Wednesday, December 19, 2012

...א וויזשניצער ליינען

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אז ער קען שוין יא אזוי גוט, טא פארוואס ליינט ער נישט אליין? א רחמנות אויפ'ן בעל קורא

15 comments:

An Ailemesher said...

א רחמנות אוף די מתפללים. דער בעל קורא ליינט נח מיט זיבען גרייזען.

Harry Hoodle said...

I assume one of the Graizen was the fact that it was Lech Lecho that he was laining?!

באבא זאלי said...

הטעותים כאן בהקריאה, הוא בא מן הנגע הכי גדול הלשון הציונות שקוראים עברית שמושרש בהם שם ב"ב

הרבינו בחיי שהי' ספרדי כותב, המחליף פת"ח בקמ"ץ לא ימלט אחת משתים או יהרוס הכוונה או יבוא לידי כפירה, כי הנקודות מניעות האותיות כמו שהנשמה מניעה את הגוף. וכמו"כ הר"י עמדין שהי' ג"כ ספרדי כותב, לא כספרדים שאינם מבדילים בין קמ"ץ לפת"ח בזה הם עושים קודש לחול. ע"כ

Anonymous said...

Baba Zali,
You mean Rav Yaakov Emden? You are saying he was Sfardi?


Michoel

Baba Zali said...

Baba Zali, "You mean Rav Yaakov Emden? You are saying he was Sfardi?'

yes.

באבא זאלי said...

Anonymous:You mean Rav Yaakov Emden? You are saying he was Sfardi?

טעותי, עם החסיד רבי יוסף יעב"ץ -רב ספרדי, ממגורשי ספרד. טעות לעולם חוזר

Interchuchem said...

if u would know who zelig is the baal koreh u wouldn't ask any questions its cute

yumy said...

Oholoi or oholov?

CR said...

Sorry, I do not sympathize. This "ba'al koreh", if you can call him that, doesn't know trop, girsa hamilim nor basic rules of dikduk. Use an "ungarishe" pronounciation if you wish but that does not excuse the hatchet job we hear in this clip. If I were called up I would have been correcting him left and right as well!

Fred said...

CR, you are clearly unaware that in many if not most chassidishe places they are not makpid on dikduk whatsoever during leining.

Bar Minon said...

@ Fred

So by correcting him, the rebbe must be displaying his non-chassidishe tendencies.

שפיפון said...

Bar Minon said: ---

מי כאן שואל האוב וידעוני ודורש אל המתים? תועבת ה' כל עושה אלה!--"תמים תהיה עם ה' אלקיך"

CR said...

"...in many if not most chassidishe places they are not makpid on dikduk whatsoever during leining."

I have been in Ungarishe Chassidishe shuls before and have heard their leining. While they often place the stresses on syllables not marked with a ta'am they do differentiate pronounciations that affect meanings. The Cana'an/Cano'an, Eretz/Aretz or Vayisoh/Vayisah misses here were not differences of minhag, I assure you!

CR said...

Also, is the Rebbe here trying to get him to stop at "VehaKena'ani oz bo'oretz"? Lubavitch stops there after Sheini but I have never seen anyone else do so. They usually stop where he does here; at "haloch v'noso'a hanegbo".

pitputim said...

What do people want from Hungarians. Aren't they descended from the Kizarim? Or is that K'Zorim or K'Zoirim.