Showing posts with label Klausenberg. Show all posts
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Monday, June 28, 2021

בעלזער חסידים פארקויפן לאקשן צו די צייטונגן

 



So this clipping from 1960 or so announces to the Jewish world that young Berel Rokeach, known today as the Belzer Ruv, was to marry the daughter the of the Klausenberger Rov. After a six year engagement and when he turns 18. We all know this never happened, nor was such a shidduch ever sealed. So what happened? The יודעי דבר say that this was some kind of ploy to get young Berel to shape up. It's not easy being a young orphan. His father the Bilgorajer Rov passed away when he was barely 2 years old. Being that young orphan who everybody whispers about that he'll be the leader of Belz when he becomes of age doesn't make things any easier. So they decided that one way to get him to shape up was to tell him that a suitable shidduch is being found for him, but he'll need to undergo a farher, etc., and that means that no more fun and games, time to hit the seforim.















So the elders of Belz sat down and made a list of which gutte yidden had eligible daughters. They came upon the Klausenberger Rov. The good thing was that he had no bad blood with Belz, like some others did. Bobov comes to mind as one Rebbe who had.

Here's where it gets a little murky.

It seems like they pressured the Klausenberger Rov enough for him to agree to such a shidduch in principle. We all know that the Klausenberger didn't want or need yichus, he had plenty of that on his own. What he wanted from a prospective match for his daughters was bletter gemoroh, and as long as you were Jewish it didn't matter where you came from. I guess to a point. Many  - or all? - of his eidemer are from simple stock, but they passed the farhers. There was even a Lubavitcher bochur who had dreams of becoming his eidem... But that's for another time. So maybe the Klausenberger agreed to the shidduch after being pressured by a group of crusty Galitzyaners like himself provided that Berele would pass the farher just like anybody else. In the end, the Belzer Ruv married the daughter of the then Vizhnitzer Rosh Yeshiva and the rest is history. Reb Moshe'le Hager had already made a shidduch with the Skverrer Rebbe and today his sons-in-law are the leaders of the largest chassidisen in the world. Looking back, it would be hard to see that shidduch ever succeeding. וד"ל.

A search on Twitter shows you that PY Mund's Genealogy says that the two had a falling out early on in the Rebbistive, which began before he got married, and which may or may not have affected his chances at the shidduch.


Thursday, April 12, 2018

אסתיר פני | סיפור החורבן והשיקום של חייו של האדמו"ר מצאנז- קלויזבורג וקהילתו

פרישע סחורה - הערשט געבאקען אויף דער אינטערנעץ. א גוט שטיקל ארבעט האבען די צאנזערס אנגעמאכט. מ'ברויך זיי געבן קרעדיט. נישטא קיין ברירה
I just don't see how Sanz goes together with Prof. Leibowitz.

Tuesday, August 14, 2012

2 posts לכבוד כ"ו מנ"א...

  מרובים צרכי עמך.... פאר פרנסה מעג מען אפילו פארקויפען לאקשן. כפשוטו.

I'm not sure if this was Rabbi Wein's intention, namely to let the cat out of the bag and to tell us all that there REALLY is no difference between the OU and a "Heimishe Hechsher," but that's what he ultimately did. He tells us this in the name of the Satmar Rov, zt"l. But at the same time he justified the need for it, so that עמך ישראל can have פרנסה. Which is a truly noble cause, I suppose, even if it is a bit untruthful and insincere. After all, most people think that the ingredients are made in a 100% separate and kosher plant where no non-kosher products are produced. And that the people involved are all of the most noble and refined character. They also think that no leniences are employed - that everything that the holy Rabbi with the very W I D E brimmed hat is supervising is beyond the shadow of a doubt. Then again, Rabbi Wein was the head of the OU's kashrus division, so some salt should be used with what he says as well. Having said that, we can learn much about the Satmar Rebbe's Ahavas Yisroel to Jews that he came in contact with, even if they were "diametrically opposed" to his weltanschauung. Which shows us that all we need is come together and discuss our differences, so that we can see how similar we really are. If not for the fact that the SR would visit Miami and that RBW would go and visit him, even if he thought that the former thought of him as a Zionist heretic; we never would have had these fine memoirs, and then how else would Ami fill their pages?

נעכטן נאך מעריב, ד.ה. אור לכ"ז, שמועסנדיג מיט א סאטמארישע אידל האט ער מיר געזאגט אז לדעתו האט ר' בערל אינגאנצען נישט פארשטאנען דעם רב. אים האט ער געזאגט אז ער טוט עס נאר כדי אידן זאלען האבען דערפון פרנסה. אבער געמיינט האט ער אז באמת פארטרויט ער נישט די אנשי ה-אה יו די כופרים די ציונים די אפיקורסים, און דערפאר האט ער געוואלט אז ס'זאל זיין דערויף א "היימישן הכשר." קודם איז עס מיר שווער געווען אנצונעמען אזא סברה, אבער  אזוי, אז איך האב עס א פאר מאל איבערגעטראכט, האב איך אנגעהויבן איינצוזעהן אז וואס ער זאגט איז יש דברים בגו. אויב אזוי קענען די אלע פון אייך וועלכע האבען נישט געוואלט גלייבן די מעשה ווייל עס איז מגלה סוד - קענט איר שלאפען רואיג.




































Then we have the story of the famous court case that took place in the 60's in Eretz Yisroel between two of the generation's greatest Rabbonim: the Satmar and Klausenberger Rebbes. They were both descendants of Reb Moshe Dovid of Toltshava, besides for the latter being the former's former nephew from the latter's first marriage, (by way of his son-in-law the Yetev Lev of Sighet, zt"l,) who left a house - which was claimed by both of them. The house was turned into a הקדש by the Litvisher Rov of TzfasReb Simcha Hacohen Kaplan, but the SR said that the Toltshever had explicitly said that the house NOT be turned into one, but that his descendants rent it out. The SR said that since he was a descendant of the TR he was claiming the house. Without a copy of the will the court could not confirm it, so a "secret mission" to find the צוואה was initiated and the טריפה'נע היכל שלמה and Hebrew University libraries were used to help him in this case. Which is the part of the story/case that is reported here in this newspaper clipping. I have yet to find the story of the actual court case. That story - the story of how the great fighter of the Zionists used their courts when necessary - as do his 2 illustrious nephews today - that story needs to be told one day here.
























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  ספר ההספד בספר "בשמים ראש" מנכדו הרב ר' אשר אנשיל אשכנזי זצ"ל