Thursday, February 21, 2013

Government Intervention in Yeshiva Acceptance Policies

I'm not quite sure what the reaction on the street was when they heard that they Government was intervening in יח"ל'ס acceptance policies, but it's fair to say that there were differences of opinion. I imagine that some people didn't care for the fact that they only accepted עילויים. Why not accept every בחור שנפשו חשקה בתורה? That's what they would say, is what I'm saying here. What? You don't think people had issues with the establishment back then? Well, then, they did. I can assure you of that. No matter how great the Rabbonim and leaders were. In this case it seems like the Yeshiva was very happy to accept him - and made that clear to the authorities - as long as he fulfills their criteria, which is to be tested on 200 blatt Gemoroh+Tosfos ba'al peh...

 

13 comments:

azigra said...

my sister in law's great uncle was the bochen (admissions tester) in chachmei lublin, or at least one of them.

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

and who, may we ask, was your sister-in-law's great uncle?

azigra said...

Pinchas Hirschprung

Fact Checker said...

Azigra
was reb Pinchas a bochen as a bocher?
or he was married before the war?

rebcharles said...

דעם צייַטונג אַרטיקל מיסטאָמע האט אַ דאַטע. פארוואס קענען מיר נישט זען די דאַטע?

אויב מיר הייבן אָנקוקן אין דאָקומענטן אָן קייַן דאַטעס, זענען מיר צוריק צו "איך האב געהערט פון הרב מאַלקיאַל שאָפער'ס פּלימעניקס

rebcharles said...

one more point

If this bokhur'l was somehow accepted after all, do you not think that he would have been subjected to a certain amount of "hazing" for forcing the issue thru the Melikha?

Anonymous said...

If a bochor realy wanted to learn he can get in for example poseh''d rov vosner shlita

azigra said...

PH was 21 when Mayer Shapiro died so I would assume he was single when he began administering entrance exams.

JS said...

The issue wasn't that he couldn't afford tuition, rather than the elitism of the yeshiva? Or did I misunderstand the article? (mine yiddish is not the greatest)

I have no doubt people had issues with the establishment, but I think that kind of elitism was pretty much accepted as a part of life (or, you became a communist).

Bobov Chusid said...

Bobov rebbi took in every single bachur in his yeshiva.

i"ll add more later, regarding this topic.

yankel said...

Either Bobov or Yacha"l have to change their names. They are not both yeshivos. They both did wonderful work, but not the same at all. It is like calling girls elementary schools by the same name as a beis hamedrash were men learn be'iyun all day. They are not the same and should not be compared with each other.

pitputim said...

JS: Elitisim of the Yeshivah, or perhaps this is what they thought a Yeshivah ought to be?

Is there anything wrong with focussing on quality?

If anything, perhaps our lack of focussing on quality and instead of universalistic mediocrity has created masses of people who should never be seen as Rabbonim. We seem to have so many bad apples now. Surely the Torah would have protected us? It would have, but Torah was not Lishmo, it was a livelihood.

There is a Chiyuv when B'Lechtecha BaDerech. Unfortunately, so many of them are never BaDerech. They are stuck to wooden benches, and morph into furniture.

Anonymous said...

do you have a date of the newspaper