim Kanievsky that we are by the total end of the golus,
I remember my grandfather a survivor who lost a wife and a big family in Auschwitz cried to me at the end of his life, I never thought that after the Holocaust we will be still be in exile for 40 years,

browser said...

HAKODESH BARUCH HU,did not wipe out this mishpacha,the guilty one is the murderous driver who was speeding and was not paying attention to the road ahead of him,
let's not forget 'HASHEM' created us with BECHIRA,that means we have the free will and choice to kill ourselves or someone else against HASHEM'S wishes.
what we have to learn from this tragedy is DRIVE CAREFULLY.
this tragedy had nothing to do with talking by davening or lashon hora,or because my wife is wearing sheer stockings,no,no,no,this happened because the driver was careless on the road.
CHAIM

Lazaroff said...

A pain so deep and real that even over the ocean, with absolutely no personal contact with this family, we are terribly saddened.
Yes, EVERYTHING is the will of HaKadosh Borchu and there are no questions or answers to these terrible tragedies,but surely one is allowed to cry out in pain after such a tragedy.
Understanding that there is a huge family suffering, crying out to our father in heaven in no way minimizes our bitachon- that it is his will. We are allowed to ask for rachamim even if we don't deserve it.
Hashem is our father.

The hate and judgment in one or two of comments posted makes you wonder... can you be a rachmanim and bayshanim,and gomlay chasodim ?

schneur said...

Drive carefully being the only lesson from this disaster is like saying the lesson of the Holocaust is don't elect Nazis to power. I thought there was hashgacha pratis and there was some Divine Plan for this world ?

Burech said...

Off topic
Any pic and info on R'Yosef Hellers father?
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/General+News/67470/Levaya-of-Rav-Dovid-Heller-ZATZAL.html

yoske said...

browser, m'galg'lin... and I can't remember the rest

Anonymous said...

schneur said...I thought there was hashgacha pratis and there was some Divine Plan for this world ?
No question there is hasgacha pratis and a great plan for this word in general and for the Jewish people in particular, but hashem is talking only through his loved ones and they ain't blogger s yet

Anonymous said...

Lazroff I Wonder if someone is crying out for Rachmim from hashem would write in a public blog words like 1) וואס וויל מען פון אונז האבען?
2)I thought there was hashgacha pratis and there was some Divine Plan for this world ? 3)
בלי שום הסבר כלל וכלל
thats why the antsei keneses hagdoila coined the words for our tefila people in pain should beseech respectfully let alone questioning hashems act on a public forum ,
i never ever see on this blog questioning the wisdom of his rebbe or even the act of his fellow lubabs dosent hashem deserve that same respect

bURECH said...

I asked you, nicely, about R'Yosef Hellers father.
What gives?

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

what gives????


1) you never apologized for all the nasty things you said/wrote about me and my friends

2) if you pay attention you'll see that I haven't been doing much writing these last 2 weeks, which would make you realize that I'm occupied with other matters now.

So what was it you wanted to know about Reb Dovid?

apology seeker said...

how about apologizing for hashem for the disrespectful words you right about him

Anonymous said...

Apology Seeker
he apologized by yom kippur kotren,eventough in Chabad its not being said,can u sleep better now?

Anonymous said...

מען וויל פון אונז אז מען זאל אויפהערן לייגן בילדער פון נשים אויפן אינטערנעט

bURECH said...

C'mon now, lets not go overboard.
You got a lot of hits because of my criticism.
Anyway,
Do you have a pic of R'Dovid?.Heard good things about him and wanted to meet him, unfortunately it never happened.
Pic, bio, etc.
Thank you.
Hope you are making decent parnusseh.