Sunday, November 12, 2017

File this under "לא הי' ולא נברא" please

Apparently this was published (!) in an Israeli newspaper called כל ישראל in honor of the recent yohrtzeit of the late Ponovizher Rosh Yeshiva. How any editor would publish something without taking just 2-3 minutes of his/her time to verify this.... is beyond the publisher of this blog.


13 comments:

H.B. Squirrel Hill. said...

Hirshel get this r' shach was the head of a "political party" vs. the LR was the head of a chasidishe "dynasty". shach and his antics will be long forgotten, not so the "Tanya" and his disciples. this is a story between a revrend and his son the doctor, it has no effect outside of the "peanut gallery" speakeasy's.

dovy j said...

how do you know the story isn't verified?

Leizer said...

If only Mundshine was still around! LOL

azi said...

Which part makes this untrue? That the LB wouldn't care to send a message to RS or the content of the message?

Moshe Grylak said...

Today's editor dont care if a story is true, all they need is pages filled up, with some periodical scoops

Anonymous said...

It is a great story.

Chaim the Rov's said...

Cuz dynasties are not political parties. Cuz dynasties don't need actual progeny.

Get this in your head. The Tanya was never the issue, nor his disciples.

Yehupitz said...

I'm guessing that the reason you are so certain the story isn't true (besides for its unlikely elements V"AKML) is that every "dollars" event (from 1986 to 1992?) was videotaped; and something like this would not have gone unnoticed and unreported till now.

Leiby said...

There are many reasons why it can't be true. For starters, Rav Shach's problems with Lubavitch were not just about the Moshiach issue, and they started long before Meshichism was ever an issue!

N.M. said...

"long before Meshichism was ever an issue!"

was he a Lubavitch'er talmud?

Berel said...

The reason why the story can't be true is because it isn't true that the rebbe didn't encourage the mosiach business. If it were then the response of Rav Shach would have been 100% correct.

Rav Shach did not speak against Chabad until the 1980s.

It would have been cool if Efriam Shach showed up to get a dollar and introduced himself. I would love to know what would have happened.

Rav Shach did not speak against Chabad until the 1980s.

Rav Schnuer Kotler had a son (he died many years ago) that for a time was into Chabad and used to go there. But apparently RSK ,although opposed to Chabad, wasn't so vehemently opposed to it because the RASHAG came to his levaya. RSK died before the Mosiach campaign. Had he been alive when it happened he probably would have felt differently.

mustard seed said...

chasidim in general fight only l'sham shumayim therefore their struggle stays a נצחיות think¿

politicians fight to win elections, and all politics are domestic when the personalities die or when the party changes its platform the struggle ends to..

כל מחלוקת שהיא לשם שמים סופה להתקיים. המחלוקה קיימת לעד

observation deck said...

Don't get me wrong, on a political level he the LR had to be stopped. the LR reached the stratosphere after Entebbe, the six d war, אר"י השלימה campaign, all these issues played well for him catapulted him in some "political" parties in particular, so Rav shach the politician concocted a dangerous mix of religion and politics and went after the jugular of the LR, after the Entebbe issue satmar didn't want any upheavals directly with L so the stayed out of it, and let them have it.