א העכסט-אינטערעסאנטע שמועס מיט'ן סאטמאר רב אין פאלם ספרינגס, קאליפארניע

There seems to be an issue viewing this clip on Chrome. IE works fine. The shmuess is about the zman Maariv Motzoei Shabbos in the holy cities of Pressburg and Mattersdorf, cities of the Chasam Sofer. It seems like they davened Maariv not at 72 minutes post-Shkiah, but rather at the emergence of 3 stars. Which was 42 minutes after shkiah in the winter and 55 minutes after the shkiah in the summer.

קצת ע"ד שיטת רבינו תם בזמן מוצש"ק באמעריקא ואיך שהרבי מוויזשניץ-מאנסי לא נכנע להלחץ

על הקול קורא להחזיק 72 דק' מוצ"ש. בהזמנים בהלכה ח"ב עמוד תע"ד כתוב שכן היה אסיפה. ראה מצורף צילום הקול קורא הישן שנדפס בהזמנים בהלכה ח"ב עמוד תע"ה, ושם נדפס שהאסיפה התקיימה באור ליום ד' טהרה ד' ניסן תשי"ד. שים לב שהשמות ע"פ סדר א"ב, ושמו של הרבי מסאטמאר מגיע בדיוק לתחילת השורה האמצעית. ובמפתח הכשרות של התאחדות (מצורף) הדפיסו ג"כ את הקול קורא הזה באותיות חדשות, ושם הגדילו את שמו של הרבי מסאטמאר. והבן. גם בשו"ת ברכות שמים או"ח סי' ע"ז כתוב שהיה אסיפה. האדמו"ר מוויזניץ-מאנסי מכחיש שבכלל היתה אסיפה, רק שסיבבו לאסוף חתימות, כנראה שלא קראו לו כי ידעו שיתנגד.

One thing we see about the Vizhnitzer Rebbe shlit"a is that he sticks to his guns and never backs down. No matter what kind of pressure from how many people. No matter what his shver does or expects from him. That kind of approach is sometimes useful, I suppose.

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מפתח הכשרות by Hirshel Tzig

מהאדמו''ר מויזניץ מונסי by Hirshel Tzig

?סליחות מוצאי שבת Reprinted from 5 years ago)

It seems that those who say the 1st Selichos on Motzoei Shabbos don't have it right. They're missing out on the way it should be done, it's just not the same.

Take case one:

Reb Yid goes to shul at Mincha, eats or doesn't eat a big 3rd meal, hears שאלישידעס תורה or a מאמר חסידות, sings Niggunim and so on. When he gets home there's not much he can do to prepare for Selichos, since he has to wrap up the Shabbos and attend to the mundane chores of Motzoei Shabbos. The מלוה מלכה is a hurried one, and if he's really religious he Chaps a Mikveh before Selichos since G-d knows what he did since the morning Mikveh. At 1am he says Selichos, usually without as much as a word of preparation from the Rov or Rebbe, watches the clock all Selichos, and is in bed by 2:15 or so, barely mumbling Krias Shema, and as tired as can be. The next morning he can barely get up, misses זמן תפלה, and the 1st Day of Selichos's davenen has יענער פנים.

Now imagine this:

Reb Yid (2) has the same schedule up until Motzoei Shabbos, but his night is different. [He's nervous about the next day and not getting enough sleep, so he rushes through the Motzoei Shabbos rituals, yes, but all for a good cause, after all he's gotta be up at 4am!] The next morning he's up at 4am, rushes to the Mikveh, and listens to an impassioned Droshoh than can melt a heart of stone. (Anybody heard the קלויזענבורגער רב'ס דרשה פון תשכ"ז?) The Selichos obviously goes accordingly, and the Davenen follows suit. He may even fast half a day, since he already had his coffee in the pre-morn hours, so that he's good to go till 1pm, and especially since he may eaten at the Atrium in Monsey 4 years ago. (HT- we're talking the "Finkel Story)

See if you can figure out to which group or קרייז Reb Yid #1 belongs to, and where Reb Yid #2 belongs. I apologize to my father in advance if he may take offense to this post. It's all in good fun.

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