Thursday, February 10, 2011

"זכרון שמריהו"



Who remembers how Schneur used to rail about that fact that Lubavitch never named any institutions after the Frierdige Rebbe's oldest Eydem, The RaSHaG, Reb Shmaryahu Gurary, z"l? (It was mostly - or all - on Mentalblog,ע"ה, not here.) How about we rename this blog "Zichron Shmaryahu" for a day Lekoved the RaSHaG's 22nd yahrtzeit? There's not much that I can do, other than this. I don't have buildings or mosdos, and I'm not publishing a sefer at the moment. This blog is all I have. By the way; has anybody else noticed how the Meshichisten seem to have taken up that cause, for lack of a better term. These pics are from a rabid Meshichist site, and they commemorate him very often. Go figure.

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Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

#200 is MINE!!!

Anonymous said...

פארברעכין
correction

Anonymous said...

the significance of the 200th comment is deeply reminiscant of the esoteric meaning of dor hashvii
yom hashishi
kol mekadesh shevii

Anonymous said...

Anon 8:22,
I'm totally lost here. How did a discussion about the Rashag, lomdus, HS's goons get to CLY on La Brea (BTW, it's a gr8 shul led by its esteemed gabai Levi Raichik)

Anonymous said...

esteemed gabai Levi Raichik)

mechutzaf! he is the rav!

zudike yoich said...

Anon8:06 Despite the gemoroh in Sanhedrin that you are going to quote me it is a fact beyond dispute that Jews never believed in a dead messiah.There is another opinion that there is no messiah at all for Jews. Neither that nor the messiah from the dead was ever accepted by normative Judaism. When your candidate for Messiah was alive the Lubavitch propaganda machine relentlessly announced that moshiach was a living person like you and me.I remember R. Butman making that point in his column in the Jewish Press. Suddenly the propaganda machine fished out this gemoroh. There are endless opinions in the gemoroh but at the end of the day klal yisroel accepted a certain opinion as the correct one.This is true in halacha and in hilchos deos and ikorei emunah. You are great admirers of the Rambam-does he talk about a messiah from the dead? He seems to imply the exact opposite in hilchos melochim. The only source that accepted a messiah from the dead is a book called the N.T. written by the disciples of y. the notzri. Do teshuveh and return to klal yisroel.The bar pelugta is 2000 years of Jewish history which stated clearly that a messiah from the dead is a ch..ian concept not a Jewish one.The goyim say that j. is coming back. According to you that's not geferlech. Gevald geshriyen!

Dayan said...

As for yerushah: daughters inherit when there are no sons (as opposed to widow who is merely supported). Yerushah of daughter is halachically in domain of her husband. Grandchildren are not part of yerushah (in absence of will) until death of their parent. Thus neither daughter had any rights to dispose of yerushah in lifetime of their husbands. Then there is the sugya of nichsei tzon barsel and nichsei melug, which allow husband to deal with yerushah - except that in some cases he is liable and in others he is not

As a part time Dayan, I would like to clear up a few halachic points. The post above is partially ignorance. While a husband has use (without diminishing) the inheritance, it remains the daughters in that she and only she can waive or demand the principal

Contrary to all the rantings above, a Heter Arkous IS issued with out listening to both sides, ESPECIALLY if one side doesn’t want to go to Bes Din. What else could you do? They are refusing to go to Bes Din. And an injunction according to some Poskim doesn’t even need a Heter Arkous. (See Shut Rma Mpano # 51 and many concurring Poskim).

Lastly, I think Barry would have been MUCH better off in a Bes Din, as they would have been more likely to view the Seforim as private property, like all Rebbish stuff.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
esteemed gabai Levi Raichik)

mechutzaf! he is the rav!

Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:21:00 P

While he is definitely more respected and feared than the rav (his bro Rav Shimon) he never claimed title to being the rabbi and to prove it, walks out of shul during the rabbi's drosho to make kiddush on glen. His younger brother yankee also has this mingah, and i guess it's a kabbolah from their mother's gerer blood to never sit thru a drosha.

Brigham Young said...

Good News for Anash .
We have rented a bus with 2 bathrooms to go to NJ to the cemetary where Barry S. Gourary is buried. We will place kvittlekh there as to help his neshama in Shomayim. Since this was very popular in Zefas , we trust you will avail yourself of this opportunity.
Pencils , papers and diapers will be provided.
The fee will be a donation of books(books may be Judaica, Kabbalisitic, science fiction or detective novels) to the Lubavitch Library.
Following this ceremony we will go to the thousands of other graves of mechalelei shabbes all over the cemetary and raise their neshamos.
Upon arrival in Crown Heights kibbud will follow with a short address byMr. Sandy Young Mormon Elder in park Slope South.
men and women are invited !

Bernie M. said...

I don't see any ads here . I suspect you may not be an heimische Yid how are you making a profit on all of this ?

yehupitz said...

I know we're done here and have moved on to the Pnei Menachem's sharfkeit; But I have a sad thought.

I've heard this idea repeated over and over, that in a Beis-Din BG would have won.

My first thought is that even assuming that the Library would have been considered a personal possession, it would then have belonged to the two sisters, not BG. I was under the impression that the husbands could then prevent the sale of the keren. If I am mistaken on this point, then so be it. But either way, BG could only have made a legitimate and halachic attempt as heir after his mother's death. By jumping the gun by 4 years, he lost it all.

Secondly, and this is the sad part, the reason a Beis-Din would have found in favor of BG is essentially by assuming what RaCHaL and that side were claiming: That the RaYYaTZ was lying in his letter to Marx. Only many a Chareidi Beis-Din's contempt for Civil Law, and presumption almost any document is a Shtar Havrochas (sp?) might have won BG the case. But that would not reflect well on that Beis Din.

Thirdly, I am thinking that due of the symbolic value of the Library, Barry's theft made compromise impossible. (R Mendel Feldman was sharply criticized by the Dor Shvii'nikes for suggesting a peshara.) Shtileheit could have prevented all of this anguish. I wonder what Mulle-Brigham Young thinks about that thought.

In response to one of the anons, I admit I wasn't there. My opinions are based on all the facts and opinions, from both sides, that I have read over the years.

Balak the watch dog said...

Yehupitz which Besdin in the world would have withstood the pressure and muscle of the Lubavitch organization?
And the ones that may have been able to stand up to Lubavitch tactics like Sakmar(CRC) would certainly not be acceptable to Aguch.
Barry's theft(should be Barry's removal) you need to watch your language , as Barry's heirs may sue you for libel,if BG was a thieve there would have been criminal proceedings , of which we are not aware of. No court of law called him a thieve rather he thought family property was his that the court held was not. There are tens of thousands of such inheritance cases in courts throughout the USA and no one is called a thieve.Hopefully on some future independent blog the other side (friends of BG and the Rashag)will be able to take out its guns and offer a more objective examination of this case, and the Gourary family (not having to worry if the coments will be published) with some pictures thrown in for fun.

frelich said...

Yehupitz
You seem to actually think you are the most objective person in the universe.
What makes you think that?

yehupitz said...

frelich,
No I don't. I call it as I see it. I don't care to know why you felt a need to say that and ask me that. Why can't people just type their opinions without second-guessing and insulting, implied or otherwise?

frelich said...

Yehupitz
Frankly ,the reason I commented was the feeling I get from your comments that you are a know-it-all.
Your comment on the what-if-a-beis-din for example(amongst other pearls) was just silly, pardon me.
Your take as someone who did not know Lubavitch AND has discussed this with Lubavitchers is about as unobjective as you can get.That maybe ok,IF, YOU OWNED UP TO your prejudice and did not claim to be objective.
I personally cannot stomach partisan people, but the most difficult kind that claim to be judging impartially are just detestable.
As a communal rabbi, who not learn a bit about humility.Not "leshem shomayim" even, just so your congregation does not turn on you.Hubris is a universal turnoff

Dayan said...

“Secondly, and this is the sad part, the reason a Beis-Din would have found in favor of BG is essentially by assuming what RaCHaL and that side were claiming: That the RaYYaTZ was lying in his letter to Marx. Only many a Chareidi Beis-Din's contempt for Civil Law, and presumption almost any document is a Shtar Havrochas (sp?) might have won BG the case. But that would not reflect well on that Beis Din.”

I think that knowing the make up of Chassidus better than a secular court, a Bes Din would be more likely to view any statement otherwise as merely an attempt to get the Seforim into America. In any other Chassidus, is there any doubt that all those are property of the Rebbe!?! It doesn’t reflect badly on the Bes Din, it reflects badly on the frum Olam!!!

yehupitz said...

As I said, I didn't claim to be objective. I call it as I see it.

Perhaps it's the fact that I don't troll and flame that makes you think that I "detestabl"y and "hubris"tic see myself as objective. That says more about you than it says about me.

If you disagree with my conclusions, or if they "turn" you "off", I can live with that. Just zai a mentch, bitte.

frelich said...

"That says more about you than it says about me."
Let's say that it says more about me than about you,k?Do you think that argument will hold water in your second shtelleh??I"m not a rabbi anywhere.
Again as I noted with some typos, learn a little anivus,even shlo leshem shomayim.It's a good way to hold onto a job

Anonymous said...

Anyone who wants to know more about the Rashag's personal life in his later years should ask Chaninah Sperlin, Shloymee Yunik, & Sruli Friedman.

-- ZIY

Anonymous said...

You know what, I would like to know about these guys personal lives in those years....

Anonymous said...

ZIY -
Add Yossi Lipkin (shliach in Kfar Saba) to that list.

I posted a link to some of his memories (from shturem.net) earlier in the 220+ comments here..

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