Wednesday, September 20, 2006

Is Rosh Hashonoh in Uman all you need?



A good friend of mine left for Uman ysterday to spend Rosh Hashonoh there. He also took his 3 sons with him, it's quite a task to deal with 3 kids for a week in a foreign land. Before he left we we're discussing the trip and it's benefits, as perscribed by Reb Nachman himself:

1) That Rosh Hashonoh is עולה על כולנה and he'll go all out to draw the man out of the deepest spiritual depths if he spends Rosh Hashonoh with him, which now is done at the Tziyun in Uman.

2) That a child who comes to him before the age of seven (I'm not sure if that needs to be Rosh Hashonoh too) is under the full responsibility of Reb Nachman zt"l, and is guaranteed to come out OK.

Not knowing much about Breslov, (but a big fan of their music!) I asked if that was all it took, just come to the Tziyun and say the Tikkun HaKloli and you're good to go? He wasn't absolutely sure, with himself out of the Breslover scene for a while. It seems like there's a Kaboloh in Breslov that after a Breslover Chossid is Niftar they tell him to "demand" to see the Rebbe in his Heichal in Gan Eden, where supposedly the Rebbe "vouches" for him, but only after "passing a test".

Can any of my Breslover readers verify any of this?

Watch the "מעמד תיקון הכללי" on Erev Rosh Hashonoh in Uman LIVE!

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hirshel, why didn't you go to Uman and start a nusach Ari minyan there ? ;-) Or is there one there already ?

We should be zoche to a year of emese Yiddishkeit, be"H.

Anonymous said...

FROM HA'ARETZ:
--------------------------------------You're from Haaretz newspaper?" asks Shimon Abizmil from Netanya. "Haaretz in gematria (numerology) is twice Nachman. You see? Rabbi Nachman is everywhere, even with you."

A conversation with Abizmil requires tuning in to two channels simultaneously, because he sees himself as both a Lubavitch Hasid and a Bratslav Hasid. He has come to Uman with some of his students, who are becoming Orthodox. When he asks who attracts young secular people more, former Lubavitcher Rebbe Menachem Schneerson or Rabbi Nachman, he answers immediately: "Rabbeinu. First of all, his book speaks to those who are in a low place spiritually and aren't necessarily studying Torah. But what turns on the young people about Rabbeinu is his joy, and I'm talking about the guys of army age and older. Becoming Orthodox is hard, it's a burden, and Rabbeinu says that what true tzadiks should do is be happy, enjoy worshiping God."

A Simple Jew said...

Hirshel:

I was thrilled to hear that our mutual friend was going to Uman this year and am looking forward to hearing about his experience upon his return. While I am not a Breslover, I will try to attempt to answer your question.

Sichos HaRan #141 relates these words of Rebbe Nachman of Breslov:

"Bear witness to my words. When my days are over and I leave this world, I will still intercede for anyone who comes to my grave, says these Ten Psalms [the Tikun Klali] and gives a penny to charity. No matter how great his sins, I will do everything in my power, spanning the length and breadth of the creation to cleanse and protect him....

'I am very positive in everything I say. But I am most positive in regard to the great benefit of these Ten Psalms."

This obviously does not mean that a person can simply travel to Uman, mumble off 10 chapters of Tehillim ,and then live the rest of his life as a rasha. This act of coming to the tzaddik's kever and saying the Tikun Klali has to be accompanied with a sincere desire to do teshuva. If a person does this, Rebbe Nachman then gives his guarantee.

Rabbi Gedaliah Fleer expounded on the subject of Rebbe Nachman's promise more in his book Against All Odds

Hirshel Tzig - הירשל ציג said...

Snag

I believe there is a Nusach Ari minyan in Uman, one of the few separate Minyonim in Uman, which include Sefardim, Shick from BP/Yavniel and a קנאי from Monroe named Lieberman who's upset that they speak Ivrit in Uman, so he makes his own Minyan.

Mottel said...

The Rebbe once asked the chief Rabbi of Romania if he was a chossid, the CR respondid that he was a Breslover -the Rebbe wanted to know if it was b/c he didn't want a rebbe over him. (I forget the exact loshon but. . .)
Meaning too many people make it too easy tikkun kloli, dance etc.

Anonymous said...

did rabeinu mention to come after his passing too?

ggg said...

emeser emes

yitz said...

Mottel wrote: the Rebbe wanted to know if it was b/c he didn't want a rebbe over him.
And today's Lubavitchers?

Anonymous said...

There are two nusach ari minyanim in Uman: meshichisten and non-meshichisten. The break occurred last year, when the non-meshichisten couldn't handle the singing of "yechi".

Mottel said...

I'm not speak about all in Breslov -but there are those that take what they like from Breslov and make cholent with it . . .
It's not only by them, we have it too . . .