Photo from Bechatzros (ha)Chassidim
(l-r) RAYF of Sadiger, unknown, the chosson, Reb Nosson Eichenstein the mechutan Reb Shmerel Gurarie, z"l. That's right, a Lubavitcher took a Peylishe Chossid for an eydem. And, noch, the son of a Gutter Yid! The bochur behind Reb Shmerel is the Chosson's brother, Reb Yissocher Berish, who would later be the Ziditchoiver Rebbe in Petach Tikvah, and IIRC he later became a Mechutan with the Spinker Rebbe of 56th Street....
Here's what I found out From Yiddish Wiki about the Eichenstein Chosson: He was a son of Reb Shia of Grosvardein, who passed away in 1945. Reb Shia was the son of Reb Osher Shaya of Prachnik, the son of Reb Yisocher Berish of Veretzki, Baal "Malbush LeShabbos VeYom Tov." Reb Berish was a son of Reb Sender of Ziditchoiv, who was a son of Reb Ahzikel Ziditchoiver, zt"l. Reb Ahzikel was a nephew of Reb Hershelle Ziditchoiver, the Ateres Tzvi. The Ateres Tzvi was the son of the first Reb Aizik of Ziditchoiv, who had 5 sons, במסל"ה, Berish, Moshe, Sender, Lipa, Hershel, and on them he said the Posuk במסל"ה נעלה, with his 5 sons vet men aroyf gein...
Reb Berish of Ziditchoiv
Reb Moshe of Sambur
Reb Sender of Komarna
Reb Lipa of Sambur
Reb Hershelle of Ziditchoiv.
Some of the Rebbishe Hoyfen that originate from Ziditchoiv, include Komarna, Ziditchoiv, Spinka, Koson, Tosh and others. I can't think if there was any family relation to Ruzhin/Sadiger, which is why I'm wondering why the Sadigerrer Rebbe would be bagleyten the Chosson here. Maybe because he was a Yossom, since his father passed away in Groswardein? And we won't ask why Gurarie took a non-Lubavitcher for an eydem, since it had happened before, with I believe Hirshel Gurarie being an eydem by the Radziner Rebbe, and because Der Eibershter iz mezaveg zivugim, און אפ'ן אייבערשטען פרעגט מען קיין קשיות ניט
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any relationship to the Eichenstiens of Queens ?or Chicago? The Novominsker Rebbe has some relationship their
anon, they are all ziditchoiver eineklach. (as is eichenstein from rjj edison)
I love the gray coat! You'll never see that today!
I"m a bit bothered that you never show or acknowledge any hakoras hatov to Telshe your fathers alma mater.Especially in light of hakoras hatov being a characteristic and hallmark of Telshe.
Here is a nice tribute to R'Chaim Schmeltzer zatsal, menahel of Telshe Chicago
http://jewishmusicplus.blogspot.com/2010/12/tribute-to-rabbi-chaim-schmelczer-of.html
It should be noted, that the present Sadigura Rebbe is the only Rizhiner Rebbe who is Rebbe after Rebbe starting from the Maggid.
You forgot that a Gurary married into Rizhin right here in New York !
The Zalmanov family was alos meshadech with Amshinov in Poland
some more info:
this chosson had a son who niftar young. the almonah married for 2nd zivvug the spinka's son (brother of R' Naftulche) who was killed in the tragic accident following the Baba Sali's levayah. Her 3rd zivvug is R' Beirish Meisels, son of the Uhaler from chicago/miami beach and former SIL of R' Moshe of Satmar.
The interesting thing about this history is that when R' Beirish's father was niftar, Zalman (jimmy) gurary was @ the levayah as an uncle and he sat next to the satmarer. Anyone who knows what happened during the satmar/lubab war of the 70's had a good chuckle.
Zalman Gurary was a Yossom and he didn't take the eydem, he was taken, but whatever.
I believe it was Reb Abish, the older brother, who's almoneh married first Goldman a Zvhiller son from EY, and later Berish Meisels (not Aizik, the one who was killed in the accident in '84)
Harry wrote about you people today. I guess it's a slow news day for everybody....
Harry is a hater.
YU boys learning chasidus makes Harrys' blood boil.
Platz avek
Everybody,
Harry's father was a achter chasidisher yid a chortkover chusid and Harry by seudas shabos had sings Chortkover niginim.What a shande oif zain taten!
Listen, what do you want from Harry, if a Chortkover einikel gives brechachts interview like he did to Hamodia!!!
Anon
"and he sat next to the satmarer"
which Rebbe in Satmar in the 70"s?
Reb Yoel Tab did not attend Levayes in the 70's
the gay event was no problem for Merilles, he didnt shed tears then,I guess Avoda Zora is worse then Gilu Aroyes. Does Merilles think that every souls is as soiled to be so goish?
I guess all the Kefira that is taught in Yeshiva Reb Yitzchok Elchonan, is no problem with Merilles, Chabad is the problem,
He is so far from the Tzadik Reb Aron Soloviechig...
please take him off from your masthead, you condemn your Rebbe as a Zorek even Lemarkolis
Why are u allowing nasty comments against Harry?
why do you not ask why he allows nasty comments against Chabad?
You really are a cult member!!
What has comments against Chabad got to do with personal attacks??
And he censors offensive comments, actually.
But get this into your thick head,
We are not makabel malchus.We don't think your rebbe was the greatest Jew ever.We are underwhelmed by his learning abilities and overwhelmed by the amount of damage that Lubavitch has done to the belief in the real Moshiach and authentic Yiddishkait.
You guys are troubled rabble rousers.Harry, very kindly called you on attempts at poaching.You as a stokholm syndrome victim, would sell your own mother down the river for the cult.
looks like an "anonymous" mental patient forgot his meds today....
Harry lets on his sites personal insults on the rebbe,
This whole kanoias of his to fight chabad teaching in YU is ludicrous,this is the biggest yiddishkiet problem in YU... I love the way this kofer hakol becomes a Kanoi,
what chabad can do to people? it turns them beserk....
ר' נתן מזידיטשויב השאיר שתי בנות, אחת נשואה לשניאורסאהן בן הג"ר ברוך שמעון ר"י טשיבין שמכהן היום כנשיא הישיבה.
ואחת היתה נשואה כמו שכתב הירשל ציג לעיל קודם להצדיק ר' אברהם אביש ווייס ממנה הולידה שתי בנות (אחת נשואה לר' משה שלמה אייכנשטיין בן ר' ישכר מפ"ת ומ"מ, אחי ר' אשר ישעי' חתן מהרנ"צ, השניה נשואה כמדומני לבן הרבי מוואסלוי) ואח"כ נישאה בשנית לר' יעקב לייב גאלדמאן מזוועהיל (אבי ר' אליעזר חתן סקווירא) ממנה הולידה בת אחת שנשואה לבן ר' ישעי' הרבי מטשערנאביל - ב"פ, חתונה זו התקיימה כשכבר היתה נשואה בשלישית לר' בעריש מייזליש והתקיימה באולמי עטרת חיה.
It seems (evident from klastar punuv) that "unknown" is also a Gurary brother (Reb Moishe?). As has been noted here Reb Zalman Gurary was an aidim of the Kapischnitzer ztz"l and he was an uncle of the Boyaner Rebbe shli"ta...
I believe I commented on this post earlier but I don't see my comment....
T"T Sheini
that's DEFINITELY not Reb Moshe Gurarie
The chosson's maternal grandfather was Rav Chaim Yitzchok Yerucham the Altstadter Rav who resided with his whole family in Vienna between the 2 wars. IIRC the Sadigerer Rebbe also lived there. This is probably the connection.
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