Tuesday, February 3, 2009

Lakewood, 5700

Lkwdguy asked when the Rebbe was in Lakewood. I guess he thought that BMG found the place, and it was always a Mokom Teyreh. It's not his fault.


The Rebbe arriving in Lakewood, 5700, flanked by his eynikel and RCL. I believe one of the gentlemen was Mr. Charles Paston, the Rebbe's host during his stay in the South Jersey town.


RCL, RSG, RSAK. Where's the Eynikel?

I have some more pictures of the Lakewood visit at another location. I can post them later for you guys. That's because you're the best bloggers in the world!

54 comments:

Anonymous said...

Its not your fault that you think anyone in Lakewood could give a shnitzel if the the friediker, or the shlita or the shlitas shlitas neshama in the shlitas guf that was once in the Nasis shver's Rebbe, was once in Lakewood, before there was even a lake there.

Wake up victim. Almost no one in BMG remembers that there was once a religion called Lubavitch. As far as they know Chabad was wiped out in 1988. Get over yourself. Youve been off the map for years.
The last time I heard someone mention Lubavitch in BMG was when the was a question if some local
J4J guys were the leftovers of what was once Lubavitch.

mechila for brains said...

There are two good things about this blog:The pics and the poster Schneur, the rest are the ramblings and idiocy of a two-bit-johnny-come-lately-Lubab.
Btw:Petzel, do you think most people know your dumb Lubab code words such as "the eynikel", RCL,RSG, all the persona non grata in the cult of "ahavas yisroel'

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

always nice to see good friends drop by....

Anonymous said...

to Anon 3:52
acoording to the teachings of the Malach, in williamsburg chabad was deleted in 1888

Kotler said...

Yes, Fakewood today is busy with much loftier topics than stupid Lubabs. Like how to suck 100 grand from some poor shlepper so that he can get a "Ben Teyreh" for a son in law and make his poor shlepper daughter slave away for him, thinking that she's going straight to Gan Eden now, or how to rob Jewelry stores with shotguns.

Twistelton-Twistelton said...

Lakewood was a huge resort town, full of frum hotels. My grand parents went for succos many years as a Succah was not possible in their apartment. The local Rabbi, Nissan Waxman found a local to donate his house to a yeshiva. Rabbi Waxman offered it to his Alma Mata Mir. When Rav Lazer Yudel refused, planning on reestablishing the Yeshiva in E’Y’, he offered it to RAK, who was a Landman of sorts as Waxman was a Slutzker boy (and indeed was editor of Pinkas Slutzk from where this is taken)

I have to agree that the pictures, obscure history and Schneur are the best parts of this blog.

other side of the lake said...

"before there was even a lake there."
That was funny.
What he means is there is a man made lake in the middle of town which is the official border of "the other side of the Lake" which is further down from the Yeshiva and most of the community.
It's actually building up nicely, like the rst of Lakewood and even has an official Chabad House and Shaliach, R'Nuchem Greenwald, and as is proper for an ir of bney torah, R'Nuchem is an accomplished talmid chochom who was supposed to be the mashpia in the never opened Lubavitcher yeshiva d'Lakewood, that Isser Zalman Weisberg had planned on opening

Friendly Anonymous said...

Breaks my heart

kool aided Lubob said...

Yo!
Big booze fest in the 'hood tonight!
Yud Shevat!
Free Kool Aid for everyone.
Yechi Hamelech!!!!

shimon ben gershon said...

All the Torah they learn in Lakewood is worthless.Only in Lubavitch do they learn real torah.Pnimiyus hatorah.
Only a rov needs to nigleh.Every Jew must learn Chassidus and Ramba'm

shimon s said...

"Where's the Eynikel?"

Eeeeeh, standing right there? What do you mean?

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

shimon

I mean the second picture

shimon ben gershon said...

The best thing for yiddishkait would be if they closed the Yeshiva in Lakewood.All they produce are a bunch of ignorant fakers.
If you can't send your kid to a Lubavitch yeshiva at least send him to Tora Vodaas.The learning is much,much better and they are very positive towards the Rebbe and Tanya and chassidus.They also allow college, so your kid can get a normal job and be proud.Again, even Tora Vodaas is not like a Lubavitcher yeshiva, but better than Fakewood.

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

shimon

stop hakking a chynik. Please!

shimon s said...

me too :-). I'm guessing by the hat...

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

it's not him.

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

The house the FR stayed in was 319 Forest Ave.

He stayed there from 8 Nissan 5700 till 7 Iyar of that year.

Anonymous said...

all the tora that has been learned in lakewood since is certainly from the hashpoya of the fr stay...

Twistelton-Twistelton said...

HT, are you sure. I was informed that it was 311 Forest Ave. Of course the address could have changed. If there were a few buildings on one property and they now are seperate properties, there will now be diffrent addresses.

LkwdGuy said...

Just for the sake of accuracy, I didn't ask when the Rebbe was in Lakewood. I asked where he stayed when he was here.

To your larger (?) point, that I never heard that the rebbe spent any time in Lakewood, is that at all surprising? Many rabbonim spent time in Lakewood back in those days and for a non Lubavitcher there is nothing extraordinary about this rebbe over the many other rabbonim. History of the Township of Lakewood was not a required subject when I attended Lakewood Cheder.

BTW, your gratuitous line about me thinking that BMG found the place is just dumb. I had relatives living in Lakewood long before BMG showed up.

Hyman said...

Anon 8:35:00 PM
Said:
"all the tora that has been learned in lakewood since is certainly from the hashpoya of the fr stay..."

Many would say the oposite. All the tora that he ever learned was certainly from the hashpoya that he stayed where BMG would one day be!

Anonymous said...

Good things that have come from this blog;

pictures
Shneurs posts
CB Tragedy's post
The right-on assesment of Satmar, Chaim Berlin and various other mobs.
The fairly impressive grasp of its host in the personalities of the last fifty years in Jewish history.
The gentle sense of humor of the host, who allows other to attack him.

Anonymous said...

although I am very very far from your hashkafik positions I must say there is no site I enjoy as much as this one. thanx

Anonymous said...

R' Hirshel --

AKAIK, R' Kalev (Charles) Pasten, is the one with glasses behind the FR's left.

That's from my recollections on the videos, when he shows the FR in, etc.

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

The above two comments here (the complimentary ones) make all that time and effort posting and moderating worthwhile.

THANK YOU !!!

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

By the way, the comments here about not learning Nigleh, and that all the Torah in Lakewood is worthless, c"v, etc. were written by provocateurs, haters who are trying to make Lubavitch look bad. I should really delete them.

Anonymous said...

I am new to this Blog is it possible th Make an Index to the Roshie tevios of all the R'
Thanks

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

That's a good idea. Maybe soon.

yoshe kalb said...

twistleton, it's alma mater. Alma Ata is in the former USSR. R'leivik is buried there.

Twistelton-Twistelton said...

"and even has an official Chabad House and Shaliach, R'Nuchem Greenwald, "

There are three Chabad institutions in lakewood. Chabad shul, a Yeshiva run by the Head Shliach, Rabbi Chazanow of manalapan with around 15 Buchorim headed by a Shapiro, and a Youth at risk yeshiva run by a Fogel. Small, I think it is run from is house.

Anonymous said...

Vchi zu blvad asah lanu ben Amram? I must also join the compliment-fest and admit that, though there are a milion other similiar blogs, none manage to toe the line of being dignified and respectful while still being open and honest like this one.

This is, imho, a unique blog and all you kvetchy menopausal attackers who visit every five minutes to see if there's a new post, should have the decency to comment your thanks to the hardworking moderator and host.

Hurray for Hershel

schneur said...

In the 1st picture the man with the homburg hat and mustache is rav Waksman.
I have heard that in the 2nd picture SBG was airbrushed out, but maybe he had college registration that day ?
Lakewood was the prime Jewish resort town of those days prior to the advent of air travel. The Mizrachi Convention was sometimes even held there. many of the hotels were fairly kosher . Are there still any kosher hotels there besides the capitol ?
I have not seen the films issued by Rabbi Krinsky , but in Deutsch's film we have several minutes of lakewood footage including the rebbetzin "praving " a tisch.The films were made by the Kramer family..

schneur said...

Rabeysai.
I am interested in Mr. Palmer of Chicago. I know he owned a funeral home. think he was a bachur. And I heard the 6th Rebbe liked to hear him davening for the amud. Anyone have a photo or more information. Thanks in advance!

Anonymous said...

"Many would say the oposite. All the tora that he ever learned was certainly from the hashpoya that he stayed where BMG would one day be!"
Michoelllll,Where are you?No mochoah against Hyman hatzadik who posted this menuveldik statement against the Rebbe RAYAT"Z? Oh,I forgot your only makpid when some misnagdeshe "godol" is besmirched.

Arthur said...

I knew Mr.Palmer very well as a child.When he would come to NY for a Yoma Dipagre, he would stay at our house since we lived across the st.from 770 on Eastern Parkway.He was somewhat eccentric
and a bochur ad sof yomov.Not many remember him.He was a big chosid of the Frierdike Rebbe but had a falling out with Rabeinu for reasons that I would rather not discuss on line.If anything else comes to mind I will post it.

thanbo said...

My old officemate was a Lubavitcher who lives in Lakewood. He would go to the Satmar mikve, because they had 3 boros, both up/down and side by side, all connected.

Milhouse said...

Thanbo, what's your chidush? Of course there are many Ls in Lakewood now. But not in 1940.

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

Twisty:

according to Reb Berel Levin in תולדות חב"ד בארצות הברית it was 319.

Twistelton-twistelton said...

"according to Reb Berel Levin in תולדות חב"ד בארצות הברית it was 319"

I wasn't there. But I DID rent in 311 Forest (next door). Manager told me in the name of the owner (who WAS there) that the LR stayed in THAT (311) building. Possible the buildings (which are exactly alike) were once one property and used the same address, but are now seperate and as such have diffrent addresses. In other words, the building 311 used to use the address 319 Forest.

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

?נו
so who's going to do the Homework? Call Lakewood Town Clerks, or whatever they call them, and find out if the address was changed?

thanbo said...

Milhouse: Because people are writing off Lakewood as some kind of terrible non-Torah place. So if L's choose to live there, it can't be that bad.

Anonymous said...

arthur: i tought that evry one that was a chusif of the FR was mekabel malchiso of the RMashplease tell me the truth

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

anonymous

and this proves what???

new startup said...

this proves that he is not dor hasviei just a new startup

An Ailmesher said...

In the הפרדס for that month, it mentions where Rayat"z stayed. Don't remember the exact number but it was on Forest Ave. between 3 & 4 sts.

To you 2 anonymous clowns at the beginning of the comments, what do the years 1888 and 1988 signify? Probably nothing like the rest of your comments.

Arthur said...

"this proves that he is not dor hasviei just a new startup"
Not so.We find that this occurred quite often throughout the history of Chabad where certain Chassidim, for variuos reasons,did not accept the nesius of a new Rebbe.As an example you have the Malach who broke away from the Rebbe RASHA"B.The same holds true for many other rebistves.

mechila for brains said...

Goat,
Quit patting yourself on your dirty back using your own 'anonymous' posters.
Btw, knowing what a scumbag you are I'm sure you'd "enjoy" the news that the founder of Aish is no longer.
You scumbags are probably making lechaims

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

Wow, thanks for outing yourself as an Aish guy. Sorry to hear the bad news. BION I did not know till you posted it. I'm sure the only guys toasting it are in OS...

מחילה פאר ברעינס said...

Wow, the Goat does not sleep nor does he slumber.
Anybody ever tell you you have a pea sized brain?Why does everyone who sees Lubavitch for what they are,naive well meaning fellows at best or scumbag charlatans as many are,need to be an 'Aish' guy?
Do I even remotely sound like someone from a non religious background, (aka baal tshiva)?
Now go back to your Vodka-koolaid and lechaims.
ד"א דו מאכסט א גרויסע קידוש שם "כאבאד

Milhouse said...

"this proves that he is not dor hasviei just a new startup"

Look at the beginning of Sefer Melochim; there were quite a few chasidim of Dovid Hamelech who didn't accept Shlomo Hamelech. All that meant was that there was a chisoron in them, not in him or his nesi'us. Similarly Rechav'om was the legitimate successor to Shlomo, even though the vast majority of klal yisroel rebelled against him and followed Yerov'om.

Anonymous said...

"Goat,
Quit patting yourself on your dirty back using your own 'anonymous' posters.
Btw, knowing what a scumbag you are I'm sure you'd "enjoy" the news that the founder of Aish is no longer.
You scumbags are probably making lechaims"
No more so then you "scumbags" did when the Lubavitcher Rebbi was niftar.
By the way does the name "Michila for Brains" mean that your asking "Michila" for lack of them?

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

Mechilah

It seems like you have some sort of posterior obsession that you speak like a six year-old. Do you really think that it helps your cause to speak that way? Now people will begin to see things your way and see me for the terrible person that I am? Let me help you out here; speak intelligently and maybe your message will be heard! oh, wait. I forgot. You have no message. Oh, well. I guess I win.

"Hey there, guy, pass the vodka." BURP!

Anonymous said...

>>Yes, Fakewood today is busy with much loftier topics than stupid Lubabs. Like how to suck 100 grand from some poor shlepper so that he can get a "Ben Teyreh" for a son in law and make his poor shlepper daughter slave away for him, thinking that she's going straight to Gan Eden now, or how to rob Jewelry stores with shotguns.

Right. Cause that's the way it is in Lakewood. (In case you are too dense to get it, I meant that sentence sarcastically).

>>By the way, the comments here about not learning Nigleh, and that all the Torah in Lakewood is worthless, c"v, etc. were written by provocateurs, haters who are trying to make Lubavitch look bad. I should really delete them.

But the Rebbe did say that the CI is jealous of children who learned Tanya because he did not learn Tanya and Tanya is the pnimius of Torah. So those haters are not so far from what the Rebbe actually maintained.

snag said...

Agudas Harabbonim with R. Leizer Silver and others had a convention in Lakewood in 1930, FYI.