Friday, January 7, 2011

שבת ג' שבט איז זלמן משה'ס יארצייט



ר' זלמן משה איז געווען מגדולי החסידים בדור הקודם און דער שווער פון ר' אברהם מאיארער. ער איז געווען א שוחט און אן עובד השם נפלא, פלעגט לערנען חסידות שעות ארוכות, דאווענען שעות ארוכות און שחט'ן אביסל אויף צום לעבן. ער האט געהאט א מסורה אז זיי שטאמען פון רש"י הקדוש און פון דארט איז די פאמיליע נאמען. רז"מ איז ארויס פון רוסלאנד אין די 30'ער יארן און איז אוועק אין כפר חב"ד אין תשי"ב
מיר וועלן בעז"ה בקרוב באשרייבן דער נייער ספר וואס ר' אברהם'ס אייניקל ר' משה יוסף רובין האט נישט לאנג צוריק ארויסגעגעבן

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

in what ways have you improved your avodas hashem from being inspired by his legacy?

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

who's legacy? and why do I have to tell you in what ways I improved? who are you?

Guravitzer said...

This entire site is a tribute to Zalman Moshe. Especially the mortar guns in the comments.

Isaac Balbin said...

Anonymous: What is bothering you? Is it that there is a post about a Chosid? Is it that there is a post about a Chosid by someone you don't respect? I simply can't ascribe any other motive to you than Sinah?

Anonymous said...

you should have posted as well that it was Rav Moshe Soloveichik 70th Yahrzeit. Before coming to America he was a Rov in Chasolovitch which was chabad town but they always had non chosid rov you will do some research and you will you will find what I am writing about.

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

yes, we know all that.
I mentioned RZM because I had just read about him and remembered the day.

An Ailmesher said...

For the uninitiated, could you please let us know what R"ZM's family name was?

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

היצחקי

Anonymous said...

What will your legacy be, tzig?

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

you first

An Ailmesher said...

His name in Russia was Hayitchoki? Does that mean that he was ben achar ben from Rashi?

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

yes, that was their mesora

not BAB, since Rashi had no sons, but from the RaSHBaM

Anonymous said...

Tzidkaso oimedes la'ad

An Ailmesher said...

Hirshel, that "ben achar ben" was intended as a joke.

I'm suspicious of people that claim yichus going back to the hoary past. Why would Rashi's descendents take the name of Rashi's father rather than that of Rashi himself. The family name Tribush (or Trivish, Dryfus, etc.) are mentioned in Minhagei Vermaiza as being descendents of Rashi. I never heard of the name Haytzchoki as a family name of Rashi's descendents. If someone knows of a source please let me know.

Sounds like a bubbe maisa - I could imagine what RZM would have had to say if someone else had claimed such a yichus, being the sharfer that he was.

Anonymous said...

תאות רשעים . . .

hayitzchaki said...

http://mentalblog.com/2005/06/kopust-and-bobruisk-chabad-dynasties.html

http://mentalblog.com/2005/03/let-there-be-druya.html

Anonymous said...

ailemesher: this is a yichus zalman moshe gave over to his children, it does not have any current documented source. just a family mesorah

Isaac Balbin said...

Anonymous. I certainly was aware of R' Moshe's Yohr Tzeit, and I mentioned a little torah from him on my own blog, and also reminded R' Telsner from Chabad about this on Shabbos, but I don't expect Tzig or R' Telsner to post or speak about it! Today is the Sfas Emes's Yohr Tzeit. I am sure someone will talk about it, but if Tzig doesn't I guess you'd require him to as well?

What is bothering you about R' Zalman Moshe? Surely it's a nice thing for the Rubin boy (okay, I know his sister) to write about their Zeyda and/or for Tzig to mention it? The Rubin boy, as I understand it, has a keen interest in genealogy, and has unearthed a few distant relatives in his travels.

Berel said...

R'Berel Shvarstsman, s-i-l bezivug rishon of R'Aharon Kotler and father in law to one or more Roshei Yeshivas BMG and father of rosh yeshivasLakewoodEast was a cousin once removed.His mother was a first cousin

Anonymous said...

It's quite interesting, b/c RZM's talmid - R' Mendel Futerfas - was also from tze'etzaei R"T (and was niftar on his yartzeit - 4 Tamuz).. So they were related apparently.

There's a beautiful story R' Yoel tells, how as a youngster in Tel Aviv, he asked RZM how to write a pan to the Frierdiker Rebbe (this was b'chayav). The question was a simple technical one. But RZM told him to come to his house, and sat by the table mit an erenstkeit, while every additional word he'd write "ana l'orer etc.." he started crying "ploch'en".. That was R' Yoel's education to PaN writing..

Grainom said...

isaac, your blog is so aptly named. comgratulations on its opening.

Anonymous said...

An Ailmisher
Your pilpul is too weak to refute a kabula of a family, maybe the family had a written Yichus Letter till Rashi and it vanished in the USSR

An Ailmesher said...

Alright, as long as he didn't claim that he's descended from Tosefos.

Tziki kedera said...

acording to r berel wien (and others ) all askenazi jews are rashi einiclach...

pitputim said...

Thanks Shmuel.

Anonymous said...

Tziki
Where did Wien Write it? it is a interesting observation, since a lot of Ashkenazi jews are from Inquisition refugees from Spain, Portugal which was sefardic

Grainom said...

your welcome isaac

Anonymous said...

1) i heard him mention this at a shiur
2) its basic math...make a heshbon how many decendants after a 1000 years...
3) if one is sefardi it doesn't count...many askenyazy jews are partly 1492 refugees...rav wein ,the oruch ha-shulhan etc...
4) rav wein is a nephew of rav tzodek ha cohen...

Anonymous said...

so was reb saul lieberman of JTS

Grainom said...

skip the "reb"
jts=kfira

Anonymous said...

But Saul Liberman was no Kofer, I don't believe that if someone is employed by a house of Kefira, you become a kofer? Reb Moshe was against it, but reb Saul knew his ways in torah too, give him so much credit.