Thursday, February 14, 2013

In 1958 Rav Kook was still a מקור for Dayan Weisz from Manchester

Looking at this Tshuveh (Siman 'ט) with an iota of objectivity you might say that he was using RAYH"K to make his point, and not so much because he held of him as a m'kor. Sort of like what the Satmarers do when they wanna make a point regarding their favorite subject, Zionism. They'll bring Belzer letters and show it to a Belzer, and then they'll show letters from the Rebbe Rashab to a Lubavitcher, and so on. But then again, we all know that when asked why he's taking Rav Weisz as dayan in the Edah when he's not a kano'i, the Satmar Rov said that a Talmid Chochom can become a kano'i, a kano'i won't become a talmid chochom so quickly... Which is what happened; Rav Weisz fell in line with the Edah theology very nicely, just like the SR foretold. We bring you the Tshuveh in Minchas Yitzchok, and then the Tshuveh in Kol Yisroel from Rav Kook in 1933.


קול ישראל courtesy of  תוך כדי דיבור on Otzar haChochmah. Minchas Yitzchok courtesy of HebrewBooks.


Ich Bin a weber said...

2 icons in the willi crowd stem from Rav Weber (Shezuri)the person to whom the responsa of Rav Kook, is intended.
Rav Gelbman the offical(by the Zali group) baker of the 55 volumes Moshian Shel Yisroel.
Rav Pinki Weber(Shezuri) the talented Badchan, who lately printed a nice sefer al hatorah,

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

I had no idea! who was the 1st one in America? And I thought that Shezuri was a Lelover Chossid?

shulem said...

Wasn't r'moshe veyber from yerushalayim, a chbdsker, who had some shayches with rav kook?
Ido erlich,(father of mishpachas aryeh ehrlich) who became a lubab, and adopted r'moshe(or was it the other way around...)
r'moshe was a tsadik that even non lubob held of

Anonymous said...

Weber was a lelover still from rdtz''sh z''l.

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

but apparently that was in the Holy Land only. They were Sanzer Chassidim

Ich Bin a Weber said...

"I had no idea! who was the 1st one in America?"
what dont you know? I wrote that Gelbman is a einikel from Rav Kooks Mazkir Shezuri..
I think that he is a einikel from the famous or infamous Rav of Ada

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

who was the first Weber in America is what I wanna know?

The "Rav Ada Bar Ahva" was Shezuri's father, no?

Anonymous said...


Ich Bin a Weber said...

"The "Rav Ada Bar Ahva" was Shezuri's father, no?
I dont know if a einikel or a son?
Shezuri should of been a bobover chosid, The first Reb Shlomele of bobov was on his side, by the parsha

ארץ ישראל said...

ר' שמואל אהרן וועבר-שזורי היה בנו של ר' בן-ציון וועבער

ערכו באינצ. תדהר:

ר' בן-ציון היה בנן של הרב מאדא, ר' מרדכי אליעזר וועבער ז"ל שעלה לאר"י

הנה מאמר בהמבשר מדור 'למשפחתום' למשפחת וובר:

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

תודה לך, ר' ארץ ישראל

Vohliner said...

Wich parsha?