Monday, December 8, 2008

Same House - Different Result



LINK TO VIDEO

The Nikolsburger Rebbe, residing here in Monsey, has seemingly made a name for himself. When I was growing up talk among my Satmarer friends was that he was a clown - if you'll excuse me. That's the way people spoke of him, as if he were some cult leader. He was a Satmarer talmid, a Benon Shel Kedoshim, who bothered some people with his Rebbishe antics, so they chucked him out of Satmar in the early 80's sometime. As it that wasn't enough somebody decided that it was a good idea to involve his wife in this matter and turn her against him too. The end result was that they went to the Rov, if you know what I mean... Badchan Yoely Lebovitch is his son from his first marriage. The Nikolsburger Rebbe has created a fusion of a very frum yet very accepting chassidus where all are welcome and all are treated admirably. It may not be a mainstream group like the big ones but I hear good things about the place. One of the things they said about him even back then was how charismatic he was, and that you had to be "careful" not be "farchapped" from him, especially when he says Torah.

Well, it seems like has made it his mission to get the word about the NR, posting video on youtube and other sites, this in addition to the "official" website I've seen somewhere online. One such video is the one we posted above, an actual audio clip that has a static image on the "cover." He cries bitter tears at the death of the 6 Mumbai Kedoshim, and let me tell you - call me a woos and a softie if you like, but it took me a few minutes to dry the tears that flowed when I heard him cry and scream about the deaths and what a terrible tragedy it was. There seems to be genuine pain for the suffering of the murdered, the families, the yesomim, and for the entire Jewish people. The bechiyos there are astounding. There's no talk of the Zionists, nor of flag draped coffins, nor of funerals in Hebrew and Presidents and Ministers eulogizing. It seems like you can be a devoted Satmarer and not be a heartless fool like the writer of the editorials in Der Yid. Not that we didn't know this before, but it's reassuring nevertheless.

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

Call me a woos and a softie too.
(And thats coming from a cold Lithuanian).

Anonymous said...

...has seemingly made a name for himself. When I was growing up talk among my friends was that he was a clown - if you'll excuse me. That's the way people spoke of him, as if he were some cult leader. ...a Benon Shel Kedoshim...One of the things they said about him even back then was how charismatic he was, and that you had to be "careful" not be "farchapped" from him, especially when he says Torah.
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Funny thing is they said that about a Rebbe who was nistalek on 3 tamuz, if I close my eyes and change the nigun, the toireh could've been said in a neighborhood that has long turned dark...

Hirshel Tzig said...

well then, I guess they say it about anybody who seems to be doing good things and has an effect on people...

SatmarTC said...

Nikolsburger Rebbe was a Satmar Rebbe proposed candidate back in 79

Anonymous said...

You can't say it about the ones who aren't charismatic, and don't farchap people, but are genuine

Anonymous said...

Is the Chof Vov Av Rebbe also on you charisma list? or he was certified genuine? if yes, can you provide the paperwork of that lab

Anonymous said...

Hirshel
I was told that there is a genuine Hesped by the genuine Tolner Rebbe can you get it please?

Hirshel Tzig said...

you talking to me?

mee too said...

Is it a song or a drasha???

Hirshel Tzig said...

torah at seudah shlishis. In Ziditchoiv it's done that way, with a nigun. The NR is a Ziditchoiver eynikel.

Anonymous said...

sounds like your ready to put away you yellow flag.

Anonymous said...

yitzchok ben avrohom - avrohom hoilid es yitzchok. yoeli lebowitzs father. proof that yoeli lebowitz is a kosher son.

Anonymous said...

http://haemtza.blogspot.com/2008/12/who-runs-world.html

The alte kaker is kvetching again

Hirshel Tzig said...

yellow flag? me?

Anonymous said...

I have seen him davening in L.A., he usually davens at a Chabad Shul her. He is very accepting of people from all walks of life. (Inculding some Hollywood types).
I am surprised by his Satmar origins, as I remember his quoting the Rebbe's sichos when he gave a drasha one Shabbos.

Josh said...

Given the recent popularity of ich vill zayn a rebbe maybe you should be concerned more with the nicklebacker rebbe.

Milhouse said...

About 20 years ago I had a friend who became his chossid. He had difficulty becoming mekushar to the LR, because he was so inaccessible. Here he had a rebbe who was a native English-speaker, and who had few enough chassidim that whenever my friend had a problem he could pick up the phone and speak to him. My friend nebach didn't have an easy life, and recently passed away at an early age, never having married or had children; he'd sometimes spend half an hour or an hour on the phone with his rebbe, and got a lot of chizuk. And he wasn't a gvir who could be regarded as an "investment"; this was the real deal.

n said...

saw him in rabbi lisbon's shul, los angeles 15 years ago, two years in a row, perhaps its an annual shabbes visit. Was very pro Rebbe/Lubavitch. I image he felt that way, and its not bad to raise donations either....

tzibaleh said...

next time tzig you listen to his torah, we'll have a "fatshayleh" between us. I hope it won't tear (as in torn).

Hirshel Tzig said...

GO AHEAD AND LAUGH. SEE IF I CARE.

SatmarTC said...

יואל לעבאוויטש was the first first one named after the Satmer Rebbe

Hirshel Tzig said...

REALLY? when was he born?

tzibaleh said...

yo talkin to me??

tzibaleh said...

have no fear i cried as well.

Hirshel Tzig said...

YOU SEE ANYBODY ELSE HERE?

Hirshel Tzig said...

The Rebbe Rashab said Ich bin mekaneh di Peylishe Chitzaynius. This is probably what he meant.

tzibaleh said...

re: his relationship with lubavitch, you realize that there's an element of opportunitism there.

Hirshel Tzig said...

OPPORTUNISM?

as opposed to when he goes to the Satmare Gvirim, where there it's all about shittos and NOT about money?!

I see...

tzibaleh said...

calm down hershel.
I respect him a lot, I'm going back a few years vchulu.

tzibaleh said...

BTW, he got me when he was describing the long wait & the hope & betochon before the news broke.
I totally lost it.

chily said...

If I'm not mistaken his nephew is Chaim Yankel Leibovitch, who became Lubavitch and was Aharonovs right hand man

ainikel said...

The same site has a loooonnnnggg and after a while boring Kuntres that gives more details of the R' Mechel/Satmar fight.

http://hamercaz.com/hamercaz/site/aoi.php?Search=aoi&keyw=V%27Emes#

For those of you who seem to be dying to know more about the background here . . .

browser said...

this realy belongs in the CIRCUS TENT,what a circus.
this guy should be in holywood,
the acting here is very obvious.
oh well,after all acting is the very esence of a rabbisteve

chaim

Anonymous said...

i know rhe guy he really took off in monsey cuz he has nice shul, housing, good schools and dough.

he is a talmid chacham and charismatic, but the promotion of him is gonna bring him down.

Anonymous said...

Browser
Can you say in front of a Sefer Torah that the guy is acting? It is true that he is charismatic and he has acting talent but he is a very deep emotional warm person

Anonymous said...

His from the only real rebbes to day .
all the other rebbes just were yoiresh their fathers,unlike the nikolsburg rebbe he really became rebbe on his own merit