Schneur WAS right; it was Zorach Warhaftig, a Mizrachist, who was instrumental in getting the visas for the Mirrer Bochurim! I seem to remember seeing Moshe Zupnick in Boro Park.
There seems to be more of this video, I just can't seem to find it now.
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The Mizrachi leaders in the first 20 years of State of Israel were exceptional men.Dr Warhaftig was a scholar , lamdan and asken, R, Moshe Chaim Shapiro (his brother was the chief talmid of the Chofetz chaim)saved thousands of Jews in the War. Dr. Isaac Refael was a serious scholar of Chassidism and founder pf Messod Horav Kuk. Dr. Josef Burg was another schoalr and political giant. Compare these men to the leaders of the Aguda (Porush, Lorencz,SY Gross) in those years. No wonder the rebbe spent a lot time in yechidus with these Mizrachi leaders.
R' Zorach Varhaftig was a yeshiva man from Der Lita, btw, and he is mentioned as being one of the people who helped with the hatzolo, so I'm not sure what your point exactly was,negative,positive or just a statement? Actually apparently the person who came up with the idea to seek a transit visa through Japan, to Curaco,because the Japanese would not give a regular visa was a Dutch bocher who learned in Telz if I'm not mistaken , named Guttman, who again if I'm not mistaken lived in Antwerp after the war and may have married the Reichmans' sister, who by Hashems hand had met one the very few Dutchmen in Lithuania who was an agent for Philips, the electronic giant from Holland in Kovna. Maybe Shneour knows more. N.B.As you well know, not only the Mirrer yeshiva was saved, so as angry as you probably are about that, maybe the fact that 25 Lubavitch bocherim were saved wins you over (the fact that only 25 Lubavitcher were saved is because the hundreds of others who were starved to death by the snags in Shanghai, according to popular Lubab myth.The only true part is that a Lubavitcher boy name Chanovich(or something like that)who had been sickly for years before that succumbed to the very prevalent inlnesses in the tropical weather of Shanghai as did about 7 Mirrer as did other Jewish refugees, but why not teach hate and lies??)
Tzig I see that Ailimishers point of why you call yourself Tzig was right! You are by the freakin' way the guy who is always pushing the Lubab this Lubab that, and that what your whole blog has been about. Btw, a klieneh heoro for your claim that 'most ziknei ana'sh wanted the Rebbe and not the Rash'ag' The 'Ziknei Chabad' you talk about were some 'Ziknei Poilen and Amerika',Unfortunately, there were not to many 'ziknei Chabad' around due to the holocaust and very much due to Communism. (you probably know, but will not admit that R'Zevin and others had studied in Bobroisk and were very shvacheh Lubavitchers) Look, genius, my great uncle was a Zkan Chabad, who later on grew to love and respect the Rebbe, but was very, very uncomfortable with the 'vayivrach' that the Rebbe did from Varsha, and noch der tzu to tomehneh Berlin and University.This uneesiness was ,so I have heard was a universal feeling by the oldtimers.
if they weren't around they couldn't wanted Rashag, right?
Why would I not admit it? Zevin was a tremendous Chossid of the Rebbe, and a Bobruisker Talmid. He would stand when receiving news or regards from the Rebbe, although he was more than 15 years his senior. Why should I not admit that?
I'm sure your great uncle was a very nice guy, but the Rebbe didn't run from Varsha, he only got married there, and left during the Sheva Brochos with his wife and in-laws to resume the Sheva Brochos in Riga. I'm sure others were uneasy too, and rightfully so, but they later realized who the Rebbe is as did Rashag himself.
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The Mizrachi leaders in the first 20 years of State of Israel were exceptional men.Dr Warhaftig was a scholar , lamdan and asken, R, Moshe Chaim Shapiro (his brother was the chief talmid of the Chofetz chaim)saved thousands of Jews in the War. Dr. Isaac Refael was a serious scholar of Chassidism and founder pf Messod Horav Kuk.
Dr. Josef Burg was another schoalr and political giant. Compare these men to the leaders of the Aguda (Porush, Lorencz,SY Gross) in those years. No wonder the rebbe spent a lot time in yechidus with these Mizrachi leaders.
R' Zorach Varhaftig was a yeshiva man from Der Lita, btw, and he is mentioned as being one of the people who helped with the hatzolo, so I'm not sure what your point exactly was,negative,positive or just a statement?
Actually apparently the person who came up with the idea to seek a transit visa through Japan, to Curaco,because the Japanese would not give a regular visa was a Dutch bocher who learned in Telz if I'm not mistaken , named Guttman, who again if I'm not mistaken lived in Antwerp after the war and may have married the Reichmans' sister, who by Hashems hand had met one the very few Dutchmen in Lithuania who was an agent for Philips, the electronic giant from Holland in Kovna.
Maybe Shneour knows more.
N.B.As you well know, not only the Mirrer yeshiva was saved, so as angry as you probably are about that, maybe the fact that 25 Lubavitch bocherim were saved wins you over (the fact that only 25 Lubavitcher were saved is because the hundreds of others who were starved to death by the snags in Shanghai, according to popular Lubab myth.The only true part is that a Lubavitcher boy name Chanovich(or something like that)who had been sickly for years before that succumbed to the very prevalent inlnesses in the tropical weather of Shanghai as did about 7 Mirrer as did other Jewish refugees, but why not teach hate and lies??)
Pied
nebach on you. You Mamesh can't see straight, all you see is Lubab this and Lubab that. I wish you well, if I'm not mistaken.
Tzig
I see that Ailimishers point of why you call yourself Tzig was right!
You are by the freakin' way the guy who is always pushing the Lubab this Lubab that, and that what your whole blog has been about.
Btw, a klieneh heoro for your claim that 'most ziknei ana'sh wanted the Rebbe and not the Rash'ag' The 'Ziknei Chabad' you talk about were some 'Ziknei Poilen and Amerika',Unfortunately, there were not to many 'ziknei Chabad' around due to the holocaust and very much due to Communism. (you probably know, but will not admit that R'Zevin and others had studied in Bobroisk and were very shvacheh Lubavitchers)
Look, genius, my great uncle was a Zkan Chabad, who later on grew to love and respect the Rebbe, but was very, very uncomfortable with the 'vayivrach' that the Rebbe did from Varsha, and noch der tzu to tomehneh Berlin and University.This uneesiness was ,so I have heard was a universal feeling by the oldtimers.
what is "the freakin' way?"
if they weren't around they couldn't wanted Rashag, right?
Why would I not admit it? Zevin was a tremendous Chossid of the Rebbe, and a Bobruisker Talmid. He would stand when receiving news or regards from the Rebbe, although he was more than 15 years his senior. Why should I not admit that?
I'm sure your great uncle was a very nice guy, but the Rebbe didn't run from Varsha, he only got married there, and left during the Sheva Brochos with his wife and in-laws to resume the Sheva Brochos in Riga. I'm sure others were uneasy too, and rightfully so, but they later realized who the Rebbe is as did Rashag himself.
Kol Tuv.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/sugihara/
worth getting the documentary should be required watching by all
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