Read the editorial and tell me what you think. And they say that Rabbi Frankfurter is a "משכיל." Fooey. Why does he play into their hands? There are better and more "enlightened" (sorry) ways to make the same point! Does he not know that a public figure like himself can't go around condoning violence like that, no matter the precedent and no matter what the ים של שלמה says. Some things are best left
You take that back right now, Rabbi Frankfurter!
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how do i enlarge it to br able to read?
click on it.
had to open in a new tab..... whatever.
the money quote is "a great-grandson of shneur zalman of liadi"
afra lepumei!!! whatever happened to r', rabbi or rav?!
typo, no doubt...
sounds "Maskilish," no?
trying babyishly to sound academic
The "a great-grandson of shneur zalman of liadi" is from Sarna, not Frankfurter.
That being said, the article is apologetic drivel.
I am waiting for the Day when Frankfurter will be tied to a zali Ezcalade SUV and pulled around the streets of Kj for daring to quote RJBS of Boston.. and all the kids will scream from thw windows Kocho Yieosa Leish.....
If my minds serves me well, the Reshal bases his pesak on a Terumas hadeshen, who writes regarding beating a wife who his disrespectful to his parents, that he can beat her up.That would place this wanabee Talmid chochem/sophisticate Frankurter as condoning domestic abuse...I hope Charlie Hynes will not send some goons to pick him in the break of dawn for the violation of instigating domestic violence.
I think he opened himself a can of worms.
Can you argue with his point? Prove him wrong instead of rabble-rousing. I am not saying he is right (J. Sarna is a first cousin of my father and of Chagai Segal of Arutz Sheva fame and the plot to blow up the har habayis) I am just saying we should use our intellect instead of shrill anger.
Frankfurter is getting his material from blogs! http://torahmusings.com/2012/07/vigilantism-anarchy-and-jewish-law/
harry shaigets maryles saw your post and started pishing his drivel about chareidim, but was too cheap to buy the magazine and too evil to give attribution to you here...
Well written post.We have to watch out with kanous
Blogs are a great thing for people who suffer from ADD. There is not one inteligent comment here about the interesting points raised in the editorial. Sorry.
that's because all that needs to and can be said has already been said by me!
:-)
Ah, hirshel, that's real chsidishe shiflus
Good or bad:Failed Messiah, picked up this story with no attribution .
חסידישע שמינית שבשמינית
again?! I really need to watermark EVERYTHING!!!
anon
"Blogs are a great thing for people who suffer from ADD. There is not one inteligent comment here about the interesting points raised in the editorial. Sorry."
is this a press release from the frankfurters...?
does frankfurter need a answer? does he want to start hooliganism and revolutionary guards in this modern day society?
Is the yam Shel shloma the way to go?
Reb Chaim Valozhiner (in the back of the masseh rav)writes that in our days you can"t even say Divrie Tochocha by putting down people.Is it Achsher dora?
Tzig-
Some of your garbage is better left un-blogged.
I know you don't like R Frankfurter, but is this the best you could come up with?
Shaul S
I like him very much. When I see him on the street I make a point to say hello. He sometimes makes as if he doesn't see me...
So no, I have no problem with the man.
But I see that you do...
Hirshel, did Failed Shmatta take the Ami snapshot from you without giving credit?
Frankfurter is out of his mind for using these mareh mekomos to justify violence against 7 year old girls who according to the Debriciner are not yet old enough to require dressing tzniusdik. And what was really driving the violence of the Sikrikim was an attempted real estate grab. That's why the Toldos Avrohom Yitzchok Rebbe called them mashchisim and Rav Edelstein from Ponivizh said they are making chilul Hashem.
Frankfurter is also an am haaretz. He doesn't need to go digging around for zeitigga Rishonim when we know the limud from the Gemara when you are meshachrar eved Ivri you can hit him to keep him away from the goyta shifcha who is now assur to him.
can we know more aboutר' חיים צבי שניאורסון and his life and legacy?
he was a grandchild of d alte rebbe and was moser nefesh for klal yisroel, why is the censor of lubavitch cutting this tzadik out of their history books
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=30439&pgnum=77
http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%A6%D7%91%D7%99_%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%9F
time 4 truth 2 shine
censor of Lubavitch cutting him out? where do you see that?
why do you insist on making up stories?
time 4 the haters 2 stop with their lies
The little girl was never spit on... When the story first broke in september she was only yelled at... A few months later when it hit TV politions with an agenda added on new storys mamash a blood lible...
Not true that the girl was not spat on, unless you say that she and both her parents were lying when interviewed.
And even if the meshugoyim only yelled at her, it is also assur. Oynoas devorim & there is a limud from lifnei ivair on scaring little kids.
show me reb chaim tzvis books reprinted!
lubab prints thousands of seforim sichos pamphlets, hashkafa etc, but nobody ever reprinted reb chaim tzvis books nor his thoughts, never mind embracing his courage and love for the jewish people, not even quoting him!
isnt lubab about caring for jewish people & destiny?
so now not printing his books=censorship?!
Yair fluffman jumped on the bandwagon to bash the Am Acher magazine, wow he's late to the party! He had to steal it from scotty who stole it from you, hence the delay.
Shmatta reworks all the jpeg files as his own instead of leaving the original URLs which conceals that he took them from others. And lately he rewords every newswire too because AP / Reuters / Whoever don't have enough of anti-frum slant.
Hoffman by the way was caught using an alias a few years ago to attack Rubashkin critics. He first of all did not disclose that he was a part time OU employee who is clearly biased as a "journalist". He was caught because his alias "Ben Nathan" was attached to an email address that he forgot he had attached many years earlier to his real name and because he is called up for aliyos as Yair ben Nosson. He was outed by Shain & Mendlowitz.
shine
"he was a grandchild of d alte rebbe and was moser nefesh for klal yisroel, why is the censor of lubavitch cutting this tzadik out of their history books"
he is probably listed in sefer hatzetzoim.. You are a idiot that u never even heard of that sefer...
Shine
", but nobody ever reprinted reb chaim tzvis books nor his thoughts, never mind embracing his courage and love for the jewish"
can you plz give us his philosophy in a nutshell?
Maybe Lubavich should print AJ twerskies books too?OR RBZ of Bobov torahs they are is also einikelech
Ombudsman
"to justify violence against 7 year old girls who according to the Debriciner are not yet old enough to require dressing tzniusdik. "
Add to that the Chazon ish too?
What a cheap sensationalist????
oh so when satmar doesnt print lubab stuff they don't censor?!
r u out of...
the lubabs doesent approve his stuff 4 a reason
it's time 4 each sect 2 search their own, and the truth therein.
Ok, i found that A maamar was written leilu nishmas the mumbai-chabad kedoshim...
http://old.lifshiz.macam.ac.il/tafrit/odot/maim/maimtassach/bartor.pdf
Shine
you are a great researcher....
the Rambam in sefer hamitzvoth Mitzva 205( mitzvas tochocha)writes that you should stop him from the Avira, but not hitting.... Maybe the Marshal found a different rishon
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