litvak "ר' מענדעלע מוויטעפסק'ער זצ"ל שרייבט אין אַ בריעף פאר אַ חסיד וואס בעהט פין איהם זש"ק, מזכרונו: התחת אלקים אנכי אשר מנע ממך פרי בטן, אחד הי' הבעש"ט שיקיים בו צדיק גוזר והקב"ה מקיים ואחריו לא קם " so can we conclude that all mofsim of the rebbe Reb Milech and the Yismach Moshe are lies....
"so can we conclude that all mofsim of the rebbe Reb Milech and the Yismach Moshe are lies...."
צדיקים קטנים עם הגדולים בעבודתם ובתפילתם פּועלים ישועות ורפיאות, אבל זה לא בכלל צדיק 'גוזר' לפי ר"ר מענדעלע מויטעפּסק זצ"ל
Only a yevenites reasoning and logic will conclude that! even the LA Times (see below) underestands that religious thinking is different tahn yevenites reasoning and logic
Rav avigdor miller was against the genre of מופתים and hashgahah storys... It is diffucult enough to believe in the 13 ikarim of the rambam , he would say...
Here's a man who says it happened to him 20 years ago. He's no shill for Lubavitch. He's had his arguments with them, and he's alot close to the Gerrer Rebbe and many Litvishe Gedolim. He's the יו"ר חינוך עצמאי, which, in case you forgot, is R' Aron Kotler's baby. Is he not נאמן to repeat a story that happened with HIM?!!
Tzki "Tziki kedera said... Rav avigdor miller was against the genre of מופתים and hashgahah storys... It is diffucult enough to believe in the 13 ikarim of the rambam , he would say..." diffucult it is for fargrebte misnagdim....Ashrine Ma tov chelkanie that I was brought up by chassidic jews that the light of emuna was glowing on their faces...
A lubab affiliated with חינוך עצמאיthat teaches minus and kefurah to 100,000's young kids beliefs in mofsif from rebbes! even kafka wouldnt come up with such absurdity!
Ro tell such stories has never been the general way... Besides rav AM there is r nachman of breslov , the SR , rav arele ( with certain exceptions as explained there עיין שם( and chabad ... The rebbi R MMS recently said the דור is so low we must resort to these stories.
Sonai Yisroel "A lubab affiliated with חינוך עצמאיthat teaches minus and kefurah to 100,000's young kids "
Lizerson is no chabadnik he is 50% Ger and 50% Litvack, does chinuch atzmo teach christianty? The last time I heard was, they do teach the 13 principles of the Rambam, the only thing they dont teach, is the new Veyoel religon, that was sanctioned by all real gedolie yisroel.
Sorry to disturb your dream but the חינוך עצמאי monthly publication called ילדתינו prints real kefirah togheter with the 13 principles of the Rambam ! especially on astronomy subjects.
19 comments:
Hirshel
its a chilly Motzai shabos thanks for warming my neshoma..
סיפור "בדידי הוא עובדא" פון דער בעל שם טוב שבדורנו
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כּ'פארשטיי נישט קיין ווארט! הגם זיין בַארדע גיפעלט מיר, אמאל זאג'ן זיי ער איז משרע"ה,בעש"ט,משיח וואס ווייטער!
דער מנח"א פלעגט זאג'ן אַ מענטש איז פּעמים מלאך, ופּעמים גלח
It was R shloima Karliner that said "a mol a malach amol a galach"
This bdidi hava uvda is as believable as the story about the rebbe telling rav shach he needs new tefilin
Litvak
what dont you understand?
eech
so we have 2 Mofsim on 1 day... the tefilin of Morinie Shach and this one... good day for emunas tzadikim (daas torah in bnie berak lingo)
litvak
"דער מנח"א פלעגט זאג'ן אַ מענטש איז פּעמים מלאך, ופּעמים גלח"
on whom did he say it on the belzer ruv? or on his chadban?
"on whom did he say it on the belzer ruv? or on his chadban?"
On me & you.
סיפור "בדידי הוא עובדא" פון דער בעל שם טוב שבדורנו
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ר' מענדעלע מוויטעפסק'ער זצ"ל שרייבט אין אַ בריעף פאר אַ חסיד וואס בעהט פין איהם זש"ק, מזכרונו: התחת אלקים אנכי אשר מנע ממך פרי בטן, אחד הי' הבעש"ט שיקיים בו צדיק גוזר והקב"ה מקיים ואחריו לא קם כמוהו
אבל לבקש מהצדיק שתתפלל עליו זה דבר אחר
litvak
"ר' מענדעלע מוויטעפסק'ער זצ"ל שרייבט אין אַ בריעף פאר אַ חסיד וואס בעהט פין איהם זש"ק, מזכרונו: התחת אלקים אנכי אשר מנע ממך פרי בטן, אחד הי' הבעש"ט שיקיים בו צדיק גוזר והקב"ה מקיים ואחריו לא קם "
so can we conclude that all mofsim of the rebbe Reb Milech and the Yismach Moshe are lies....
"so can we conclude that all mofsim of the rebbe Reb Milech and the Yismach Moshe are lies...."
צדיקים קטנים עם הגדולים בעבודתם ובתפילתם פּועלים ישועות ורפיאות, אבל זה לא בכלל צדיק 'גוזר' לפי ר"ר מענדעלע מויטעפּסק זצ"ל
Only a yevenites reasoning and logic will conclude that! even the LA Times (see below) underestands that religious thinking is different tahn yevenites reasoning and logic
http://articles.latimes.com/print/2012/apr/26/science/la-sci-religion-analytical-thinking-20120427
במסכת שבת: ישראל דדאיגי במצות חביל גופייהו, נכרים דלא דאיגי במצות לא, או דילמא: כיון דאכלין שקצים ורמשים חביל גופייהו? תיקו, עיי"ש. איך שיהי' הישראל אפילו זרע שלו משונה מנכרים כ"ש מחשבותם וכו'..
Rav avigdor miller was against the genre of מופתים and hashgahah storys... It is diffucult enough to believe in the 13 ikarim of the rambam , he would say...
Tziki kedera : "Rav avigdor miller was against the genre of מופתים and hashgahah storys"
No kidding that's what he said:
משל לבת מלך שהריחה ציקי קדירה. אם תאמר יש לה גנאי, לא
תאמר יש לה צער, התחילו עבדיה להביא בחשאי shhhh..
ווי קומט דא אריין ר' אביגדור מיללער, זאל האבען א ליכטיקן ג"ע?
Here's a man who says it happened to him 20 years ago. He's no shill for Lubavitch. He's had his arguments with them, and he's alot close to the Gerrer Rebbe and many Litvishe Gedolim. He's the יו"ר חינוך עצמאי, which, in case you forgot, is R' Aron Kotler's baby. Is he not נאמן to repeat a story that happened with HIM?!!
i thought the lazerson is the bal shem of the dor, the rebbe could have been from the last dor, but hese a dor hashmini
Tzki
"Tziki kedera said...
Rav avigdor miller was against the genre of מופתים and hashgahah storys... It is diffucult enough to believe in the 13 ikarim of the rambam , he would say..."
diffucult it is for fargrebte misnagdim....Ashrine Ma tov chelkanie that I was brought up by chassidic jews that the light of emuna was glowing on their faces...
"but hese a dor hashmini" "יו"ר חינוך עצמאי "
A lubab affiliated with חינוך עצמאיthat teaches minus and kefurah to 100,000's young kids beliefs in mofsif from rebbes! even kafka wouldnt come up with such absurdity!
!ביום־בדור השמיני ימול בשר ערלתו
Ro tell such stories has never been the general way... Besides rav AM there is r nachman of breslov , the SR , rav arele ( with certain exceptions as explained there עיין שם( and chabad ...
The rebbi R MMS recently said the דור is so low we must resort to these stories.
Sonai Yisroel
"A lubab affiliated with חינוך עצמאיthat teaches minus and kefurah to 100,000's young kids "
Lizerson is no chabadnik he is 50% Ger and 50% Litvack,
does chinuch atzmo teach christianty? The last time I heard was, they do teach the 13 principles of the Rambam, the only thing they dont teach, is the new Veyoel religon, that was sanctioned by all real gedolie yisroel.
"does chinuch atzmo teach christianty? "
Sorry to disturb your dream but the חינוך עצמאי monthly publication called ילדתינו prints real kefirah togheter with the 13 principles of the Rambam ! especially on astronomy subjects.
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