Wednesday, November 24, 2010

Yeshiva Talpios in the News

"Trailblazer" Rabbi Shimon Semp
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bpunbound said...

MItzvah Lepharseim....AND SUPPORT!!

A man that talks the talk AND walks the walk!

Anonymous said...

I think the whole concept of a dropout is a misnomer. Whenever people use the term “teens at risk,” it’s usually teens that are post-risk. They’re risked —they’re after the risk. A teen at risk is every single bachur, because he is a human being, he has a neshamah, and he feels in the deepest recesses of his soul that “I want to be something. I want to accomplish something. I want to be a Yid.”
If he’s not given those opportunities, and he’s forced into what in his eyes is a jail, and he’s forced to sit in shiurim he can’t follow, and he is not given any chance to learn the skills necessary for his achievement and his success — then he is going to feel squeezed. So he didn’t drop out — he was dropped! Nobody dealt with him. Nobody taught him.

Good line.

Anonymous said...

This Krausz guy really did a grand job. I doubt he realized how loud his speech would go.Everybody is riding on his back.

Anonymous said...

I liked the line about the "post-risk" boys as well. In today's world, all kids (and adults) are at risk.

The point about giving children responsibilities at home resonated as well. It teaches them that the world is not hefker, that there are consequences to their actions, a lesson the modern world does it's utmost to forget and erase.

On the flip side there is no greater good feeling and boost to self esteem then being useful and accomplishing. Children need that almost as much as adults do. It adds tremendous simchas hachayim and dulls the glitter of the outside world.

Kudos Rabbi Semp, and much, much hatzlacha.

fed up said...

Its all very nice but these yeshivos cost a fortune. How is it possible far a parent to pay $15,000 year tuition, when most people bareley make a living. the system its all messed up.

Isaac Balbin said...

Based on his philosophy, why is he only taking Chassidishe boys?

LikeWhatever said...

Balbin. What do u want him to take? Satmer, Litvaks, and Lubabs all together?
they will have a shaileh if to keep Yat Kislev or Chuf Alef

yyy said...

Where is this yeshivah?

Isaac Balbin said...

LikeWhatever, you clearly didn't carefully read the philosophy of the School and it's approach. There is nothing there that seemed to me that would exclude non Chassidim apart from perhaps the Yiddish amongst some.

LikeWhatever said...

The school can have whatever philosophy they want but until the parents share that philosophy they aint gonna send their kids to a out of the culture school.

and every parent is just looking out for his sons shidduch, what will they say if he learnt in a all in one yeshiva.

its not happening,

Shlomo said...

It's great that the Yiddish-speaking community can be intellectually honest enough to support this Rabbi. Too bad that he, and his litvish (read: shuir in English) counterpart are minorities.
Years ago I was in the presence of Rabbi Dovid Orlofsky and we were shmoozing about the state of American chinuch. RDO stated that America needs a "B yeshiva." The problem then, as it is now, is that people won't send their kids there. (He backed this up by a ma'asah s'hiyoh of a parent who applied to a yeshiva and admitted that her son belonged in a "lesser" yeshiva; sadly, she wouldn't send her son to one.)
This sort-of proves that the problem is caused by both the educational establishment and parents. But let's be honest; if "the educational establishment" actually supported these B yeshivos- with more than just lip-service once a yovel at a parlor meeting- our future would be much brighter. (The $64 M question: why won't they support these yeshivos? Kavod or money?)

Gershon Henoch said...

Isaac Balbin.
You are a great guy but quite naive!
You ask why this yeshiva is only for chasidim??
Let me explain to you why.At least from the American perspective. By Chasidim,besides Chabad who view everyone as a potential addition to their ana"sh list and are modern,anyone not chasidic is not (very)Jewish.If you don't walk the black clothes and talk the lingo, you are a "bad" influence".You may "contaminate" them.Kapish??
This fellow went to Shaare Arazim (check their website,quite an amazing institution)saw their great ideas, and to his credit,gives them credit and copied their methods.Building your own desk, chair, public speaking, building self confidence is all a Shaare Arazim concept.

Chasidim, at least the latter day ones, only have dress and language to differentiate themselves.They need to hang on to it.

There is absoloutely no way that the average chasidic fellow will allow his precious gems to be schooled with "moderneh".

LikeWhatever said...

"But let's be honest; if "the educational establishment" actually supported these B yeshivos- with more than just lip-service once a yovel at a parlor meeting"

ur on the mark. these yeshivos struggle to death. They dont have the resources to give massive kavod, and few ppl view it as a kavod to be honored by non-metzuyanim.

Fed up. maybe run a campaign to keep our tzedaka dollars for our kids instead of supporting every wacko tzedaka that u pay 2 pray 40 days saying perek shira on the judean hills overlooking the tomb of choni hamagal

Anonymous said...

בן כ"ק מרן אדמור שליטא
r bentzion twersky has a great article in this weeks mishpacha

Isaac Balbin said...

Thanks for the elucidation (which wasn't news to me) but my point remains that if you read this guys views and what he's trying to achieve and the nature of the boys then I don't understand why he wouldn't accept anyone "lifnei chet"

You are all looking at it from the current political landscape but he's surely broken that mold (or should it be mould :-)

Anonymous said...

Issac B
actually it says he ONLY accepts boys lifnei Hachet.

dont get it. would u want ur kid hanging out with a 'achar hachet' kid whos over-exposed?

Anonymous said...

Achar hachet, lifnei hachet,
Whatever this guy means.
Little boys don't need to be judged harshly
Adults with shmoneh begudem is a different story

מענדל said...

ר' יצחק
די חסידישע קולטור מאנט געוויסע הנהגות און א געוויסע וועלטסאנשאואונג, די זעלבע זאך איז מיט די ישיבישע-ליטווישע וועלט. די צוויי געזעלעשאפטן זיינען קעגענשטעליק איינע צום צווייטן און א תלמיד פון איין קרייז וואלט האבן אן איבעריקן איבערקומעניש צו זיך צופאסן צום צווייטן קרייז. איז טעארעטיש ביסטו גערעכט אבער פראקטיש וואלט עס ניט געארבעט.
גוט יום טוב

snag said...

Yaser keyach to R. Semp, a talented young man.

As touched on earlier, he drew on the mehalchim of certain Litvishe Yeshivas, like Shaarei Arozim, as well as the Mountaindale Yeshiva started by R. Yehudah Davis z"l, which featured some of the things mentioned, such as the bochurim taking care of their needs and not being served by hired hands all the time. In Kelm the bochurim used to sweep the place, and used to bid for the zechus to do so as well, so it is not such a modern innovation. It seems he mixed in some additional ideas as well.

He comes from a more American type background than the students, his father learned in a Litvishe Yeshiva, so what we have here basically is a fellow using Litvishe techniques to save Chassidishe youngsters.

Zeier shein!

If we keep to such an intelligent mehalech of using creative tactics from pikchim, be"H there is hope.

LW said...

Tzig posted a letter from Mitteler Rebbe recently that talks about bocherim becoming farmers... did u see it?

Reb Michael Ber Weissmandel tried to implement such an idea Yeshiva Farm Settlement. I dont know why it failed.

There should be such a program for shmoineh begadim wearers too. First thing is they should sew their own shtrukis on...

Isaac Balbin said...

My point is that if it's Lifnei HaChet, then non Chassidic boys would qualify too.

I'm being altruistic, but I thought he was as well with a new approach to education.

I fail to see how compartmentalisation in the context of his educational philosophy has a place.