Thursday, November 20, 2008

What's Happening?!

Read This FIRST!

(From a commenter on VIN's story that SM Rubashkin is to remain in prison until his trial on January 20th. The Judge says he's a flight risk...)

..With liberty and JUSTICE for ALL. For all.

People, its time to wake up! Wake up! Wake up!

This man was NO flight risk. No Passport. A GPS monitoring device.

If he would have planned to run, he had 6 months. He didn't.

This is a scandal of the highest proportions. This is beyond a witchhunt.
This is a lynching! Only this time, it ain't no negro, just a kike jew boy.

Ah, yes...

We believe in the Flag of the United States of America
and in the Republic for which it stands,
one Nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.


While the The corporate heads of Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, GM, and AIG are ripping off the US Govt. and the American people of over a trillion dollars,
Rubashkin sits.

While twenty five people offered their primary residence as bail bond,
Rubashkin sits.

While over 600 letters from Jews all over the United States testified to the exemplary qualities of the defendant,
Rubashkin sits.

While OJ walks free for the murder of his wife,
Rubashkin sits.

While unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers roams free, having never served time,
Rubashkin sits.

While the big 3 drive their business into the ground and DEMAND bailouts, Rubashkin sits.

While we stupid fools still believe this is the land of the liberty and justice for all,
Rubashkin sits.

Rubashkin sits. He hasn't been convicted of anything yet, but he sits.

To quote the judge: "They cannot reasonably assure the safety of the community" if Sholom M Rubashkin is released.

They cannot reasonably assure the safety of the community?
They cannot reasonably assure the safety of the community??!!

Ah, yes, he is a very scary man...oh yes.....

Wake up - Time to speak out against this HORRENDOUS TRANSPARENT TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE.

It is a mockery of everything America stands for.
It is a mockery of the Justice System.
It is a mockery of the flag.
It is a mockery of our democracy.
It is a mockery of our freedom.

It is a sham. A kangaroo court who have already made their final decision, long before the trial has even begun.

Speak up! Let your congressman know how you feel. Let the judge know how you feel. Let the Governor of Iowa know how you feel. Let them know that you see the farce. Speak up.

That's the American way.


BrooklynWolf said...

Let the Governor of Iowa know how you feel.

IIRC, the charges are federal in nature. If so, then the Governor of Iowa has no power to intervene.

Now that I think about it, even if the charges are state, the Governor can't intervene. The best he could do (assuming the state gives him such power) is issue a pardon or grant clemency.

The Wolf

Josh said...

This is the most illogical thing I have read. According to the commenter, since Barack Obama is friends with William Ayers and the Auto industry is failing, we can clearly see that Rubashkin did nothing wrong.

Anonymous said...

Josh, have you EVER heard of a Kal Vachomer?!

Anonymous said...

Perhaps the judge wouldn't have accepted the argument if Israel hadn't been the favored destination for so many choshuve yidden facing charges.

Anonymous said...

You are talking sheer nonsense,Israel is no safe place they exradite

Anonymous said...

Maybe it's not the best time to ask, but why were all these folks so much more receptive of the "justice" meted out to the Spinker rebbe ?

Anonymous said...

Tragedies, tragedies, everywhere tragedies!

So hey, January 20th, hmm, it looks like maybe it won't be so freilich for Obama either if he even makes it to his January 20th date with fate... Rubashkin is a nice distraction for the real travesties of justice that Obama and friends are trying to pull on:

Obama's "Citizenship": Lawsuits hit US Supreme Court.


"The game's afoot, Watson!
On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.

Leo Donofrio's case, "Leo C. Donofrio, v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey, United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407," regarding Obama's citizenship has reached a new level. The case has been "distributed for conference."

This docketing today by the court should send ripples of fear through the Obama camp. Obama has been proceeding at lightening speed to put together a cabinet and take possession of the White House with the hope that he won't have to answer the question of whether or not he was "at birth" a "natural born citizen."

Every major news network, print and cable news like FOX, CNN and MSNBC, have ignored all the court cases challenging Obama's eligibility as sore losers or conspiracy theories. It might be in their best interest at this point to report this critically important meeting to take place on December 5, 2008, or lose what little credibility they have left.

If four of the nine Justices vote to hear the case in full review, oral argument may be ordered. The conference is scheduled for December 5, 2008, ten days before the meeting of the Electoral College…

The case originally sought, pre-election, to have the names of Barack Obama, John McCain, and Roger Calero removed from New Jersey ballots, and for a stay of the "national election" pending Supreme Court review of whether those candidates were eligible under the Constitution as natural born Citizens, as is required by Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States.

Leo Donofrio brought his case from a lower New Jersey court to the NJ Supreme Court -- was denied -- and then he filed an emergency stay application in the United States Supreme Court on Nov. 3, 2008, before the Honorable Associate Justice David Souter. Justice Souter denied the emergency stay application on Nov. 6.

Leo Donofrio renewed the application, as per Supreme Court Rule 22.4, to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas by way of Express mail on Nov. 14. The application arrived at the Supreme Court on Nov. 17 and was submitted directly to Justice Thomas.

On Nov. 19, the case was docketed for full conference of all nine Justices and scheduled for December 5, 2008. It is not known at this time the exact details of how the case came to be "DISTRIBUTED for Conference".

Background on "The Justices Conference" is discussed as follows by the Supreme Court Historical Society:

"No outsider enters the room during conference. The junior Associate Justice acts as "doorkeeper," sending for reference material, for instance, and receiving it at the door...

Five minutes before conference time, 9:30 or 10 a.m., the Justices are summoned. They exchange ritual handshakes and settle down at the long table. The Chief sits at the east end; the other Justices sit at places they have chosen in order of their seniority…

The Chief Justice opens the discussion, summarizing each case. The senior Associate Justice speaks next, and comment passes down the line. To be accepted for review, a case needs only four votes, fewer than the majority required for a decision on the case itself. Counsel for the litigants are directed to submit their printed briefs so that each Justice has a set several weeks before argument.


Remember, this from Obama's website, "Fight the Smears"

"When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children."

"Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982."

The British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.


An attorney who practices in the state and federal courts in Missouri sent [me] the following via email:

By Obama's website admitting on that he was a Kenyan citizen at birth, he in fact made an ADMISSION which is admissible in court to being a foreigner at birth. (Federal Rules of Evidence 801(d)(2): An Admission is an out-of-court statement made by a party to a case that is admissible unless the statement is irrelevant or violates another rule of evidence.)

His statement on his website is relevant to the issue of his citizenry at birth and it will not violate another rule of evidence in the federal court, especially the U. S. Supreme Court.

The person who is bringing this issue to the U. S. Supreme Court is Leo Donofrio, New Jersey Attorney. Here is a link to his blog. On November 17, 2008 at 7:46 a.m. he renewed his emergency stay application to Justice Clarence Thomas. He will likely grant it because Justice Thomas is a strict constructionist of the Constitution.

Along with Berg v. Obama et al which Justice Souter granted the writ of certiorari, these two cases along with the other 14 or so cases effectively put Obama and the DNC in a corner. Under Article III of the U. S. Constitution, the Supreme Court will have to hear the case because it is a federal question and a true case and controversy like what was heard in Marbury v. Madison in 1803.

The Founding Fathers of the U. S. Constitution were clear as to the intent of the natural born citizen clause for a Commander in Chief or President of the U.S. I will be writing an article on a blog which highlights this point but here is a preview of it:

What is fascinating is that the origins of the natural-born citizen clause can be traced to a July 25, 1787 letter from John Jay to George Washington, presiding officer of the Constitutional Convention. John Jay wrote: "Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen." There was no debate before members of the Constitutional Convention of 1787 and the natural-born citizen qualification for the office of the Presidency was introduced by the drafting Committee of Eleven, and then adopted.

The counselor added this piece of wisdom in a later message:

A good friend of mine stated to me a couple of days ago that usually the Courts are the best defense against wrong. The main reason for this is that it allows REASON and LOGIC to prevail (application of law to facts of a case/controversy after both sides have had a fair opportunity to present their sides). The Judge is required to be impartial and fair in its decision. That is one reason why the Civil Rights cases of the 1930's through the 1960's were so successful at the Supreme Court level. It went through various legal challenges at various levels, but at the end it worked out for the good/betterment of the country regardless if you agree with them.

Patience is a virtue. The pieces are coming together. One case will not be the final death knell, but an ACCUMULATIVE effect will expose those who have done a classic coup d’état. All of the cases against Obama and the DNC in some form or fashion are important because it allows STRONG EVIDENCE of fraudulent intent by Obama, the Obama Campaign, and the DNC and that is going to be needed to persuade the masses of cult like people who followed Obama unconditionally without questioning him to make sure he was valid.

Just like the Nuremburg trials against the Nazis, evidence is the key.

Eventually good will prevail over those who have done evil and wrongdoing. But, we have to put the pieces of the puzzle together to let it be so.


And, here's the latest in the New Jersey lawsuit.

On Friday Nov. 14, 2008, Leo C. Donofrio sent, by US Postal Express Mail, a letter, as required by Supreme Court Rule 22.4, to the Clerk of the United States Supreme Court -- William K. Suter -- requesting his Emergency Stay Application as to the national election by renewed to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas by right of law, specifically Supreme Court Rule 22.4.

As of 1:17 PM the renewed application has not been updated to the US Supreme Court automated Docket.

According to Supreme Court Rule 22.1, the Clerk is demanded to "transmit it promptly" to the Justice it is addressed to. Please recall that on Nov. 3rd, Donofrio originally submitted this same emergency stay application to the US Supreme Court. Despite the stay, the Clerk -- Mr. Danny Bickell -- made assurance that the application would be given to the Honorable Associate Justice David Souter that night, it was not transmitted promptly. In fact, it was not transmitted at all after Mr. Bickell, having made an illegal and improper substantive judgment of law, thereby denied the application on his own volition.

The emergency stay application was eventually submitted to the Honorable Associate Justice David Souter, four days late, on November 6, after Mr. Bickell was forced to concede that his denial had been improper.

The emergency stay application, having been brought to the US Supreme Court from a denial of the New Jersey Supreme Court, was required by Supreme Court Rule 22.3 to be submitted to Justice Souter as he is the Justice assigned to the Third Circuit which includes New Jersey. The application was denied by Justice Souter on Nov. 6, and such denial therefore triggered the legal right, under Rule 22.4 to renew the emergency stay application to "any other Justice." The application to renew has now been sent to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas.

Hopefully, this time, the emergency stay application will be promptly transmitted to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas.

The renewed application was delivered to the US Supreme Court Clerk's office at exactly 7:46 AM by US Postal Express Mail. (Click link for US Postal proof of delivery.)

Tons of documentation at this site.

Update: Donofrio's case is now on the docket for Justice Clarence Thomas.


Muckraker Andy Martin's, lawsuit went before the judge today in Hawaii.

The defendants in this case are Linda Lingle, the Governor of Hawaii, and Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health .

The statement of claim:

1. Plaintiff requested a certified copy of the birth certificate of Senator Obama from the Department of Health and tendered the requisite fee.

2. Defendants refused to provide a copy of said certificate, invoking the confidentiality statutes of the State.

3. The issue of the Senator’s birth certificate has become a controversial topic of intense national speculation.

4. As an author who strives for factual accuracy and attempts to conduct thorough research Plaintiff wants a copy of the Senator’s birth certificate attested to by the State and not a "certificate" which is posted on a web site and which has been debunked as possibly having been altered.

5. One of the more literate and temperate analyses of the unlawfulness of the Defendants’ refusal to issue certified copies of the birth certificate is contained in Exhibit 1 attached hereto.

6. To the extent that the Defendants’ files contain or retain original supporting data for the birth certificate, Plaintiff asks that he also be supplied with that information and/or material as well.

7. It is axiomatic that the birth certificate of a presidential candidate is a document of crucial public concern and significance.

8. While Hawai’i statutes call for a balancing or weighing test where production is considered by a court, most respectfully Plaintiff submits that the balance falls entirely on the side of disclosure where the original birth certificate of a presidential candidate is concerned.

Here's an update of the hearing from Martin:

"We had about a half-hour hearing. Both the Attorney General and I vigorously presented our respective positions. The Court gave no indication of when or how the ruling could come or what the result will be."

"I have ordered a transcript of the hearing and as soon as it arrives we will post it on our blogs. People should be able to read the arguments in Court. Rather than characterize what was said, I will allow everyone to review the presentation for themselves."


And, here is the .pdf file of Ambassador Alan Keyes, et al, lawsuit in California.


And, Phil Berg's Pennsylvania lawsuit is still before the Supremes.

The questions raised by Berg in the lower Court should not have been thrown out entirely based on standing alone, or by the notion that the injury to a voter is "vague," but some Judges do actually realize the question may be beyond their jurisdiction and 'ask for help' by clearly making appealable and reversible errors that a higher court can rule on. The Supreme Court Rules permit the grant of a writ of certiorari only under specific circumstances.

The questions presented for review are:

1. Whether a citizen of the United States has standing to challenge the Constitutional qualifications of a Presidential nominee under the "natural born citizen clause" [Article II of the U.S. Constitution] when deprivation of the right to such a challenge would result in the infringement of a citizen’s Constitutional right to vote?

2. Isn’t it true that no one has the responsibility to ensure a United States Presidential candidate is eligible to serve as President of the United States?

3. Are there proper steps for a voter to ensure a Presidential Candidate is qualified and eligible to serve as President of the United States?

4. Isn’t it true that there are not any checks and balances to ensure the qualifications and eligibility of a Presidential Candidate to serve as President of the United States?

The "questions presented for review" in the writ require Obama’ response. Notice that answering these questions does not require Obama to produce a birth certificate, but instead to answer why he does not have to prove himself eligible.

Although we cannot predict Obama’s answers, based on his past legal motions submitted in the lower court case, Obama may indeed respond that the writ should not be granted because (1) a citizen does not have standing, (2) that no one has responsibility to ensure eligibility, (3) that there are no proper steps for a citizen to ensure qualifications, and (4) that there are no checks and balances that exist today to ensure a candidate is qualified. Notice he is in a position of arguing technicalities here, and completely misses his own obligation to prove himself.

Although doubtful, it is also possible Obama would try to argue that the 14th Amendment says that "naturalized citizens" and "dual citizens" are "American citizens", thereby satisfying"

Anonymous said...

WADR, Hirshel, you have to read the judge's decision to realize that it was, in fact, reasonable given the circumstances.

The "smoking gun" was the presence of $20,000 in $100 bills and his children's passports in a travel bag found on execution of a search warrant at RSMR's home. That could easily be taken to show plans to run across the border to Canada (no passport needed). Couple that with his known frequent travels across the border and his now ex-employee status at Agri. and the likelihood of flight is significant.

Interesting was the discovery of a box containing a large count of $1 bills. Obviously, the search discovered his stash of Rebbe Dollars as well.

The wheels of justice turn slowly but they turn. Sometimes they turn against you. That's not anti-semitism; it's just how the system works.

Anonymous said...

Which normal settled family don't keep all the important papers stashed in 1 place in some kind of bag or carton
To me you smell from Judenrat

Arthur said...

I believe that it's abundantly clear that Shmarya Rosenberg should be arrested for his role in the INCITEMENT TO RIOT.

FM did not broadcast the audio and Shmarya Rosenberg did.

What Shmarya Rosenberg is doing is not unlike when AlQuida releases a hate filled audio or video threat, which serves as a signal to Islamics and AlQuida sleeper cells to incite hate and to lead to criminal activity and acts of violence.

Shmarya Rosenberg has absolutely nothing to do with himself all day and all night except to incite RACIAL HATRED against Religious Jews, who he disapproves of.

Every word on Shmaraya Rosenberg's blog is filled with Racial Hatred against the Religious Jews in Postvile and in other places.

This proves the point that it is Shmarya who is behind all the hatred and arousing the attempted racial violence:

Shmarya is what Jews call despicably an "INFORMANT" who's only purpose in Rosenberg's miserable pathetic life is to incite non-Jews to Racial Violence against Jews.

Anarchist Chossid said...

There is a story about the Rebbe’s teacher. Whenever he heard a bad story about a Jew — including low-life atheist communist whores, much-much worse for yidden than that little barking puddle Rosenberg, he stood up and walked out of the room.

Yes, one can get angry at Jews such as this. We must remember, however, that our prayers towards Rubashkins cannot ascend until we are whole — until even those unworthy are given our ahavas yisroel. It will take causeless love of fellow Jews to bring us to geulah.

Milhouse said...

CBT, that is all nonsense. Berg is a certifiable nutcase (he's a 9/11 troofer). The only thing that's before the Supreme Court is a cert petition. Anybody can submit one, but they're very rarely granted, and there's absolutely no indication that the Court would grant this one. And even if it were for some strange reason to grant it, it would only be on the question of standing. Berg's case was dismissed in the lower courts on the grounds that he has no standing, and that's what he's applied for cert to appeal; if his application were granted, all it would mean is that some time next year the Supreme Court would hear arguments on whether Berg had standing to challenge the election result.

If for some reason the Court decided that he did, he would then have to go back to the lower court to present his case, which would immediately be dismissed because he hasn't got one. It would be up to him to prove that Obama was born in Kenya, not up to Obama to prove that he wasn't. And his claim about Indonesian citizenship doesn't even begin, because there's nothing in the constitution preventing a president from having foreign citizenship, so long as he's a natural-born US citizen. Rahm Emmanuel is eligible to be president, Israeli passport and all. If Obama was born in the USA then the only way for him to lose his citizenship would be for him to deliberately renounce it, and as a child he was incapable of doing so. His mother certainly had no authority to renounce it for him. The ONLY qualifications to be president are to be a natural-born citizen and at least 35 years old, and not to have already served most of two terms.

Anonymous said...

Whers is the guy who beat Channa Gourary ?
Was he ever brought to justice or did he flee on the Holy Shabbath ?
How about some other Anash going to America after fleeing Israel ?
America is a malchus shel Chesed . Unless you can make a serious case that someone is singled out for indictment or punishment because of his religion , let the gentleman face a court of peers for justice.
I wonder what Rubashkin was thinking the last few years. Probably that "ich hob America in bod ".

Anonymous said...

Please verify
Whats your problem with the guy that hurt chana?
Is it because since you are a concerned citizen of the Medina shel Chesed you have sleepless nights for every nyc unsolved crime?
Or since you are from the alte chasidim(as rav Simpson and rav Levitin) and the person that was hurt was the (Real)Rebbes daughter?

Or your hangover on the Barry Gurary /Library episodes turns you beserk ?

My gut feeling is, thats is the latter of the 3 reasons

Anonymous said...

"Which normal settled family don't keep all the important papers stashed in 1 place in some kind of bag or carton"

Everyone keeps this stuff in a drawer along with house deed, loan agreements and other such critical papers. Very few keep them in a travel bag along with a "spare" 20-Grand. That is, unless they are planning a swift getaway, which was the Judge's point here. That you miss this point simply reeks of willful obtuseness.

"To me you smell from Judenrat"

Tell me, was there a flush toilet in your cell alongside the Spinka? I hope you didn't drop the soap while Bluto and Flapjack were there as well...

Anonymous said...

I dont buy all thats being said by some white trash agents in the (Medina Shel Chesed of Iowa, it was prroably in the same room.

Your bitterness and inside knowledge makes me think that you were behind bars for awhile, what exactly did you sell? weed ? hardcore?

Anonymous said...

good point but dont expect cbt to answer, he ignores posts that he cant answer

Anonymous said...

The Rubashkins stink to high heaven.

Anonymous said...

"I dont buy all thats being said by some white trash agents in the (Medina Shel Chesed of Iowa, it was prroably in the same room."

So, you'll believe other nonsense spewed by kosher "trash"? You have reliable information that what was reported by the agents was a lie? Please, enlighten us all.

"Your bitterness and inside knowledge makes me think that you were behind bars for awhile, what exactly did you sell? weed ? hardcore?"

Let's just say that RSMR's stay at Club Fed, Iowa City Chapter is not going to resemble Shpalerka in the slightest. Honestly, though, I do hope that he assembles the best legal team and beats the rap. Still, if things do not work in his favor he is not in any serious danger.